PPP the 09 IO needs a 2500/5000 level

nicnicnic

and a 12000 starting stack as they did in Amsterdam would also be great

BigCityBanker

thanks Nicky - you should have emailed me about it.

ollyk1

nicnicnic wrote: »

and a 12000 starting stack as they did in Amsterdam would also be great

I wish I had the money so this mattered to me....Carry on.....

Anybody want to buy 75% of my action???? :D

robinblinds

But Noel, this thread is where we say "no way" and then give in with two mins to go on the 2k/4k level.

nicnicnic

look lads I'm an expert in these sort of things and have worked on numerous scenario's to improve the structure of your tournament. After many hours of work, my findings conclude that the introduction of 2500/5000 and 12k starting will mean that the average BB will not drop below 30 BBS at any stage which is the structure that such a prestigious event deserves. These massive improvements to the structure will not prolong the tournament by more then one hour with a tiny SD.

I think ppp should be very grateful that an expert such as myself has the progression of this tournament as a world class event on his agenda; as the work I have done on this would cost six figures if you were to employ consultants.

5starpool

Didn't the IO finish at around 6pm on the Monday last year too? This means that there are quite a few hours left to play with in terms of structure. Getting around the bubble even last year (after whixch I made my expreemely shortstacked exit) the average stack was not pretty even.

robinblinds

IO structure changes are a long drawn out war and not a quick skirmish.

We even threw up this when discussing the structure for 2009...

BigCityBanker

nicnicnic wrote: »

After many hours of work, my findings conclude that the introduction of 2500/5000 and 12k starting will mean that the average BB will not drop below 30 BBS at any stage

were probably never going to be able to prove it but I would wager a considerable sum against you on this point.

5starpool wrote: »

Didn't the IO finish at around 6pm on the Monday last year too? This means that there are quite a few hours left to play with in terms of structure. Getting around the bubble even last year (after whixch I made my expreemely shortstacked exit) the average stack was not pretty even.

I could show you hours of research I have here on tournament structures and one thing remains constant and that is the average stack will hit its lowest point during serious inflection points of the event. i.e. the various bubbles - the end of play on day 1, first money bubble, significant money bubbles, final table bubble etc.

nicnicnic

BigCityBanker wrote: »

were probably never going to be able to prove it but I would wager a considerable sum against you on this point.

I will not be having any prop bets with you because a herd you use underhanded tactics.

BigCityBanker wrote: »

I could show you hours of research I have here on tournament structures and one thing remains constant and that is the average stack will hit its lowest point during serious inflection points of the event. i.e. the various bubbles - the end of play on day 1, first money bubble, significant money bubbles, final table bubble etc.

Macau festival this year never dropped below 60 bbs before FT and hit its low point at 37 BBs with 7 left.

BigCityBanker

nicnicnic wrote: »

I will not be having any prop bets with you because a herd you use underhanded tactics.
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yeah, il give you my old mans number in advance so you can ring him and tell on me.

nicnicnic wrote: »

Macau festival this year never dropped below 60 bbs before FT and hit its low point at 37 BBs with 7 left.

that was not 10k/60mins. it wasnt even 12k/60mins inc2500/5000. If you want to compare then start by comparing like with like.

nicnicnic

I'm just trying to help you out here, your structure is substandard pls improve it. compare like with like hmm well let me see there both poker tournaments that punters pay a lot of money to enter; now to contrast one has come up with a fantastic structure and caters for its customers, the players needs, the other is concerned with promoting the brand to unsophisticated potential customers with little consideration to the people that support there tournament.

JP Poker

Please don't take me wrong here Noel because I think PPP are doing great things for Irish Poker, but I do think the structure could be improved.

If a €550 buy in game can have 15k starting chips and extra levels surely the Irish Open at €3500 can aswell!

Also I think the side games can be improved, alot of my players didn't play the IWF because they thought the structures of the side events were really bad and these aren't your normal pub players that only play small buy-in games.

Approx 50 of us travelled to Killaraney last month, Only 3 of them played any of the events in City West and they all live in the area.

Just me 2 cent.

pete1234

BigCityBanker wrote: »

that was not 10k/60mins. it wasnt even 12k/60mins inc2500/5000. If you want to compare then start by comparing like with like.

i think it was 15k/ 75 mins not 100 % sure tho