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The answer to drink problems everywhere

  • 29-10-2008 10:47am
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,269 ✭✭✭


    From Irish Independent:


    SPORTING cups could have holes drilled in them to prevent teams taking a victory drink out of their prize.

    The HSE and Guinness-sponsored GAA feel the tradition encourages binge drinking and the unmeasured consumption of alcohol.

    The organisations have joined forces to fight alcohol abuse with an Alcohol and Substance Abuse Prevention (ASAP) programme.

    And GAA officials in Kerry are considering their own plan to drill a hole in the vase of winning cups to deter alcoholic victory celebrations.

    A spokesman for the GAA, which enjoys a controversial €1.5m hurling sponsorship deal with Guinness, said there had already been congress motions that cups should not be filled with alcohol after a victory.

    The ASAP programme aims to develop a structure of people throughout the country with specific roles at club, county and provincial levels.

    To date, four provincial officers and 32 county officers have been appointed to implement the programme. Over 900 club officers have also been appointed to assist county officers in responding to drug and alcohol related issues.

    Brian Sugrue, the honorary ASAP county officer in Kerry, said the main objective was to make clubs aware of who to turn to when they recognise a problem. The practice of filling winning cups with alcohol had to be stamped out, he added.

    Drilling

    While not an official plan, the GAA in Kerry is looking at ways of doing this, including the possibility of drilling a hole in the bottom of the cup.

    Mr Sugrue said the programme was not anti-alcohol, but against the abuse of alcohol. Clubs were also asked to not serve alcohol when medals were given out.

    "We are also asking that presentations not be done in bars, and that there is no alcohol-related sponsorship of underage events," Mr Sugrue said.

    Brendan Murphy, National Coordinator of the ASAP programme, said: "We're not looking for people to become experts overnight in dealing with drug and alcohol problems, but we are looking for people who are interested in doing something positive to prevent these problems from spreading.''

    "Research shows us that involvement in sport is a preventative factor when it comes to young people taking drugs," he added.

    David Lane, co-ordinator of drug & alcohol services for the HSE South said: "A lot of people aren't aware of the dangers associated with the misuse of drugs and alcohol."

    - Michelle McDonagh and Anne Lucey


Comments

  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,532 ✭✭✭✭Quazzie


    Plugs FTW


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 16,661 CMod ✭✭✭✭faceman


    yeah that will stop them drinking


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,457 ✭✭✭giggsy664


    Its a tradition ffs.

    Why should you stop something that has been done for 120 years or so because it's unhealthy???

    You don't have to drink out of it if you don't want to, so why prevent everyone from doing it....


    Meh 2 cents


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,840 ✭✭✭Trev M


    This is all too much ... I cant recall when I started to notice exactly but slowly and surely I've became aware that morons are taking over the planet....I only hope the lizards reveal themselves to us before the plot is completely lost


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,193 ✭✭✭Turd Ferguson


    Just when you thought the government couldnt get any stupider....


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,119 ✭✭✭Wagon


    Unbelieveable. People have actually started to mate with brussel sprouts :(


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,931 ✭✭✭Prof.Badass


    Just when you thought the government couldnt get any stupider....

    fail. this is to do with the HSE and the GAA, it has nothing to do with the government.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,193 ✭✭✭Turd Ferguson


    vinylmesh wrote: »
    fail. this is to do with the HSE and the GAA, it has nothing to do with the government.


    HSE = Government?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,931 ✭✭✭Prof.Badass


    HSE = Government?

    well obviously they're part of the establishment and are thus untrustworthy. but i didn't think they were democratically elected. I know Harney is health minister, but i don't think this was actually discussed by government, just by some self-righteous paternalistic health freaks. Maybe they're appointed by government (i know nothing about the HSE tbh) but surely that still doesn't actually make them part of the government does it?

    I just kind of assumed they were the same as civil servants.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,844 ✭✭✭Honey-ec


    Isn't this news something like 6 months old?


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,193 ✭✭✭Turd Ferguson


    vinylmesh wrote: »
    well obviously they're part of the establishment and are thus untrustworthy. but i didn't think they were democratically elected. I know Harney is health minister, but i don't think this was actually discussed by government, just by some self-righteous paternalistic health freaks. Maybe they're appointed by government (i know nothing about the HSE tbh) but surely that still doesn't actually make them part of the government does it?

    Are civil servants in considered part of the government?


    Its a grey area, give me that


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,909 ✭✭✭✭Wertz


    Fix the f*cking hospitals you bunch of pen pushing oxygen thieves and quit with the lame headline grabbing PR/PC bullsh*t that isn't an issue in anyone's minds but your own.
    Morons.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,371 ✭✭✭✭Zillah


    We should drill holes in Mary Harney.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,532 ✭✭✭✭Quazzie


    Zillah wrote: »
    We should drill holes in Mary Harney.
    No way am I drinking outta that furry cup!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 950 ✭✭✭EamonnKeane


    they should paint the inside with lead, that'll learn those kilkenny bastards


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,269 ✭✭✭kc66


    Honey-ec wrote: »
    Isn't this news something like 6 months old?

    Its on todays paper.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,193 ✭✭✭Turd Ferguson


    No way am I drinking outta that furry cup!

    I bet she hides cheesburgers in there


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,985 ✭✭✭✭zAbbo


    Simple answer, ban or reduce alcohol advertising, good article on youth alcohol and advertising here (PDF)


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,193 ✭✭✭Turd Ferguson


    zAbbo wrote: »
    Simple answer, ban or reduce alcohol advertising, good article on youth alcohol and advertising here (PDF)


    56 pages....your 'avin a laff?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,789 ✭✭✭✭ScumLord


    Are athletes really the problem drinkers in this country? I think if you put a hole in the bottom of the cup it'll just encourage them to drink faster.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 118 ✭✭Oshare Bones


    kc66 wrote: »
    From Irish Independent:


    SPORTING cups could have holes drilled in them to prevent teams taking a victory drink out of their prize.

    The HSE and Guinness-sponsored GAA feel the tradition encourages binge drinking and the unmeasured consumption of alcohol.

    The organisations have joined forces to fight alcohol abuse with an Alcohol and Substance Abuse Prevention (ASAP) programme.

    And GAA officials in Kerry are considering their own plan to drill a hole in the vase of winning cups to deter alcoholic victory celebrations.

    A spokesman for the GAA, which enjoys a controversial €1.5m hurling sponsorship deal with Guinness, said there had already been congress motions that cups should not be filled with alcohol after a victory.

    The ASAP programme aims to develop a structure of people throughout the country with specific roles at club, county and provincial levels.

    To date, four provincial officers and 32 county officers have been appointed to implement the programme. Over 900 club officers have also been appointed to assist county officers in responding to drug and alcohol related issues.

    Brian Sugrue, the honorary ASAP county officer in Kerry, said the main objective was to make clubs aware of who to turn to when they recognise a problem. The practice of filling winning cups with alcohol had to be stamped out, he added.

    Drilling

    While not an official plan, the GAA in Kerry is looking at ways of doing this, including the possibility of drilling a hole in the bottom of the cup.

    Mr Sugrue said the programme was not anti-alcohol, but against the abuse of alcohol. Clubs were also asked to not serve alcohol when medals were given out.

    "We are also asking that presentations not be done in bars, and that there is no alcohol-related sponsorship of underage events," Mr Sugrue said.

    Brendan Murphy, National Coordinator of the ASAP programme, said: "We're not looking for people to become experts overnight in dealing with drug and alcohol problems, but we are looking for people who are interested in doing something positive to prevent these problems from spreading.''

    "Research shows us that involvement in sport is a preventative factor when it comes to young people taking drugs," he added.

    David Lane, co-ordinator of drug & alcohol services for the HSE South said: "A lot of people aren't aware of the dangers associated with the misuse of drugs and alcohol."

    - Michelle McDonagh and Anne Lucey

    Well holey god.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,931 ✭✭✭Prof.Badass


    Shotgunning the cup!

    You won't even be able to pace yourself, you'lll have to drink it as it comes out of the whole, otherwise it spills all over the ground and everyone calls you a pussy.

    love it. A measure designed to stop people from drinking irresponsible actually has the opposite effect :pac:!

    that'll teach them to meddle in other peoples affairs.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,300 ✭✭✭nice1franko


    ScumLord wrote: »
    Are athletes really the problem drinkers in this country? I think if you put a hole in the bottom of the cup it'll just encourage them to drink faster.

    :D it'll be like one of those college parties you see in the films... CHUG! CHUG! CHUG! :pac: :pac: :pac:

    The boys in the HSE must be really stuck for something to do... either that, or with all the bad press they and the other civil servants have been getting, they've decided to actually do something to justify their jobs and this is the best they could come up with.

    the fukin dirty, lazy, civil servant, taxi-driving, tax-evading, yore-ma riding, litter bug, fordiners


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,717 ✭✭✭Nehaxak


    I can't believe the GAA only get 1.5M from Guinness :eek:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,789 ✭✭✭✭ScumLord


    Nehaxak wrote: »
    I can't believe the GAA only get 1.5M from Guinness :eek:
    1.5 million is allot of cans.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,368 ✭✭✭Smart Bug


    If they put a hole in the cup, doesn't it become one great big funnel?!! Good times to be had by all!!!


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