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Waterford Tornado
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08-11-2008 5:25pm#1
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KhanTheMan wrote: »
Indeed
Of course we might - a bit sensationalist if you ask me - Daily Express type of article.
Still bucketing here - 9.4mm so far this afternoon - heavy not torrential.
I see some sferics showing up on the south coast atm.0 -
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Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 17,721 Mod ✭✭✭✭ Join Date:Posts: 17495
Bottom line for families with damaged houses, doesn't matter whether it was tornado or straight winds. Also nothing mini about something causing damage and being a threat to life.
You know what I meant! I wasn't for one minute lessening or dismissing the impact of the weather and the terrible effect it can have on peoples homes and lives - I was just commenting on the way the weather is classified andreported in the media sort of following on from my earlier post, that's all.
Anyhow 4.4c here atm in a very cold nw wind.0 -
Most of these posts moved from Current weather conditions thread.
Keeping with meteorology for a minute as is the nature of this forum, was this a spinning vortex/tuba extending from the base of a cloud yesterday? More than likely not but unless we have several eye witnesses we will never know for sure. Glued to my screen(radar and sat pics) watching the front as it moved across the country and no signs of Cb build up microbursts or even downdrafts. Strong wind shear with strong SE or southerly winds off a frictionless sea with high gusts and squalls would be my best guess (maybe a funnel was sighted somewhere in the country yesterday), enough to rip tiles up and knock small trees down. Clonee Jan 2005 experience similar.
Does the media blow/hype all weather events using over exaggerated terms out of proportion to the lay person, always.
Is this still dangerous to families or innocent bystanders, of course. To be hit by a flying tile will leave a lasting impression for sure and the damage it has and would do to someones property. Acts of god are not covered by insurance and good time of the year people have to fork out to cover the cost of the damage themselves just before Christmas in this unsure economic climate.
If for what ever reason some post offends you in any way, report it and we will do deal with it. No point in you or others expressing a personal opinion to him/her also. We will ask the poster to retract or edit their post.
I got no reported posts to anything here.0 -
Most of these posts moved from Current weather conditions thread.
Keeping with meteorology for a minute as is the nature of this forum, was this a spinning vortex/tuba extending from the base of a cloud yesterday? More than likely not but unless we have several eye witnesses we will never know for sure. Glued to my screen(radar and sat pics) watching the front as it moved across the country and no signs of Cb build up microbursts or even downdrafts. Strong wind shear with strong SE or southerly winds off a frictionless sea with high gusts and squalls would be my best guess (maybe a funnel was sighted somewhere in the country yesterday), enough to rip tiles up and knock small trees down. Clonee Jan 2005 experience similar.
Does the media blow/hype all weather events using over exaggerated terms out of proportion to the lay person, always.
Is this still dangerous to families or innocent bystanders, of course. To be hit by a flying tile will leave a lasting impression for sure and the damage it has and would do to someones property. Acts of god are not covered by insurance and good time of the year people have to fork out to cover the cost of the damage themselves just before Christmas in this unsure economic climate.
If for what ever reason some post offends you in any way, report it and we will do deal with it. No point in you or others expressing a personal opinion to him/her also. We will ask the poster to retract or edit their post.
I got no reported posts to anything here.
I believe that such damage would be covered as "Storm Damage". I don't think Acts Of God applies to weather related damage any more0 -
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Unfortunately it does, heard a story before of a chimney on a townhouse in Dublin city crumbles onto a roof of a car both companies claimed that an 'Act of God' is not covered under the policy of the house and car during a wind storm a couple of years back.I believe that such damage would be covered as "Storm Damage". I don't think Acts Of God applies to weather related damage any more
Agree. Acts of God they are not to you and me or most people but just how many insurance companies would class it as that?Tornadoes in Ireland are not 'Acts of God'. Such a defence by insurance companies to avoid payouts is unsustainable legally, although some try it as a first reaction. In this case there are some big questions as to whether this was really a tornado. If anyone has hard information please send it on to the tornado researcher at U.C.C. at j.tyrrell@ucc.ie .
How many touchdowns in Ireland is unknown with a small portion of this only witnessed or even documented.
Just how many sightings does TORRO receive from eye witness and the hard evidence to back this up per year in Ireland?
Is there a location/area in this country that have the majority of tornadoes that have been recorded?
Is this area documented as having the severest and most converging winds eg: N Midlands or are they very sporadic across the island resulting from the strongest thunderstorms with lots of low and deep level shear?
Is this info available to the general public and also reported to Met E and TORRO?
also does TORRO still look for a yearly subscription to join got the member form a few years back but never followed it up? 0 -
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Ok, must be some insurance companies that have seen the light. I wonder if the residents of Ringsend where so lucky in the end in the floods earlier this decade.
Docarch know's of someone who also recently had a house struck by lightning, was that covered by insurance too.
Is it only certain companies that cover this? Mine doesn't and is up at the start of next month. Looking at the policy now and there is no storm damage cover or even in the small print. In fact no policy i ever had had a storm damage type on it.
Had a few in my time and house and building/contents are insured of decent sized sums.
My renewal now has an update on it--> (Escape of Water) now excludes damage to walls, ceilings and tiles and this is an update.:eek: Shop around again, i will enquire about storm damage and whats classified of an Act of God.
What if some weather event where to happen, i think unlikely i'm covered.:(
Is there only certain weather events that are covered by 'Storm damage' or are all that can affect the building covered internally and externally? 0 -
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Ah another example of how just reading text can be misunderstood. You know what I meant! I wasn't for one minute lessening or dismissing the impact of the weather and the terrible effect it can have on peoples homes and lives - I was just commenting on the way the weather is classified andreported in the media sort of following on from my earlier post, that's all.
Sorry, I was agreeing and emphasising a tangent point and you're right about "You know what I meant!"0 -
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