Rubbish coming to RTE.

darkdubh

That quiz show with the psycadelic set looks like desperate sh1te altogether.And that reality show thing with the students abroad looks like another example of barrell scraping by the national broadcaster.

Mossy Monk

Don't watch them then. I am sure there will be people who will watch.

jaykay74

Mossy Monk wrote: »

I am sure there will be people who will watch.

Yes, but only once

Pianist2891

That awful dirge "class act"? I agree - don't watch!

darkdubh

Mossy Monk wrote: »

Don't watch them then. I am sure there will be people who will watch.

I wont be,im just annoyed that theyre wasting money on this [EMAIL="cr@p"]cr@p[/EMAIL].

Princess Consuela Bananahammock

Mossy Monk wrote: »

Don't watch them then. I am sure there will be people who will watch.

Wouldn't be so sure...

eVeNtInE

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Mr E

Don't forget that excellent looking reality show "Ballet Chancers" (also starting tomorrow night).

Sunday night had reached a whole new level on RTE.

eVeNtInE

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amdublin

Colm & Jim Jim's Home Run starting on Sunday. I was at a recording of this. It's BAAAAAAAD

What was worse was that all the crew/production staff seemed to think it was great and they seemed to elongate the recording to three hours(!!!!) for our "benefit" - as if they were doing a big favour for us and were going on like we were so lucky that they were providing free "entertainment" for us on a Satuday night.

Three hours of my life I will never get back.

You have been warned!

amdublin

Colm & Jim Jim are apparently going to be on Tubridy tonight. RTE publicising one show on another show.........crazy.

Aidric

The black haired one looks like the bastard child of Mary Harney.

Echelle

my god, those two idiots are now on the ryan tubridy show, they are actually middle aged...from their awful radio show i hought they were twenty ish...that tv show they are going to host sounds like pure drivel.... god, they are worse on tv than on radio...time to reconsider not paying the tv licence ever again

Mossy Monk

amdublin wrote: »

RTE publicising one show on another show.........crazy.

That doesn't happen on the BBC or other television networks?

Leaderbored

I was at a recording of Home run too.

It's exceptionally poor. It may be saved in post production if the technical people manage to change a few things in editing, such as :

*Tone Down the lighting. At times the background was like a flippin Pink Floyd gig.
*Insert some continuity to the show, like giving it a point.
*Digitally Replace the studio audience with one who enjoyed the show.
*Digitally Replace the presenters with ones who are actually funny.
*Cutting the running time to 30 seconds.

But I doubt it. In fairness to Rté, while I wouldn't go so far as to say they're embarrassed as to how it's turned out (Like I say, I've seen it & I was embarrassed for them) but they seem to be doing their best to bury it before it's born by running it against The News, The Simpsons, Britannia High and other such ratings pushovers on other channels, so they've obviously got high hopes for it....

Pianist2891

The fat black haired one (is it Colm or Jim Jim, don't know and dont want to know) looks like the dark haired evil twin of the kid in "bad santa".

Tubridy on Pat Kenny, Gerry Ryan on Pat Kenny, Gerry Ryan on Tubridy, Seoige Sisters, sure its cheaper for RTE to just put a camera in their canteen rather than spend money making these programs!

Ballet Chancers - gotta love it, scumbag kids done good!

elshambo

RTE got a great big barrel of average TV ideas a few years ago and at the moment they are digging around in the corners with a paring knife!

Mr E wrote: »

Don't forget that excellent looking reality show "Ballet Chancers" (also starting tomorrow night).

I get the feeling this shows production team got the idea from the chewing gum advert that has been doing the rounds for a couple of years, the one with the hip hop and latin dancers.

Pianist2891 wrote: »

Ballet Chancers - gotta love it, scumbag kids done good!

An accent; a scumbag does not make, judging people based on where they grew up, now thats a different matter!:eek:

Leaderbored wrote: »

I was at a recording of Home run too.

It's exceptionally poor. It may be saved in post production if the technical people manage to change a few things in editing, such as :

*Tone Down the lighting. At times the background was like a flippin Pink Floyd gig.
*Insert some continuity to the show, like giving it a point.
*Digitally Replace the studio audience with one who enjoyed the show.
*Digitally Replace the presenters with ones who are actually funny.*Cutting the running time to 30 seconds.

NOTE To RTE types: If you want to do a TV or RADIO show that is based on comedy or humour of some kind; Hire comedians, at very least hire them as writers. The country is full of them apparently, just dont ask the RTE comedy department for advice on who to hire because they have a history of hiring the really poor ones!
To hear a funny radio show hosed by comedians check out "Adam and Joe"
on the BBC IPlayer

Shacklebolt

elshambo wrote: »

An accent; a scumbag does not make, judging people based on where they grew up, now thats a different matter!:eek:

Thats a mater for this thread http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2055419002

Frankie Lee

elshambo wrote: »

RTE got a great big barrel of average TV ideas a few years ago and at the moment they are digging around in the corners with a paring knife!


I get the feeling this shows production team got the idea from the chewing gum advert that has been doing the rounds for a couple of years, the one with the hip hop and latin dancers.


An accent; a scumbag does not make, judging people based on where they grew up, now thats a different matter!:eek:




NOTE To RTE types: If you want to do a TV or RADIO show that is based on comedy or humour of some kind; Hire comedians, at very least hire them as writers. The country is full of them apparently, just dont ask the RTE comedy department for advice on who to hire because they have a history of hiring the really poor ones!
To hear a funny radio show hosed by comedians check out "Adam and Joe"
on the BBC IPlayer

Remember Ed Byrne on "The Cassidys"

elshambo

Shacklebolt wrote: »

Thats a mater for this thread http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2055419002

No, its a matter for pretty much everyone and everything

Frankie Lee wrote: »

Remember Ed Byrne on "The Cassidys"

Confused, you saying Ed Byrne is good?

Frankie Lee

If you remember the Cassidy's you'll know that Ed Byrne was atrocious.

elshambo

Frankie Lee wrote: »

If you remember the Cassidy's you'll know that Ed Byrne was atrocious.

didnt watch the cassidy's!
Still confused; Are you saying Ed Byrne is funny? or would he be one of the unfunny ones RTE keep hiring?

Pianist2891

It was an offhand comment, a joke!!:p Of course an accent does not a scumbag make, but judging from the lame adverts, the fame hungry participants and cringe worthiness of the program itself, they are all scum!

newbie2

Ok, I'll have to set the record straight. RTÉ have very little to do with this show - apart from the fact that they let it on the airwaves. It's produced by Vision Independent Productions . They came up with the idea, ran with it and crewed it (probably crewed by one of the outside broadcast companies such as observe - as RTE have not crewed anything outside RTE studios since 2003). There were no RTE technicians at the recording or the editing of this show.
After the broadcasting (funding) act 2003. A certain % of the licence fee has to go to independent producers - like the aformentioned, for them to make exiting new TV shows. RTE is also obliged to broadcast these exiiting new TV shows. This Act was signed into law so RTE wouldn't have a monopoly on the production of TV shows in Ireland and it allowed TV3 (owned by the multinational CanWest Global Communications Corp with a assets of approx CA$6 billion ) and smaller production companies to commission TV show ideas and produce them. All with licence payers money.
Yes RTE do have questions to answer on what they allow on our TV screen, but the majority of the time they cannot control the content. They commission a productions companies show for x number of weeks and unfortunately we have to put up with it.
I just wanted to set the record straight - that RTE are not responsible for producing this sh1te.

amdublin

newbie2 wrote: »

Ok, I'll have to set the record straight. RTÉ have very little to do with this show - apart from the fact that they let it on the airwaves. It's produced by Vision Independent Productions . They came up with the idea, ran with it and crewed it (probably crewed by one of the outside broadcast companies such as observe - as RTE have not crewed anything outside RTE studios since 2003). There were no RTE technicians at the recording or the editing of this show.
After the broadcasting (funding) act 2003. A certain % of the licence fee has to go to independent producers - like the aformentioned, for them to make exiting new TV shows. RTE is also obliged to broadcast these exiiting new TV shows. This Act was signed into law so RTE wouldn't have a monopoly on the production of TV shows in Ireland and it allowed TV3 (owned by the multinational CanWest Global Communications Corp with a assets of approx CA$6 billion ) and smaller production companies to commission TV show ideas and produce them. All with licence payers money.
Yes RTE do have questions to answer on what they allow on our TV screen, but the majority of the time they cannot control the content. They commission a productions companies show for x number of weeks and unfortunately we have to put up with it.
I just wanted to set the record straight - that RTE are not responsible for producing this sh1te.

Which show?

Ballet Chancers or Colm & Jim Jims Home Rubbish?

newbie2

Jim Jims

thebman

The only shows I've watched on RTE in the past month or so are:

The news.
Prime Time
Podge and Rodge and this show has gone seriously down hill.

If we can't produce good home grown shows then why bother. Flicking through the channels, you see RTE shows and just think no thanks immediately. A lot of the time they have worse shows on than MTV at the same time and that is a fooking miracle given the crap that station pumps out. Sky 1 is endless repeats of the Simpsons so why would I watch that channel? Simple there is nothing else on that can compete with a show I've seen about 10 times over. Why the hell would anyone watch TV shows anymore?

I have pretty much given up watching TV except Heroes which I download because I don't even know what channels air it over here and it is always weeks late so why bother?

The simple facts are if I don't really watch RTE because its crap and I don't use my TV to watch TV shows then why the hell do I have to give my money to these people? I just use my TV for games really and watch Heroes on my laptop. I mostly read the news online too from google news so the above shows I do watch on RTE are only once every couple of weeks when I don't have anyting to do and I'm not in the mode to play games.

It is just ridiculous to ask people to continue paying a license fee for this crap. If we have to buy the digital boxes to receive this crap then we should have the option of not buying them and not requiring a TV license as I want out of paying this much money for zero entertainment.

newbie2

brim4brim wrote: »

The only shows I've watched on RTE in the past month or so are:

The news.
Prime Time
Podge and Rodge and this show has gone seriously down hill.

If we can't produce good home grown shows then why bother.

Jebus,
Where to begin?
The broadcasting Act 2003 states that RTE have to home produce a very large % of programming. This was done to prevent RTE using it's licence fee to buy in endless amount of AMerican tripe and having the resources to out bid other terrestrial broadcasters for TV rights of large sporting events etc.

Flicking through the channels, you see RTE shows and just think no thanks immediately. A lot of the time they have worse shows on than MTV at the same time and that is a fooking miracle given the crap that station pumps out. Sky 1 is endless repeats of the Simpsons so why would I watch that channel? Simple there is nothing else on that can compete with a show I've seen about 10 times over. Why the hell would anyone watch TV shows anymore?

MTV and Sky1 are not owned by RTE and your licence fee does not go to any of the mentioned stations. IMO they are not even TV stations - but thats an arguement for another day.

I have pretty much given up watching TV except Heroes which I download because I don't even know what channels air it over here and it is always weeks late so why bother?

BBC and channel 6 air Heroes. Downloading TV over the internet is illegal and should be discouraged

The simple facts are if I don't really watch RTE because its crap and I don't use my TV to watch TV shows then why the hell do I have to give my money to these people?

If your home has Any techology capable of recieving a TV signal the you are required, by law, to own a TV licence

I just use my TV for games really and watch Heroes on my laptop. I mostly read the news online too from google news so the above shows I do watch on RTE are only once every couple of weeks when I don't have anyting to do and I'm not in the mode to play games.

Well then you need to pay for a TV licence

It is just ridiculous to ask people to continue paying a license fee for this crap. If we have to buy the digital boxes to receive this crap then we should have the option of not buying them and not requiring a TV license as I want out of paying this much money for zero entertainment

You don't have to buy a digital box to recieve RTE television channels.
Your TV licene doesn't just pay for RTE1 and RTE2. In fact it pays for the following:
RTE1, RTE2, Radio1, LyricFM, RnaG, Support for TG4, NSO and the Sound and vision fund.
Also note that while RTE TV endeavours to entertain you - it also has a mandate to educate and inform you.

icdg

newbie2 wrote: »

Ok, I'll have to set the record straight. RTÉ have very little to do with this show - apart from the fact that they let it on the airwaves. It's produced by Vision Independent Productions . They came up with the idea, ran with it and crewed it (probably crewed by one of the outside broadcast companies such as observe - as RTE have not crewed anything outside RTE studios since 2003). There were no RTE technicians at the recording or the editing of this show.
After the broadcasting (funding) act 2003. A certain % of the licence fee has to go to independent producers - like the aformentioned, for them to make exiting new TV shows. RTE is also obliged to broadcast these exiiting new TV shows. This Act was signed into law so RTE wouldn't have a monopoly on the production of TV shows in Ireland and it allowed TV3 (owned by the multinational CanWest Global Communications Corp with a assets of approx CA$6 billion ) and smaller production companies to commission TV show ideas and produce them. All with licence payers money.
Yes RTE do have questions to answer on what they allow on our TV screen, but the majority of the time they cannot control the content. They commission a productions companies show for x number of weeks and unfortunately we have to put up with it.
I just wanted to set the record straight - that RTE are not responsible for producing this sh1te.

CanWest Global Communications does not own TV3 at present, and has not had a majority stake in the company since 2000 (when Granada bought in), or any shareholding at all since 2006. It is wholly owned by Doughty Hanson and Company.

RTÉ as commissioners of the content absolutely have a responsiblity over it. While there is the indie quota - they must commission a percentage of programmes from independent producers - no one puts a gun to their head to buy any particular programme proposal. As long as the quota is made up everyone is happy, legally speaking. But he who pays the piper calls the tune. RTÉ is funding the programme and by extension have responsiblity for its content, even if actual production is being carried out by a third party.

By your logic, Channel 4 has absolutely no responsiblity for any programme it broadcasts, its indie quota being (for all intents and purposes) 100%. The BBC and ITV both have 25% quotas.

newbie2

icdg wrote: »

CanWest Global Communications does not own TV3 at present, and has not had a majority stake in the company since 2000 (when Granada bought in), or any shareholding at all since 2006. It is wholly owned by Doughty Hanson and Company..

I stand corrected. My point here was that a certain amount of licence fee goes to TV3 through the Sound and Vision fund. Why should TV3 get any tax money when they are owned by a private company with more than 118 investments with an aggregate acquisition value in excess of €28 billion

RTÉ as commissioners of the content absolutely have a responsiblity over it.

RTE would have seen a pilot for this show and had it pitched to them by an indie company. To fill its quota - it commissions said programme on that basis. During filming/editing - it leaves the indie company to its job and then sits back and gets to witness the carnage it allows on TV.

By your logic, Channel 4 has absolutely no responsiblity for any programme it broadcasts, its indie quota being (for all intents and purposes) 100%. The BBC and ITV both have 25% quotas

A bit extreme but yes. Do you remember Brass Eye - The peadophile island one? - Channel 4 weren't held responsible for this - AN arguement in Parliament ensued - and the production comapany was ultimatly held to count.

Funny you should mention Channel 4. Do you know that Film4 get money from the licence fee via the Sond and vision fund?

thebman

newbie2 wrote: »

Jebus,
Where to begin?
The broadcasting Act 2003 states that RTE have to home produce a very large % of programming. This was done to prevent RTE using it's licence fee to buy in endless amount of AMerican tripe and having the resources to out bid other terrestrial broadcasters for TV rights of large sporting events etc.

If your home has Any techology capable of recieving a TV signal the you are required, by law, to own a TV licence

Well then you need to pay for a TV licence


You don't have to buy a digital box to recieve RTE television channels.
Your TV licene doesn't just pay for RTE1 and RTE2. In fact it pays for the following:
RTE1, RTE2, Radio1, LyricFM, RnaG, Support for TG4, NSO and the Sound and vision fund.
Also note that while RTE TV endeavours to entertain you - it also has a mandate to educate and inform you.

I know that but it still ignores the point that there is no reason to require a TV license (it isn't like a dog) except to fund the above which aren't giving value for money. They should have a separate radio license if they want to charge for radio stations but I guess that would be harder to enforce eh? A lot of people in this country don't listen to the radio at all anymore.

Of course if you were allowed buy into the bits you use, they'd get an awful lot less funding then wouldn't they?

Quite simply, we aren't getting value for money at all from RTE and ask almost anybody in the country and they'll agree. Part of it isn't their fault IMO because I don't think it is actually possible to do what RTE are trying to do.

The entire TV license system is incredibly out of date and in need of reform IMO. Most people would agree that is why so many people get annoyed about being asked to pay for a tv license.

newbie2

brim4brim wrote: »

I know that but it still ignores the point that there is no reason to require a TV license (it isn't like a dog) except to fund the above which aren't giving value for money.

That is the reason of the TV licence

They should have a separate radio license if they want to charge for radio stations but I guess that would be harder to enforce eh? A lot of people in this country don't listen to the radio at all anymore

.
a whopping 85% of the population still tune into radio every day. source: Initiative Ireland

Of course if you were allowed buy into the bits you use, they'd get an awful lot less funding then wouldn't they?

From you maybe

Quite simply, we aren't getting value for money at all from RTE and ask almost anybody in the country and they'll agree. Part of it isn't their fault IMO because I don't think it is actually possible to do what RTE are trying to do.

What are they trying to do?

The entire TV license system is incredibly out of date and in need of reform IMO. Most people would agree that is why so many people get annoyed about being asked to pay for a tv license

Because it's out of date and in need of reform? Worldwide only the USA, CAnada, iran, Andorra, Estonia, Luxembourg, Liechtenstein, Monaco and Estonia have never had a TV licence. So are the rest of the world is wrong and TV licences don't work?
IMO you talking outta you rear mate.

Mossy Monk

brim4brim wrote: »

Quite simply, we aren't getting value for money at all from RTE and ask almost anybody in the country and they'll agree.

I disagree. To all the people that watch the news, watch Fair City, tune in to Pat Kenny, watch the sports coverage etc. etc. It would seem that RTÉ do put out a lot programming that people enjoy. Just because you don't does not mean everyone does.

Elmo

I have to say the current set of RTE programmes are a dissappointment. Particularly those coming from the Entertainment section.

I can kind of forgive Colm and Jim Jim show as it is just one of those Sunday night/Saturday night family shows such as In it to win it ect on the BBC. But as usually with Comedy and Light Entertainment RTE don't do enoght of it and they also don't invest any money into either.

All of these independent productions seem to be run on a shoe string, bar the RTE documentries on after the news.

There are a few good programmes but the are few and far between.

I like the Restarant, but then I like cookery shows, but then I don't like Rachel Allen. I thought Ballet Chancers was good.

I think RTE TWO needs to stop dumming down so much. Rodge and Podge replace by a new show from the same people, the novilty of R&P wares off even if they both admit they are milking it. RTE NEWS ON TWO needs to become more like NewsNight rather then repeat of the 9OCLOCK news.

But RTE need to invest in Comedy, Entertainment and Drama. The rest of there work is fine.


As for the licence fee etc, that argument has been done to death. You know where I stand. TV3 should not be give any of it, as they only care to make a buck which is fine but not with public money. If TV3 get it then all of the Indo Radio stations all have to get it.

Cabaal

RTE have showned they care little for Irish Comedians,. at the end of the day look at the cast of Father Ted before and after Father Ted and Dara Ó Briain who has to go to the UK and get a job doing Mock the Week

RTE don't want to put any money into anybody they don't already have, case in point
- Colm & Jim Jim (already established on TV)
- Pat "The Plank" Kenny who already had Kenny Liev befiore the Late Late
and there's many many more

Quint

If RTE had a half hour slot with Caroline Morahan, Katherine Thomas, Grainne Seoige and Ursula Bracken mud/oil wrestling I'd happily pay the TV licence.

Elmo

RTE have showned they care little for Irish Comedians,. at the end of the day look at the cast of Father Ted before and after Father Ted and Dara Ó Briain who has to go to the UK and get a job doing Mock the Week

In fairness RTE did start Dara O Briain out on Echo Island and It's a family affair (who knows Colm and Jim Jim might make in the UK yet:eek:)

Indeed TG4 constantly use Fr. Jack in many of their dramas.

But its down to writers, no one in RTE or TV3 is writing anything. Both show disregard for scriptwriters and scripted shows.

But (we are all right) RTE and TV3 both need to start investing some time and energy into Light Entertainment, Comedy and Drama.

MOH

newbie2 wrote: »

After the broadcasting (funding) act 2003. A certain % of the licence fee has to go to independent producers - like the aformentioned, for them to make exiting new TV shows. RTE is also obliged to broadcast these exiiting new TV shows.
...
I just wanted to set the record straight - that RTE are not responsible for producing this sh1te.

Not sure if that's a typo or a Freudian slip - but "exiting" seems an apt description for them.
Is there something in that act preventing RTE commissioning decent programs, as opposed to rubbish?

newbie2 wrote: »

MTV and Sky1 are not owned by RTE and your licence fee does not go to any of the mentioned stations. IMO they are not even TV stations - but thats an arguement for another day.

You don't have to buy a digital box to recieve RTE television channels.
Your TV licene doesn't just pay for RTE1 and RTE2. In fact it pays for the following:
RTE1, RTE2, Radio1, LyricFM, RnaG, Support for TG4, NSO and the Sound and vision fund.
Also note that while RTE TV endeavours to entertain you - it also has a mandate to educate and inform you.

IMO it's a long time since RTE was a proper TV station, but there you go.

While you may not need a set top box now, you will when everything goes digital, which I beliebe is the point that was being made.

newbie2 wrote: »

brim4brim wrote:

to fund the above which aren't giving value for money.

That is the reason of the TV licence

Huh? The reason for the TV license is to not give value for money?

a whopping 85% of the population still tune into radio every day. source: Initiative Ireland

and do all these 85% tune into one of the three stations you say are covered by the license? If not, how is this relevant?

Because it's out of date and in need of reform? Worldwide only the USA, CAnada, iran, Andorra, Estonia, Luxembourg, Liechtenstein, Monaco and Estonia have never had a TV licence. So are the rest of the world is wrong and TV licences don't work?
IMO you talking outta you rear mate.

While you're quoting Wikipedia why not point out that Australia, Flemish Belgium, Hungary, India, Malaysia, the Netherlands. New Zealand and Portugal have abolished their licenses? Or that the UK and all of Scandinavia make do with the license only, and no advertising.

And in fact only 5% of the license goes to the Sound and Vision scheme, and only 5% of the remainder goes to TG4, leaving RTE with over 90% of it.

Quint wrote: »

If RTE had a half hour slot with Caroline Morahan, Katherine Thomas, Grainne Seoige and Ursula Bracken mud/oil wrestling I'd happily pay the TV licence.

Set up an independent production company, pitch it to RTE.

newbie2

MOH wrote: »

Not sure if that's a typo or a Freudian slip - but "exiting" seems an apt description for them.
Is there something in that act preventing RTE commissioning decent programs, as opposed to rubbish?.

Yes - the lack of talent in this country.

IMO it's a long time since RTE was a proper TV station, but there you go.
While you may not need a set top box now, you will when everything goes digital, which I beliebe is the point that was being made

.
How do you believe that was the point that was being made? The poster said the following:

It is just ridiculous to ask people to continue paying a license fee for this crap. If we have to buy the digital boxes to receive this crap then we should have the option of not buying them and not requiring a TV license as I want out of paying this much money for zero entertainment.

He did not say - "If we are going to have to buy the digital boxes...... "

Huh? The reason for the TV license is to not give value for money?

No the reason for the Licence is to part fund RTE etc. If you don't think it's value for money then that's your opinion.

and do all these 85% tune into one of the three stations you say are covered by the license? If not, how is this relevant?

Read the post again. The OP said:

A lot of people in this country don't listen to the radio at all anymore

which is krap. I was just proving him wrong.

While you're quoting Wikipedia why not point out that Australia, Flemish Belgium, Hungary, India, Malaysia, the Netherlands. New Zealand and Portugal have abolished their licenses? Or that the UK and all of Scandinavia make do with the license only, and no advertising.

If you continued reading Wikipedia you would see that:
Australia: The ABC has since then been funded by government grants, now totalling around $A800 million a year, and its own commercial activities (merchandising, overseas sale of programmes, etc.)
Flemish Blegium: The Flemish broadcaster VRT is now funded from general taxation
Hungary: funding for Magyar Televízió and Duna TV now comes from the government through taxation
India: funded by both the Government of India and advertisements.
The Netherlands: In order to pay for public television from government funds, income tax was increased
New Zealand: TV channels had become commercial revenue generators for the government with hardly any public service obligations left.
Portugal: It was replaced with direct government subsidy and advertisements. The radio licence fee is aproximately €20,52 per year (€1,71 per month).
The Uk govt revealed in 2006 that the total television licence fee revenue collected by the BBC for 2000-1 to 2004-5 was more than £13bn.

And in fact only 5% of the license goes to the Sound and Vision scheme, and only 5.9% of the remainder goes to TG4, leaving RTE with over 89.395% of it.

FYP

Elmo

Yes - the lack of talent in this country.

I don't believe this. I believe that there is plenty of talent in Ireland. You just have to look at how TG4 have provided talented actors and presenters from an even smaller pool of people. Both RTE and TV3 have chosen easy routes on most occasions rather then testing out new talent they have kept it in house or with the most popular.

For DTT you will need either a TV with a DTT receiver already installed or a STB.

[IMO]
More then likely STBs will be provided for free by Boxer the DTT pay provider. [/IMO]

http://www.bci.ie/news_information/presse.html
85% of people listen to the radio RTE Radio 1 = 23%, RTE 2FM = 17%, Today FM = 16%, NewsTalk = 6%, RTE Lyric FM = 4%, Local Radio Stations = 54%.

RTE is a public service broadcaster but it is also responsible for RTE NL, which has to cover the whole country. It receives around 3million from TG4, TV3 and Today FM. And also has contracts with mobile phone companies. I am not sure if RTENL can or could fund itself though commerical means, much of its funding comes from the Licence fee.

RTE also fund several new Digital Radio Stations and testing for both DAB and DTT.

I don't know about 5% going to TG4 directly, RTE produce an hour of TV each day for TG4 but this comes in the form of Nuacht TG4 and other current affairs programming.

As I have said this is a much greater issue then just the Licence fee it goes to the core of Irish Broadcasters commissioning of programming. There needs to be a change and that change must come in the form of dedicated development of scripted programming.

RTE, TG4 and even TV3 have all proven themselves adept at providing factual programming. However to ignore entertainment, drama and comedy will have a detramental effect on their audiences over the coming years.

Princess Consuela Bananahammock

newbie2 wrote: »

Yes - the lack of talent in this country.

Of course there's talent!! RTE just have no interest in finding/encouraging it. Oh, and Germany has TV licences as well. You're also required to pay a licence fee if you use the internet to access televised material.

newbie2

Ikky Poo2 wrote: »

You're also required to pay a licence fee if you use the internet to access televised material.

same as here

Cabaal

newbie2 wrote: »

same as here

ah I don't believe the accessing the net and mobile phones part of the law came in in Ireland in the end, so we don't have the same laws as germany in respect of this

newbie2

Ah -ok - i stand corrected - again
Although....

The legal position, according to a literal reading of a clarification requested from the Department of Communications last week, is summed up in the following six points:

1. A home computer or laptop requires a TV licence if it is connected to a TV aerial and tuner, even once.

2. A television set, without an aerial, satellite or cable connection or other means of receiving a TV signal, still requires a TV licence; it is the TV box, and not the TV connection, which invokes the licence.

3. Watching RTE live over the internet does not require a TV licence on a computer, but does need a licence if viewed on an internet-connected TV set.

4. If a laptop is connected to a working Slingbox (which relays TV and video remotely), the premises in which that laptop is used requires a TV licence.

5. Any enclosed space where a TV is used requires a TV licence including a mobile home, caravan, motorhome, van, car or even a tent.

6. WatchingTVon a mobile phone does not require a licence.

Confused? No wonder. The line between what is a television and a computer is increasingly blurred these days. If you want to watch DVDs on a nice big screen, but don’t want to pay for a licence, a large computer monitor will get you off the hook.

But if you want a new monitor for your computer and are thinking of a cheap 21-inch LCD telly - by law, you will then need an annual TV licence, regardless of the fact that the TV monitor can’t receive a signal.

nitrogen

newbie2 wrote: »

Downloading TV over the internet is illegal and should be discouraged.

Give me a break. Downloading TV programs is the equivalent of recording onto blank VHS tapes, which was also supposed to be illegal back then. Most people pay a television licence for networks that eventually air these shows.

Elmo

nitrogen wrote: »

Give me a break. Downloading TV programs is the equivalent of recording onto blank VHS tapes, which was also supposed to be illegal back then. Most people pay a television licence for networks that eventually air these shows.

It is completely different since the TV channel that you record from hold the rights to show that programme, they have paid for you to watch it on their channel. If you record it by any means it is unfortunate for them since they tend to make their money from Adverts.

Many of the people that we download from do not hold the rights for such programmes hence it is illegal.

If you are watching from an Internet On Demand service(e.g. www.tg4.tv, www.rte.ie/player, www.tv3.ie/catchup etc) then their should be no rights issues.