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Public Lecture: Julian Baggini on "How to argue badly and (still) influence people"

  • 17-11-2008 11:50am
    #1
    robindch
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    British philosopher and prominent atheist Julian Baggini, is giving a public talk tomorrow evening, Tuesday 18th at 2000h, in the Gandon Suite of the Davenport Hotel, Merrion Square.

    The talk is entitled "How to argue badly and (still) influence people", and it's based upon his latest book "The Duck that Won the Lottery", in which he catalogues 100 types of bad argument and rhetorical moves. With examples, he will talk about factors common to several species of bad argument and ask how we can make ourselves more resistant to bad thinking. More at http://www.julianbaggini.com.

    This talk is a must-go for anybody interested in seeing up close the faulty logic and arguments that religious believers typically use.

    Admission to the talk is €3 for ISS members and concessions and €6 for non-members.


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  • #2
    Dades
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    Tim Robbins would love this!


  • #3
    Galvasean
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    Might take a look if I have the evening off work.


  • #4
    ChocolateSauce
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    I'll be there for 20:00! I haven't been to an ISS meeting since the World convention.


  • #5
    asdasd
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    seeing up close the faulty logic and arguments that religious believers typically use.

    Dont think the book mentions religion much. He deals with all kinds of argument.


  • #6
    Zillah
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    I won't be available until about 10. Ask him to wait til then kthnxbye.


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  • #7
    Tim Robbins
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    Dades wrote: »
    Tim Robbins would love this!
    Yes I have read five of his books and will be going. Hopefully.


  • #8
    stevejazzx
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    asdasd wrote: »
    Dont think the book mentions religion much. He deals with all kinds of argument.

    yes...and how a bad argument is a bad argument regardless of context and in particular how religous people like to adopt arguments from other areas and fit their own ideals around it.


  • #9
    studiorat
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    too late, missed...
    doh


  • #10
    Galvasean
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    I had work. Anyone go to it?


  • #11
    Zombrex
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    studiorat wrote: »
    doh

    what the fudge is up with your signature Studiorat?


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  • #12
    jtsuited
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    Wicknight wrote: »
    what the fudge is up with your signature Studiorat?

    yes i am also curious.


  • #13
    robindch
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 24,427 Mod ✭✭✭✭robindch


    studiorat wrote: »
    too late, missed... doh
    Er, your sig contains a picture of a man named Declan Ganley and an astroturfed Swiftboat organization named "Libertas", which the multimillionare Ganley owns and controls.

    Is there any specific reason for you choosing this sig?


  • #14
    ChocolateSauce
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    I don't see any sigs....come to think of it, I don't see anyone's avatars either on most computers.

    Great talk, the best one I've been to in a long time (I don't go much these days).


  • #15
    Dades
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 25,558 Mod ✭✭✭✭Dades


    robindch wrote: »
    Is there any specific reason for you choosing this sig?
    I assume it's to display his contempt for Libertas?

    Soon it'll be time for the Lisbon II thread on A&A!


  • #16
    robindch
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 24,427 Mod ✭✭✭✭robindch


    Dades wrote: »
    I assume it's to display his contempt for Libertas?
    One would hope so, but frankly, heaven (and studiorat) only know, hence my question :)
    Dades wrote: »
    Soon it'll be time for the Lisbon II thread on A&A!
    Nooooooooooo......!


  • #17
    Tim Robbins
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    Galvasean wrote: »
    I had work. Anyone go to it?
    Yeah I went. Didn't think much of it. Baggini is the opposite to Dennet. Dennet is an interesting speaker, but his books are boring. Baggini is a bit lackluster, but his books are brilliant.

    It's a difficult subject to speak about it. It's only really interesting when you get into the meaty stuff, but he was keeping it lightweight because he was afraid he was going to loose people. Me thinks.

    He also keeps saying "you know" and looks down a bit. He wouldn't have that much charisma either.

    But his books are brilliant. So read them.


  • #18
    studiorat
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,408 ✭✭✭studiorat


    jtsuited wrote: »
    yes i am also curious.


    Photo is too big...

    was a photo (fixed) of declan ganley apparently 'tis too big...


  • #19
    studiorat
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,408 ✭✭✭studiorat


    Dades wrote: »
    I assume it's to display his contempt for Libertas?

    Soon it'll be time for the Lisbon II thread on A&A!

    It says politics not facts... ho ho.. Musta got stuck there from another site or something...

    Any hooo! Lisbon ii is indeed impending. I have much semi-slanderous and potentially libelous guff at the ready and have already earned a bad rep in the cesspit that is p.ie. oh yes.


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