disposing of deer carcass

neilsbreak

Does anyone know what law (if any) exactly is broken if a hunter shoots deer and leaves it without butchering. This could become more common as fed up landowners that are suffering excessive deer damage are getting licensed and just want to control deer numbers instead of meat and trophy heads. Leave aside the obvious issues with wasting good meat and Im talking about landowners themselves that will drag the carcass to a ditch or scrub on their own lands so carcasses left on the land not a problem to them. Is this practice against the law and what law???

Deer Hunter DL

good post i offten wondered the same my self

cochineal

I don't know what the laws are but I would ask hunters to dispose of the deer carcass with a bit more care. I was walking up the hills behind powerscourt waterfall about two weeks ago and there was a deer carcass, only partially butchered, lying only a yard or two from the path. This isn't a nice thing to come across, especially if you have young kids with you who might run ahead exploring on their own. Please be more careful! Thanks.

Nic'name

It's completely unnecessary anyway. Only kill it if you've a valid reason, like needing food.

meathstevie

Beside the fact that deer control is an absolute necessity I think the find down by Powerscourt looks a lot like poachers who had to abandon their kill and leg it.

I don't see any reason why a hunter who shot a deer and dragged it down from the hillside would than abandon it for the crows and the foxes.

cochineal

I think you must be right, it definitely looked abandoned. What a waste.

jwshooter

cochineal wrote: »

I think you must be right, it definitely looked abandoned. What a waste.

you cant dump offal or a animal on to land be it game or fallen stock .that part of powers court is national park i think ,please report your find to the npws , it sounds like some one shot it and went for the handy option.

John Griffin

Consider NPWS notified on the Powerscourt animal. Was it gralloched? It's not the first in this area, I have discovered abandoned carcasses in this area before and we also caught a group of 4 poachers out on the same ground a couple of years ago. They had animals dropped all over the place and would never have been able to extract them, they were just shooting for the sake of shooting.

jwshooter

its just a pity you did not take a pic of it with your phone you could have texted it to the duty ranger ,there is little point talking about poaching if the npws get a written report with a pick,it would be easier for them to get more of a budget to tackle the problem

neilsbreak

jwshooter wrote: »

you cant dump offal or a animal on to land be it game or fallen stock . . . . . .

Anybody got answer to the original question. Is there a specific law relating to this aside from maybe littering laws? Is there Dept of Ag rules? Would they have responsibility in enforcing them, powers of entry onto lands to investigate complaints, Would Wildlife Rangers have anything to do with this?

jwshooter

neilsbreak wrote: »

Anybody got answer to the original question. Is there a specific law relating to this aside from maybe littering laws? Is there Dept of Ag rules? Would they have responsibility in enforcing them, powers of entry onto lands to investigate complaints, Would Wildlife Rangers have anything to do with this?

there is a dept of ag rule a farmer now has to pay a guy to collect his fallen stock ,by right we should have to bring the offal home when stalking .jg was telling us of a guy getting done for dumping dead deer into a water course .
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meathstevie

I honestly don't know about the exact legislation but poluting a watercourse is an offence as such. I suppose the practice of burrying offal isn't a bad idea at all. Another option is bagging and bringing it with you for disposal or cleaning out as it's excellent dog food ( The likes of heart, lung, liver stomach etc definitly are. Washing out the intestines etc mighn't be worth your while. )

fathersymes

In reality a Gralloch isn't going to last very long, corvids, foxes etc. will see to that pretty quick.

meathstevie

fathersymes wrote: »

In reality a Gralloch isn't going to last very long, corvids, foxes etc. will see to that pretty quick.

Very true, if the landowner's ok with it you might keep the vermin from the life stuff for a day or two as an added benefit you have bit of bait out to sort out a few foxes.

ianoo

well
what do ye all do with the carcass waste ie skin ,backbone and leg bones at home when you are finished butchering an animal ????

ian

Sika_Stalker

ianoo wrote: »

well
what do ye all do with the carcass waste ie skin ,backbone and leg bones at home when you are finished butchering an animal ????

ian

the dogs polish off everything for me

ianoo

well sika
skin an all ,you must have right savages altogether :D !!!

ian

neilsbreak

Right so, my rambling opinion on this from the posts so far is . . . . . .
There is some type of law under Dept of Ag for leaving animals/grallochs on lands although probably rarely enforced in relation to deer carcasses. Uncertain about who exactly investigtes and enforces this.
Anything left in such a way as to cause pollution is against the law - enforced by litter wardens, county council, fisheries? depending on the pollution/hazard.
Carcasses or grallochs left in such a way as not to be a pollution source or to be seen by walkers/other land users probably wont be a problem but may technically be breaking some Ag law, maybe, but will be a feast for corvids and foxes (and buzzards, kites and sea eagles?). Carcasses are great for feeding dogs. There is a bit of work back at home if you want to be whiter than white and dispose of your unusable material correctly (get out the shovel).

I have heard of hunters getting very upset about deer being left, but if the carcass was dragged and left out of site and not causing pollution then there would not be a problem. Would appreciate anyones advice on the Ag law to try and get a handle on this

Tackleberrywho

Boil it all up with some rolled barley, dogs will do th rest :D:D:D:D

jwshooter

neilsbreak wrote: »

Right so, my rambling opinion on this from the posts so far is . . . . . .
There is some type of law under Dept of Ag for leaving animals/grallochs on lands although probably rarely enforced in relation to deer carcasses. Uncertain about who exactly investigtes and enforces this.
Anything left in such a way as to cause pollution is against the law - enforced by litter wardens, county council, fisheries? depending on the pollution/hazard.
Carcasses or grallochs left in such a way as not to be a pollution source or to be seen by walkers/other land users probably wont be a problem but may technically be breaking some Ag law, maybe, but will be a feast for corvids and foxes (and buzzards, kites and sea eagles?). Carcasses are great for feeding dogs. There is a bit of work back at home if you want to be whiter than white and dispose of your unusable material correctly (get out the shovel).

I have heard of hunters getting very upset about deer being left, but if the carcass was dragged and left out of site and not causing pollution then there would not be a problem. Would appreciate anyones advice on the Ag law to try and get a handle on this

in wicklow there was a problem with deer been shot and left on the hill a few years back ,there was no prosecution that i know of but the guy in question had his hands slapped big time the deer had to be removed and disposed of through a knackers yard it was wicklow co council that got pissed off . i have heard of red deer been shot and left on the hill in donegal (in large numbers ) the reason given is to feed the eagles .