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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 261 ✭✭danjokill


    PaulBrewer wrote: »
    http://www.gearslutz.com/board/tips-techniques/342843-room-analysis-primer.html

    Here's a cool post from an Ex Boarder regarding Acoustics ...

    Nice one!!! I'm doing some study in this area at the moment, thanks for the link.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,790 ✭✭✭PaulBrewer


    And I have another cooking!

    Chris from www.Munro.com is just finishing what he describes as a 'Long' email on Acoustics for our delectation.

    That's if he's still talking to me ....

    You may recall me mention he did U2's room. I just heard U2 are in Olympic studio in London mixing (apparently 4 studios!) and I was taking the pizz that they'd moved out of his room (which was just their recording room) as there was a 'horrible pinging noise'.

    He didn't catch the joke... and rang them .... Ooops:o


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,790 ✭✭✭PaulBrewer


    Yer man came good .... get yer Geeky Heads around this

    "Sound is transmitted from one room to another by airborne transmission
    (directly through a partition) and by flanking transmission (through the
    building structure). When designing a studio it is important to consider
    both of these. Sound insulation relies, predominantly, on mass. To
    achieve high levels of sound insulation you need a lot of mass
    (particularly at low frequencies). As a rule of thumb you need to double
    the mass of a single leaf partition to achieve a 6dB increase in sound
    insulation. For high levels of sound insulation this gets very heavy
    very quickly. You can increase the efficiency of a partition by using a
    number of different materials which create discontinuities in the
    acoustic impedance. This is usually done with a double leaf partition
    such as a double dense concrete block wall with a cavity between or a
    double stud wall. Care must be taken to ensure that the mass-air-mass
    resonance of the partition does not adversely affect the sound
    insulation performance and this is best done by designing the partition
    such that the mass-air-mass resonance frequency is below the frequency
    range of interest (i.e. <20Hz). However, this requires either very heavy
    partitions or very large air gaps. It is also important that there are
    no rigid connections between the two leaves, or if bracing is absolutely
    essential (wall ties for double concrete walls for example) these should
    be specified and spaced to achieve appropriate tuning.

    Flanking transmission is often underestimated. If you continually
    increase the mass of a partition you get to a point where the sound
    insulation does not improve because the flanking transmission is
    limiting the partition performance. Depending on the building
    construction this limit can be quite low. The standard 'room-in-a-room'
    design seeks to eliminate, or at least greatly reduce, flanking
    transmission, however the design of a floating studio requires great
    attention to detail.

    I always start by looking at what level of sound insulation is required
    which involves assessing source noise levels (worst case octave band
    Lfmax) and the background noise level you want to achieve in the
    adjoining rooms (generally octave band Leq NR curves). Typically in a
    high spec professional studio you would aim to keep Lfmax breakthrough
    below the target background Leq in all octave bands. That establishes
    the magnitude of sound insulation that is required - next you need to
    find out what construction will achieve this level of sound insulation
    and whether the structure of the building you are putting the studio in
    can take the additional load of this construction. It is not always
    necessary to build a floating room. If the studio is built directly off
    a good solid concrete foundation the level of flanking transmission is
    likely to be quite low. It would generally only become necessary when
    aiming to achieve very high levels of sound insulation. If a studio is
    to be built off a timber joist floor it is generally quite difficult to
    achieve very high levels of sound insulation, primarily because the
    structural capacity is often quite low so you can only add limited mass.
    The structural capacity can be increased by adding steels etc, but this
    can be disruptive and costly.

    The point of 'floating' a room is to decouple the studio from the main
    building structure in order to eliminate flanking. The main component of
    a floating room is a floating floor. This is a floor that is built on
    anti-vibration mounts such that every connection between the floated
    structure and the main building structure is resilient. This can be
    achieved with spring AV mounts, neoprene pads or (allegedly) rubber or
    neoprene sheet or mineral wool. It is vital that you know the deflection
    characteristics of the AV product you use and its load limits etc. A
    floating floor is a mass-spring system and so has a resonant frequency
    dictated by the deflection characteristics of the AV material and the
    mass of floor that rests on it. It is imperative that the system is
    designed with a resonance below the frequency range of interest
    (typically studios are designed to 10 or 11Hz). Below this resonant
    frequency structure-borne noises are amplified (so a poorly designed
    floating room can actually make sound insulation worse at certain
    frequencies). Above this frequency structure-borne sound is rejected to
    some degree. To yield good results it is important that the dead load
    (mass of the floor and any permanently installed kit) is much greater
    than the live load (people in the studio and non-permanent kit)
    otherwise the live load will over-compress the AV pads and force the
    resonant frequency higher thus compromising the performance of the
    floor.

    The walls of the studio can either be built off the floating floor (you
    will need a different type or distribution of AV material around the
    perimeter of the floor to account for the additional mass of the walls)
    or built on a separate AV system outside the floating floor. My
    preference is for the former. An isolation ceiling should either be
    supported from the floating floor using whatever structural elements are
    required, or by suspending it from the structural soffit above on
    suitable AV hangers. Again the deflection characteristics must be known
    and their spacing carefully calculated. All joints, junctions, openings
    and services penetrations should be packed tightly with mineral wool and
    sealed with silicone. As mentioned before you must ensure that the only
    connections between the studio and the existing structure are resilient.

    None of the theory or maths required to design a 'room-in-a-room' is
    particularly complicated, but it is crucial that every possible
    transmission path is identified and that appropriate steps are taken to
    mitigate against them. Some of the construction methods used when
    building studios are very different to standard building practices so it
    is worth finding a builder that fully understands what to and what not
    to do. This is much easier said than done of course...

    If anyone is interested enough to ask any questions I'll do my best to
    answer them.

    Chris Walls"


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,408 ✭✭✭studiorat


    2 excellent articles Paul.

    Good to see someone is linking to a correct room mode calculator. There was a wrong one floating around there for a while. A "+" instead of a "x" it was...

    I'm all for re-instating dan-dan if he could be bothered to come back...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,790 ✭✭✭PaulBrewer


    Cool!


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