Irish slaves

thejamescaird

Hey guys does anyone know of the English making slaves of the Irish in the west indies during the 1600s.
I was reading on another forum about this and how it was huge business, I couldn't believe it.. Also they said that they used to make black slaves breed with irish slave women.
Anyone have any info on this?

Saruman

google "irish slaves" interesting reading!

Fratton Fred

there is another thread on this subject already.

you may want to go into great detail in your research, because like most things around that time there is a huge difference in the numbers that it involved.

some historians report that it was an early form of deportation and affected mainly "Criminals" and others will tell you the Irish were herded up like sheep and sent to the Caribbean. I guess the truth is somewhere in between as usual.

Fratton Fred

Saruman wrote: »

google "irish slaves" interesting reading!

No, google white slaves instead. if you just look for Irish slaves you get completely the wrong impression of what was going on. for example
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/arts/main.jhtml?xml=/arts/2007/05/03/bojor28.xml

cherrypicker555

thejamescaird wrote: »

Hey guys does anyone know of the English making slaves of the Irish in the west indies during the 1600s.
I was reading on another forum about this and how it was huge business, I couldn't believe it.. Also they said that they used to make black slaves breed with irish slave women.
Anyone have any info on this?

The English were also used as "slaves", nothing unique here.

Pgibson

Interesting Algerian slave raid on Baltimore,Co. Cork on 30th June 1631:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sack_of_Baltimore

These were the feared "Barbary Pirates" who attacked even remote arctic Iceland three years earlier.
Reversing the Viking tradition:

http://waterfire.fas.is/Iceland/Sagaislands.php


Quote:
"Important Milestones in the History of Iceland

On 16th of July 1627, 300 Algerian pirates attacked Vestmannaeyjar. The pirates spent three nights there. They captured people, tied them on their hands and feet, killed the ones who fought back and went after the people who had fled to the mountains. They captured 234 people and brought them to Algeria, they killed 36 people but 200 people were able to hide. This was a very tragic event in the history of Vestmannaeyjar and of course also for all Iceland. Later other pirates attacked other places in Iceland."

(Pirates are nowadays called "Bank Managers" in Iceland.)

See also:

http://lexicorient.com/e.o/barbary_pirates.htm




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Pgibson

English slaves being sold to Ireland mentioned here:

http://www.regia.org/earner.htm
Quote:
"In England, one major 'export centre' was Bristol, little more than a village until the late 10th century. William of Malmesbury says that Bristol was a long-standing market: slaves were brought from all over England for eventual sale to Ireland. 'You might well groan to see then long rows of young men and maidens whose beauty and youth might move the pity of the savage, bound together with cords, and brought to market to be sold,' he wrote. Corbridge, in the north, was another market referred to in some documents."

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merrionsq

Irish slaves ended up in Montserrat in the Caribbean, and had a hard time there.

But before we all start crying into our beer, its worth remembering that Irish people ended up as Plantation and slave owners there. And treated their African slaves with great cruelty.

There were a number of failed slave revolts which were put down with the usual cruelty.
http://www.latinamericanstudies.org/slavery/montserrat.htm

thejamescaird

thanks for those links everyone