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US Episode 4.09 - Greatness Achieved - [Spoilers]

  • 04-11-2008 12:21pm
    #1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,588 ✭✭✭


    The General is on the move. He wants Scylla moved, and much quicker than the three days Lisa is suggesting. But all this could be avoided if Wyatt would "take care of" Scofield & Co. Where is the very big galoot, anyway?
    Shackled in a cage, being stared at with daggers by Mahone, while Sara tries to get him talking (all the while shrugging off his attempts at Hippocratic Oath-themed psychobabble). Oh, he chats a bit. But not much. Yet still enough for Self to cobble together a dummy "message" from Wyatt to his boss, claiming that "They're all dead." And the General buys it. Ha. Cue Mahone and his request for some quality time with the man who shot his son -- not once, but twice, and with five torturous inhumane minutes in between. First, Alex physically taints Wyatt. Then he makes him call Pam to say, "I'm sorry." And then Mahone takes his prey for a long walk off a short pier, plunging him into the drink in the midst of some "We are more alike than you know" nonsense.
    And just like that, the outlook for Bailey's marriage on Grey's improves.
    All along, Michael, Linc, Sucre and Bellick are spelunking in the catacombs between GATE and Scylla, knowing that according to the "bird map," something will get in their way. That obstacle turns out to be no less than a 36,000 gallon/second water main. As my sons' book goes, "We can't go over it. We can't go under it. We have to go through it." Through a water main?? But how? "Simply" power it down (accomplished with merely come cable clips, an aerosol can and a lighter). Then, blow-torch a hole through each side of the pipe, and thread a smaller pipe through.
    Easy, sure. But not when Michael starts getting wonky from his suspected tumor. Luckily, Sucre steps in. Even more luckily, he can eyeball and chalk a perfect circle on the opposite side of the one Michael cut.
    Meanwhile, Gretchen breaches the General's office and pulls a gun on him, clearing the room. The Gen, however, has some sort of hold on Gretch, and pulls her into a smooch. Wha?! It is then inferred that Gretchen's daughter... is his?
    She wants in on his team, provided she sits at his right hand in Laos.

    Back underground, the pipe is almost fed through, affording the boys a tunnel through the water main. But when the interior brace snaps, Bellick takes it upon himself to stay inside the main and hoist it up. Sure, his death was a bit telegraphed throughout the hour — with all the misty talk of his dad and what not — but it still was a moment, as he truly took one for the team. The significance was not lost, especially on Mahone.

    http://www.tvguide.com/Episode-Recaps/Prison-Break/Greatness-Achieved-Bellick-35281.aspx?imw=Y

    RIP Brad Bellick :(

    Verdict on Greatness Achieved 41 votes

    Greatness Achieved
    0% 0 votes
    Goodness Achieved
    58% 24 votes
    Averageness Achieved
    26% 11 votes
    Mehness Achieved
    12% 5 votes
    Crapness Achieved
    2% 1 vote


Comments

  • Closed Accounts Posts: 28,128 ✭✭✭✭Mossy Monk


    No poll?

    For shame.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,620 ✭✭✭Rick_


    Disgraceful.... You should have at least put it in spoiler tags, I thought this was the discussion thread for the next episode.... Ah well, just a pity I saw the last line for a split second when I was scrolling down quickly to avoid seeing anything... There's that ruined for me. :(


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 28,128 ✭✭✭✭Mossy Monk


    It says spoilers in the thread title.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,058 ✭✭✭Unearthly


    Great episode

    Loved the scenes with Mahone and Wyatt

    and even though Bellick annoyed me last few seasons cause I believed he was pointless, his death was sad:(


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,503 ✭✭✭✭Also Starring LeVar Burton


    Noooooooooo. Not Bellick.
    Why couldn't it have been Linc?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 28,128 ✭✭✭✭Mossy Monk


    I was glad to see Brad die. He has added nothing in 2 seasons.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,620 ✭✭✭Rick_


    So, what is Gretchens game then? Is this part of her plan or is she really gone back to the Company? Didn't think much of that kiss...

    Is that Wyatt gone too, or will he be back, remember, if you don't see them die on screen... yadaa yadda yadda!

    Poor old Bellick... At least he died doing something right for a change.

    Is Michael gonna keep getting worse... what fate is in store for him? Shock twist ending? Could they even get away with that?

    Great episode, I'd give it 9/10, if there was a poll that is!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,956 ✭✭✭✭MisterAnarchy


    Very good episode,the last 4 have been high quality after a suspect start to the season.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,033 ✭✭✭Slippin Jimmy


    Noooooooooo. Not Bellick.
    Why couldn't it have been Linc?

    Ah now you shouldn't say things that you don't mean :). Wonder what the chances are that he is still alive? Remember when Kellerman was shot in the back of the prison van, some people thought that he might still be alive. Im actually really sad to see Bellick go, always liked his character. What away to go :eek:


  • Site Banned Posts: 5,676 ✭✭✭jayteecork


    Great episode.

    Scenes with Mahone and Wyatt were out of the top drawer.

    I was expecting the writers to "cop out" and let Wyatt break up and a struggle would ensue.

    But no, Mahone tortured and finished him off without a hitch!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,720 ✭✭✭Hal1


    Yea, didn't expect to see Wyatt meet his demise, was waiting for him to break the restraint's they had on his wrists. Ah well tis looking mighty interesting.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,728 ✭✭✭dazftw


    Duffff-Man wrote: »
    Wonder what the chances are that he is still alive?

    Check the fox site for the prison break videos hes gone :(

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,906 ✭✭✭J-blk


    Loved Mahone getting his revenge, top stuff. I'd say Wyatt is most definitely gone and so is Bellick, which indeed was obvious from the beginning of the episode... Why is the team breaking into Scylla though? Aren't they still missing one of the cards? They failed to get the General's right? Or am I missing something?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 55,571 ✭✭✭✭Mr E


    Poll Added.

    For JP Liz - please post your own review in future, and don't copy and paste the review from TV Guide uncredited.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,727 ✭✭✭✭Sherifu


    It was another EPIC episode.

    I knew as soon as Bellick took Michael's place he was a goner after all his talk about doing nothing with his life. Bellick didn't do anything for the past two seasons really as Mossy Monk has said but he was still a likable character.

    Gretchen's after something from the General, possibly his card or something else they need. Very interesting scenes anyway.

    I can see one or more of Sucre/Michael/T-Bag/Gretchen not making it to the end of the season.

    The scene's with Wyatt and Mahone were great, what a great way to torture someone and dispose of them.

    This show is hitting top gear again. Hopefully there aren't too many more breaks in the schedule.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,984 ✭✭✭✭Lump


    Great episode I think too. Sorry to see Brad go, but he didn't really contribute much. I think Gretchen is working with the others and using her relationship with the general to gain more info about the location and if it's moving. I hope Sucre doesn't die too soon, I quite like him as a character. Also Mahone murdering Wyatt was great TV :) Glad it ended as abuptly as it did I tihnk it would have been bad writing to let him excape or get the upper hand.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,713 ✭✭✭✭jor el


    Sherifu wrote: »
    Gretchen's after something from the General, possibly his card or something else they need. Very interesting scenes anyway.
    Lump wrote: »
    I think Gretchen is working with the others and using her relationship with the general to gain more info about the location and if it's moving.

    I don't think Gretchen is fully appraised of what's happening, there was a genuine look of surprise on her face when the General told her that Linc and Michael were dead. I think she's running her own game, outside of the plans that the rest, including T-Bag, have.

    Now, what exactly she is up to, is still a mystery. Maybe she wants to take over the company, replacing the general. That's my bet anyway.

    Poor Brad, but what a way to go, and Wyatt too, a deserved ending. Loved the way Mahone just pushed him in without even waiting to see what he was going to say, beyond "we're the same". So that's two great scenes, plus the torturing of Wyatt, in this episode, a marked improvement on the start of the season.

    First episode this year, that I didn't think was crap.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,081 ✭✭✭ziedth


    I thought it was right out of the top drawer, As mentioned Bellicks Death and The scene with Mahone and Wyatt where class

    but special mention must goto the scene with Sarah and Wyatt, When he was talking to her and she was acting like she cared and you thought she was going to let him go I was actually saying to my other half who stupid it would be if she saved him after they killed her farther etc. And for a min there I thought she was I got a right kick out of that it was getting him to say what they needed for the Phonecall. Really, Top Stuff!!

    I'd give it a 9/10 highest since the second season.


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators, Regional Midwest Moderators Posts: 24,028 Mod ✭✭✭✭Clareman


    Great episode I thought, really moved things along nicely. Was I the only 1 that noticed that everytime that the General said "My Girl" that Gretchen kind of glossed over?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 508 ✭✭✭itsjaybud


    Great episode, Mahone your the man!:D

    That was a pretty sick torture, the needle driven up poor ole wyatts finger ouch, i could feel that one myself!:D

    would have still preferred for Wyatt to get a trusty bullet or two to the back of the head before he fell into the water, just to be sure to be sure!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,367 ✭✭✭Agamemnon


    Top-notch stuff, very funny to see Mahone shoving Wyatt into the drink before he could finish his speech. I knew Bellick was dead as soon as he started waffling about having done nothing with his life. But I did a little puke in my mouth when Gretchen snogged the General. FFS, woman, you can do a lot better than that.


  • Site Banned Posts: 5,676 ✭✭✭jayteecork


    Agamemnon wrote: »
    But I did a little puke in my mouth when Gretchen snogged the General. FFS, woman, you can do a lot better than that.

    Gretchen's just playing him.

    I was watching Jericho there and General Jonathan Krantz popped up in the first episode as the sheriff!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,367 ✭✭✭Agamemnon


    jayteecork wrote: »
    Gretchen's just playing him.
    I hope so because my heart will break otherwise. :(


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,271 ✭✭✭irish_bob


    fantastic eppisode and the violence was very real


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 29,473 ✭✭✭✭Our man in Havana


    Excellent stuff this week. The show has really redeemed itself since the ropey start to the season.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,646 ✭✭✭cooker3


    Very good episode. Comfortably the best episode in this season and season 3.
    Like Mossy I am glad Bellick is gone, he did nothing. He went out well, good end to the his character.

    Very surprised Wyatt died, I thought he was there for the whole season. I really liked the torture scene, no holding back. He got wht he wanted and disposed of him.

    No idea what Gretchen is up to but I will enjoy watching her do it.

    Hopefully this pace keeps up for the rest of the season


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,114 ✭✭✭lukin


    Lump wrote: »
    Great episode I think too. Sorry to see Brad go, but he didn't really contribute much. I think Gretchen is working with the others and using her relationship with the general to gain more info about the location and if it's moving. I hope Sucre doesn't die too soon, I quite like him as a character. Also Mahone murdering Wyatt was great TV :) Glad it ended as abuptly as it did I tihnk it would have been bad writing to let him excape or get the upper hand.

    Yeah, totally agree. I was afraid they were going to do that when the camera zoomed in on his wrists trying to get free. The part where Mahone pushed that needle under his fingernail, yeuurgh, I squirmed!
    I really loved the way Mahone just nonchalantly pushed him into the water like that. He's definitely gone, he dropped like a stone with his hands cuffed to that cavity block. I'm sure Mahone waited around for a few minutes before leaving anyway!
    Great scene when Wyatt said sorry to Mahone's wife and they showed the picture of their son.
    Sad to see Bellick go, I know he wasn't contributing anything to this series but still, neither is Sucre but they won't kill him off 'cause he's Michael's buddy.
    It would have been nice for Bellick to be re-united with his mom at the end of the series, sniff...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,263 ✭✭✭✭Eoin


    My favourite episode of Season 4, but unfortunately there has not been much competition for me. It was nice to have an episode without asian computer guy saying something, and Linc telling him to shut up with an angry expression.

    I was also waiting for Wyatt to escape, especially as there seemed to be a good few close ups of his arms being tied to the chair. Glad to see the writers went through with it - I had lost all respect for them after bringing Sarah back (and sorry, she is not that hot). Also liked how Sarah didn't argue when Self said to go for a walk so Mahone could kill Wyatt.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,620 ✭✭✭Rick_


    Anyone who hasn't seen this yet and are watching it on RTÉ TWO tonight are in for a great episode!


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,269 ✭✭✭cabrwab


    Really enjoyed this episode, getting back on track closer to season1 that is for sure! Funny how much the writers strike has F*ck up shows were they need to repair the damage done!

    I thought for a minute suchre was going to get it in the tunnel of water, was still sad to watch moany belleck go! You'll still miss his stupidity, was glad the asian computer nerd is gone was not missed in this episode at all.

    Wondering will gretchen spill the beans since she thinks everyone else is dead.
    I figure she is going to get the final card somehow.

    Just understand why RTE showed this a week later to sky, yeah yeah champions league, but could they not have put it one another night, like weds night.

    Anway great episode worth the wait


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,542 ✭✭✭glenjamin


    cabrwab wrote: »
    Just understand why RTE showed this a week later to sky, yeah yeah champions league, but could they not have put it one another night, like weds night.

    Champs league is on Wednesday night too. Agree that they still should have shown it on a different night though, maybe Monday, taking up Lost's space until its back.

    Anyway I thought the episode was class. Seemed like they actually put some thought into it for once. Was really thinking that Wyatt was gonna hit Mahone with the block and a fight would break out. Thank god it didn't. Fantastic writing with Mahone pushing him in the water whilst Wyatt was trying to give a speech. The camera shots afterwards were top drawer also.

    Poor ole Bellick. Hero way to die I supose. T-Bag's starting to drive me mad aswell. Its like he's lost something about him (and I don't mean his hand!).

    Can't wait 'till the next episode!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,325 ✭✭✭Q_Ball


    Duffff-Man wrote: »
    Im actually really sad to see Bellick go, always liked his character. What away to go :eek:

    Water way to go eh? :pac:

    I was sorry to see him go too. he went from someone I disliked (the way the viewer was supposed to) in season one to pathetic in season 3 to bumbling idiot in season 4.
    itsjaybud wrote: »
    That was a pretty sick torture, the needle driven up poor ole wyatts finger ouch, i could feel that one myself!:D

    I was delighted to see some really dark scenes in PB, especially since that was what we were told we'd be getting all of season 3!
    itsjaybud wrote: »
    would have still preferred for Wyatt to get a trusty bullet or two to the back of the head before he fell into the water, just to be sure to be sure!

    If they were going that way I'd have prefered one in the stomach first, just as he starts his speech, then dump him in when he tries it again. It was really well done, glad there was no speech. Mahone knew exactly who he was, he didn't need wyatt telling him.
    glenjamin wrote: »
    T-Bag's starting to drive me mad aswell. Its like he's lost something about him (and I don't mean his hand!).

    He was always one of my favourites simply because he was an intelligent manipulative psychopathic monster. Recently though, he's been made into more of a pawn and it doesn't really suit him not to be pulling any strings. I think they've kind of made him out to be a bit desperate. Convincing his boss that the missing guy was money laundering was classic T-Bag.

    Last two episodes have ended kind of anti-climatically in that they've ended with a full stop and not edge-of-your-seat stuff. Its good, feels like a releif almost :)

    God I wish Michael wasn't sick though, the convenient timing of his illness is ruining parts of it for me :(


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,396 ✭✭✭✭kaimera


    playing catch up.

    awesome ep...specially from Mahone.

    shame bellick...


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