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Ross + Abbey & Ferrybank Shopping Center

  • 13-11-2008 5:02pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37


    There is a new shopping centre opening in early 2009 called Ross + Abbey. It is located in the Abbeylands area of Ferrybank.
    • Johnny Fans Chinese Restaurant
    • Punjab Indian Restaurant
    • Pub & Off License
    • EuroSpar
    • Gift Shop
    • Subway
    • Pizzeria
    • Pharmacy
    • Coffee Dock
    • Paddy Power
    • and much more

    http://www.bannon.ie/brochures/RossAbbey.pdf

    Mod Edit:
    Since we have a few different topics discussing two developments in Ferrybank, neither of which are in use, I have decided to merge the threads and edit the first post as a summary.

    Ross and Abbey - Small Retail Units, Abbeylands/AbbeyDrive area
    Consisting of a number of small units which were expected to open ages ago with small retailers. Its completed development and nobody has moved into the site at all.

    Ferrybank Shopping Center - Large Complex - New Ross Road
    This is basically a Kilkenny version of City Square but much bigger. Its now fully completed, but again, nobody has moved into the site at all.

    Despite many rumours in circulation from reliable sources - no retailer is expected to move into any of the above sites in the near future. Someone will update this thread probably when a retailer is actually confirmed for any of the sites via local press (rather then "reliable sources").


Comments

  • Closed Accounts Posts: 587 ✭✭✭Dum_Dum


    Ardkeen clone.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,655 ✭✭✭1966


    whats the story with other shopping centre in Ferrybank - work seems to have stopped there??


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 986 ✭✭✭Jambo


    There is a new shopping centre opening in early 2009 called Ross + Abbey. It is located in the Abbeylands area of Ferrybank.
    • Johnny Fans Chinese Restaurant
    • Punjab Indian Restaurant
    • Pub & Off License
    • EuroSpar
    • Gift Shop
    • Subway
    • Pizzeria
    • Pharmacy
    • Coffee Dock
    • Paddy Power
    • and much more
    http://www.bannon.ie/brochures/RossAbbey.pdf

    Watch out the mods ill prob be moving this as is technically a Co Kilkenny issue!!!

    At least is something gogin ahead in f-bank not like the new place sitting there


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,496 ✭✭✭JohnC.


    I love the stock photos in that PDF. Sure, don't we all go for a sunset stroll along the beach in Ferrybank.


  • Moderators, Regional South East Moderators Posts: 9,075 Mod ✭✭✭✭Aquos76


    Where did you get the list of tenants going it here from. As far as I knew, Eurospar had pulled out earlier this year.


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  • Moderators, Education Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators, Regional South East Moderators Posts: 24,056 Mod ✭✭✭✭Sully


    Aquos76 wrote: »
    Where did you get the list of tenants going it here from. As far as I knew, Eurospar had pulled out earlier this year.

    There name is on the entrance, though I head the same rumour.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 104 ✭✭Waynecarr


    Seems to be a lot of eateries, Chinese, Indian, Subway, Pizzeria and Coffee Dock to sustain


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 579 ✭✭✭edmund_f


    lot of housing estates about?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37 Cill Chainnigh


    The list of tenants is currently posted at the entrance - I'm not sure if EuroSpar is posted. I'll check the next time that I pass it.

    There are a lot of houses in the Abbeylands side of Ferrybank, but I am not sure that there is enough to sustain all the restaurants.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,272 ✭✭✭merlante


    Reading the promotional material for these suburban shopping centres technically in Co. Kilkenny is a little bit like taking a trip to the twilight zone. Waterford sounds about a hundred miles away, when it isin't even the 2 miles away the thing claims -- more like a few hundred yards to the boundary. The shaded area of Waterford is confined to the south side of the river and we are given this story of an urban area which will soon reach 10,000 in population, even by conservative estimates. What is this magical place that is increasing in population at a dramatic rate for no apparent reason? Sounds like more of this Ferrybank city propaganda.

    Still, at least this one seems about the right sort of scale for what is a growing suburb of Waterford city. The local population is only about 5,000 right now but it is growing quickly.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,893 ✭✭✭allthedoyles


    1966 wrote: »
    whats the story with other shopping centre in Ferrybank - work seems to have stopped there??

    Anyone got an update on the new Ferrybank Shopping Centre ?


  • Moderators, Education Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators, Regional South East Moderators Posts: 24,056 Mod ✭✭✭✭Sully


    Anyone got an update on the new Ferrybank Shopping Centre ?

    Its nearing completion but I dont see anybody taking up the units. It was stopped for a long time but I believe they were told to clean it up, which is what they have done.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,411 ✭✭✭SUNGOD


    i have passed there numerous times in the last few months and it has not been touched and no one is working on it.
    it looks finished on the outside but the inside is like a building site


  • Moderators, Education Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators, Regional South East Moderators Posts: 24,056 Mod ✭✭✭✭Sully


    SUNGOD wrote: »
    i have passed there numerous times in the last few months and it has not been touched and no one is working on it.
    it looks finished on the outside but the inside is like a building site

    Iv been keeping an eye on it, mainly because its an area that interests me and I have seen big changes over the last few months - at least on the outside. Even the last few days they have put up another "Ferrybank" sign on the outside (stupid name for a shopping center imo).

    I have never got the chance to walk in around, but I would have assumed thats going to remain a site until units are fitted which looks unlikely. I see the Car Park is pretty much completed though.


  • Moderators, Regional South East Moderators Posts: 9,075 Mod ✭✭✭✭Aquos76


    Right just to clarify, the actual construction of the current phase is totally finished and it is now ready to be handed over to whatever retailers are going to take up the units. It does actually look like a shopping centre now. the landscaping really finishes it off well too.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,644 ✭✭✭Asmodean


    Was just passing this the other day after not seeing it in a few months. Have to say I was very impressed. It's really after coming on.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,943 ✭✭✭abouttobebanned


    Nothing to do with the OP of course.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1 angelsavana


    It's actually TONY FANN's restaurant!


  • Moderators, Education Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators, Regional South East Moderators Posts: 24,056 Mod ✭✭✭✭Sully


    It's actually TONY FANN's restaurant!

    Sorry, what?


  • Moderators, Regional South East Moderators Posts: 9,075 Mod ✭✭✭✭Aquos76


    Sully wrote: »
    Sorry, what?

    Was thinking the very same,but then I went back through the thread and the opening post referred to
    Johnny Fans Chinese Restaurant

    so I am thinking he was just sayint that is was not Johnny Fann, but Tony Fann


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 326 ✭✭marathont


    Does anyone know when the shopping centre in ferrybank is opening, Or what shops (if any) are lined up?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 700 ✭✭✭kayaksurfbum


    Dont think it will ever open.

    I head some of the contractors who worked on it have not been paid yet!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,625 ✭✭✭wmpdd3


    Never, must be costing a bomb left there like that.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 587 ✭✭✭Dum_Dum


    wmpdd3 wrote: »
    Never, must be costing a bomb left there like that.

    Wrong place, wrong size. Knock it down, crush it into power and make the speculators and politicians eat it.


    NAMA means the government will be going out thieving the taxpayer to keep this place going until the next bubble.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,081 ✭✭✭fricatus


    Dum_Dum wrote: »
    Wrong place, wrong size. Knock it down, crush it into powder and dump it on John's Green in Kilkenny.

    Fixed that for ya... :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,126 ✭✭✭Psychedelic


    should never have been built in the first place.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,899 ✭✭✭Paddy@CIRL


    Heard recently that it ain't opening. Gutted !


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,644 ✭✭✭Asmodean


    Tis a fine centre though if it had worked out properly.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 104 ✭✭Waynecarr


    Paddy@CIRL wrote: »
    Heard recently that it ain't opening. Gutted !

    Where did you hear this


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  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 3,645 Mod ✭✭✭✭Beeker


    While on the subject of places not open......anyone know whats happening with the Waterford Business Park out by the six cross roads? It was built and has remained closed for over a year now maybe two or longer?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 827 ✭✭✭jimbojazz


    They're still trying to figure out how to turn it the right way round:)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,473 ✭✭✭robtri


    Paddy@CIRL wrote: »
    Heard recently that it ain't opening. Gutted !

    Don't believe that for a min....
    if the plan was not to open it, why are there contractors there still working on it???????

    It will open, not sure when, but it will


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 419 ✭✭beaushalloe


    fresh landscaping was done on it there last week, couple of nice mature trees planted at the front, its looking quite well for such a imposing structure. hopefully it will open, it might bring some badly need footfall around the area


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,820 ✭✭✭Bards


    it might bring some badly need footfall around the area

    I would hazard a guess that the ardkeen area is closer to the centre of town (John Roberts Square) when walking then Ferrybank Shopping centre will be. I think this centre will have a negative impact on the already dying city centre and may be the final nail in the coffin


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,943 ✭✭✭abouttobebanned


    It's open now!!!

    I just bought a box of pop tarts!!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,631 ✭✭✭marlin vs


    WHITE ELEFANT


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,899 ✭✭✭Paddy@CIRL


    It's open now!!!

    I just bought a box of pop tarts!!

    *Looks out window*

    Looks fairly closed to me ...

    There's been no work done there in quite a while, only activity is the security fencing around the entire premises.

    Don't get me wrong, I want it to open but it's starting to look less and less likely. Last I'd heard the developers were bringing Dunnes to court to get them to open the unit they had agreed to open before construction. Would be an ideal place for M&S though ...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,473 ✭✭✭robtri


    marlin vs wrote: »
    WHITE ELEFANT

    great post..... well done :confused::confused:

    would you care to share what you mean???


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,126 ✭✭✭Psychedelic


    Paddy@CIRL wrote: »
    Would be an ideal place for M&S though ...
    It would be ideal for Kilkenny Co. Council alright, as M&S would be paying them the rates instead of Waterford City Council. We need M&S in Waterford City Centre.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 986 ✭✭✭Jambo


    Paddy@CIRL wrote: »
    *Looks out window*

    Looks fairly closed to me ...

    There's been no work done there in quite a while, only activity is the security fencing around the entire premises.

    Don't get me wrong, I want it to open but it's starting to look less and less likely. Last I'd heard the developers were bringing Dunnes to court to get them to open the unit they had agreed to open before construction. Would be an ideal place for M&S though ...

    I pass it 4 or 5 times a day and there is always contractors there working , this morning they again planting more mature trees .

    I would have to agree about the M&S Comment , Yet I cannot understand why they would keep saying in the Munster Express and to Cllr Gary Wyse that they have a wish to set up a Waterford store in a yet unbuilt retail park on the ORR when such a great retail premises is sitting idle already built and in a closer proximity to the city !? the mind boggles


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,625 ✭✭✭wmpdd3


    M&S and Tesco and the like have specific layouts in all their stores that are much easier to do in a new build.

    Can't see double decker trucks delivering to Ferrybank. Don't think Dunnes use them.

    Would be a kick in the teeth is M&S got in. Would the rates def go to Kilkenny. I would have thought that any business out as far as Euro fuels would be still within Waterford boundries.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,899 ✭✭✭Paddy@CIRL


    I'm pretty certain it would go to KK, as thats where the planning permission was obtained from ?

    TBH, I couldn't give a ****e where the rates go, If Waterford City Centre falls in on itself, the City Council have no one to blame but themselves.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,305 ✭✭✭Green Hornet


    As a blow-in so to speak I'm a bit baffled to see people giving out about whether KK or Waterford get the rates. In reality the building is still part of the overall catchment area and would service the entire community? :confused:

    Not wishing to offend anybody but Waterford is only a big town and surely something like this shopping centre would enhance the shopping potential of the area and bring business into the community as a whole?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,319 ✭✭✭Trick of the Tail


    Its an awfully ugly building anyway, and in a completely inappropriate site.

    I can't imagine how it got planning permission;

    Well, actually I can, I suspect it was the Kilkenny planners 'cocking a snook' at Waterford.

    A.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 454 ✭✭Cadiz


    Is this thing open yet can anyone located in that area tell me?

    Ah. Just saw this: http://archives.tcm.ie/waterfordnews/2009/09/15/story31360.asp

    But then again
    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2055749656

    Confusedly..


  • Moderators, Education Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators, Regional South East Moderators Posts: 24,056 Mod ✭✭✭✭Sully


    I think we need a sticky on this :p

    That development is completed, but nothing has moved in. All sorts of rumours floating about so until a paper confirms a story - id dismiss what you here. :)

    This development actually is in reference to another development, down by Abbey Drive there - much smaller and same story applies. This topic kind of mixed between both. Think ill merge.


  • Moderators, Education Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators, Regional South East Moderators Posts: 24,056 Mod ✭✭✭✭Sully


    Since we have a few different topics discussing two developments in Ferrybank, neither of which are in use, I have decided to merge the threads and edit the first post as a summary.

    Ross and Abbey - Small Retail Units, Abbeylands/AbbeyDrive area
    Consisting of a number of small units which were expected to open ages ago with small retailers. Its completed development and nobody has moved into the site at all.

    Ferrybank Shopping Center - Large Complex - New Ross Road
    This is basically a Kilkenny version of City Square but much bigger. Its now fully completed, but again, nobody has moved into the site at all.

    Despite many rumours in circulation from reliable sources - no retailer is expected to move into any of the above sites in the near future. Someone will update this thread probably when a retailer is actually confirmed for any of the sites via local press (rather then "reliable sources").

    Topic Merged


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