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A mess, or art? Opinions please

  • 11-11-2008 10:39pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,344 ✭✭✭


    I quite like this pic, but I'm not sure if the electricity pylons make it "art" or if it's just a big industrial mess. Or are industrial messes art these days? :)

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,699 ✭✭✭ThOnda


    Subject of the picture is irrelevant. The final product is what could be called art. And here we are again, I cannot wait to read all the posts here tomorrow :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,344 ✭✭✭Thoie


    Ooops. um, is it too late to change my mind about asking the question then?

    How about the alternative question of "would this look better with or without the pylons?" :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,368 ✭✭✭Covey


    Mess - definitely not.

    Art - well eye of the beholder stuff really.

    But nice shot and pylons are essential imo. Nothing worse than a sunset full stop to induce the boredom :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 762 ✭✭✭Buzz Lightyear


    I have to say the pylons actually add to the content of the picture and help to give an otherwise standard sunset (although it is lovley) a sense of industrial interjection. My only reservation about the picture is actually the offending lamposts which IMO intrude into your industrial landscape as an eyesore. Its only my opinion, but I'd try to PS them out.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 430 ✭✭moralproduction


    i like it


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,344 ✭✭✭Thoie


    I have to say the pylons actually add to the content of the picture and help to give an otherwise standard sunset (although it is lovley) a sense of industrial interjection. My only reservation about the picture is actually the offending lamposts which IMO intrude into your industrial landscape as an eyesore. Its only my opinion, but I'd try to PS them out.

    Just for you I'm going to sit up all night taking them out pixel by pixel. Well, for at least another 5 minutes while the bed warms up :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 817 ✭✭✭YogiBear


    Electric! :D I like it, honestly. I don't see them as ugly at any rate, composition is good, colours are good. :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,344 ✭✭✭Thoie


    Here we go - version 2, without the lamps

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 817 ✭✭✭YogiBear


    Better without the lights imo.. Less is more...... more defined.. or.. more oomphy! :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 762 ✭✭✭Buzz Lightyear


    I'm impressed. 31 minutes from my post to bada bing. Rock on sheila (Thoie):D:D

    Much better IMO. The only other thing I'd do is to add a bit of exposure to the lower cloud area on the horizon This would then lead your eye through the silouhetted trees and pylons and into the sunset.

    Nice shot and well captured.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,368 ✭✭✭Covey


    Better with imo.

    Reflects the reality (not as taken but as most of us see it) and adds a sense of conflict.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,344 ✭✭✭Thoie


    I'm impressed. 31 minutes from my post to bada bing. Rock on sheila (Thoie):D:D

    Much better IMO. The only other thing I'd do is to add a bit of exposure to the lower cloud area on the horizon This would then lead your eye through the silouhetted trees and pylons and into the sunset.

    Nice shot and well captured.

    Ah jaysus, can I not go to bed yet?

    (And it was only 14 minutes from when I read your post to when the new version went up :P)

    Need to get up tomorrow and dangle from the ceiling for a while, so will have another go at this tomorrow afternoon.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,046 ✭✭✭democrates


    I like it.
    Against the red sky the single lamp post in particular reminded me of the original (superior imo) movie:
    H.G.Wells wrote:
    No one would have believed, in the early years of the 21st century, that our world was being watched by intelligences greater than our own; that as men busied themselves about their various concerns, they observed and studied, the way a man with a microscope might scrutinize the creatures that swarm and multiply in a drop of water. With infinite complacency, men went to and fro about the globe, confident of our empire over this world. Yet across the gulf of space, intellects vast and cool and unsympathetic regarded our planet with envious eyes...and slowly, and surely, drew their plans against us.
    I'd sooner hang that on my wall than "white on white" with all due respect to Malevich.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 50 ✭✭indieJones


    Much better with the pylons.

    Sunsets happen on a daily basis but the pylons give the photo meaning. What that meaning is, is open to artistic interpretation. In this case it could be conflict between man and nature or could be beautiful co-existence between the two (or something else entirely).

    IMO it's ambiguous in your photo but an interesting exercise might be to think about how you could reshoot it to make lean towards a particular message. For example to make it a conflict photo you could do a worms eye view of the pylon domineering over dark brooding sky or for a co-exhistence shot maybe have a gentle pink/purple sunset with a birds perched on the wires.

    anyway, we all have different approaches, I like to think like this because I still have lots to learn technically so it's easier to think in terms of composition and message than it is settings on the camera.


  • Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators, Regional South East Moderators Posts: 28,536 Mod ✭✭✭✭Cabaal


    I like it, industrial feel to it


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,699 ✭✭✭ThOnda


    The contrast of the nature and man-made extremely technical object is the tension that keeps interest in the picture.
    And yes, I have technical education with lots of experience with transport of electricity, therefore I HAVE to love that picture even if I didn't like the picture :D


  • Moderators, Education Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 10,686 Mod ✭✭✭✭melekalikimaka


    i think its neither better with or without. its how to caputure 'what is' that makes the photo


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 24,144 Mod ✭✭✭✭robinph


    I prefer without the lampposts, dunno why though, they just looked wrong.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,344 ✭✭✭Thoie


    ThOnda wrote: »
    therefore I HAVE to love that picture even if I didn't like the picture :D


    Don't suppose that means you have to love it enough to pay €5,000,000,000,000 for it? :)

    Go on then, I'll give you a copy of the RAW if you want to mess around it with yourself - a very small thank you for pulling together the yearbook. PM me if you'd like it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,344 ✭✭✭Thoie


    Right, here's V3, but I think I made a hames of it. V2 is more real in my opinion.

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,942 ✭✭✭Danbo!


    Version 1 is best in my opinion, two is good, and three not really happening for me


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,699 ✭✭✭ThOnda


    Thank you, but I have to reject your offer. My computer has never had a RAW file inside and I wouldn't like to spoil it :pac:


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