was out for clays this morning

ronn

Went up to pc quad in newtown this morning, 1st time on a proper shoothing range great set up and very friendly staff n reasonable priced i think 50 clays 50 cartridges e31, Instructor was very helpfull,

I was using an aya side by side gun most people use over and under.Whats the difference i hit more clays than my 2 mates who were using o/u,

Bananaman

Ronn,

Good to hear you had a good mornings shooting.

Different people have different preferences for U/O or side by side. The U/O you get for clay shooting tend to be heavier which soaks up more recoil.

Assuming you and your mates were of equal expereince you can put it down to a lot of factors - most likely you did what you were told and did not "assume" anything.
You'd be surprised how many people will not heed the advice of people who have the experience to give it.

B'Man

IRLConor

Bananaman wrote: »

Assuming you and your mates were of equal expereince you can put it down to a lot of factors - most likely you did what you were told and did not "assume" anything.
You'd be surprised how many people will not heed the advice of people who have the experience to give it.

+1 although heeding the advice can be harder than you think.

After years of giving out about people not listening to me in DURC I saw the other side of the coin when shooting clays in Courtlough. I was determined to take on board the guidance being given but kept screwing up in the same ways. I guess some of my shooting habits are more ingrained than I thought.

It wasn't me!

Hehe, rifle shooters: "must wait for target to stop moving, then shoot"

To the OP, side by sides are considered a little harder to control in recoil than over/unders, and since they're lighter, they hurt more after a session of shooting.

Ultimately, if you can shoot with it, it works, and if you can't, it doesn't.

gameshotpro

With a over and under you will find that most people will fire the bottom barrell first. This is because it is more in line with their shoulder and so the recoil is coming straight back rather than pushing the gun up. This is important when shooting at double targets or if you miss with the first shot, because it wont take as long to get your sight back on the target.

You will find that with a side x side that both barrells are above your shoulder line, so no matter what barrell you fire first it will want to kick the gun up, meaning it will take longer to find the target again for the second shot.

But as ive said time and time before, and you will find it all over this website, it doesnt matter what kind of gun you shoot as long as you can hit with it.

Happy shootin:)

ronn

so ya reckon i stick to the old farmers gun.if your not in you cant win

Sparks

It wasn't me! wrote: »

Hehe, rifle shooters: "must wait for target to stop moving, then shoot"

Seen it done - one of our better shooters on a DURC clay day constantly waited for the clay to get 50m away from him before shooting "because I'm used to that distance"

IRLConor wrote: »

After years of giving out about people not listening to me in DURC I saw the other side of the coin when shooting clays in Courtlough. I was determined to take on board the guidance being given but kept screwing up in the same ways. I guess some of my shooting habits are more ingrained than I thought.

I think you've just forgotten how hard it is to learn a physical skill from scratch I was trying to explain this to one of the new DURC shooters this week - shooting's a physical skill, so it doesn't matter how smart you are, you just can't out-think the learning process, which seems to fustrate a lot of the college newbies, who think that if they're smart enough, they can learn physical skills much faster (to be fair, that's how it works in everything else they do in college, where smarter = less time spent learning stuff). Used to see that a fair bit in the aikido club as well back in those prehistoric days when I was an undergrad. Some things you just have to do in order to learn how to do them.

Mind you, with a bit of brainpower devoted to the task, it does get easier to both learn and teach it; just never easy

It wasn't me!

Heh, not the tactically best idea in the world, but 50 metre clays are definitely hittable. Given our range though, would have thought he'd be trying to whack them at 25 yards.

Agreed on the learning of skills though. I went to the Vintage Classic shoot in Midlands a while back and brought a friend who'd never shot before. I tried to give him a couple of bits of information to help him shoot, very basic but key stuff to get him on target, but I'd say it was only sinking in what everything did by the time he finished shooting.

pullandbang

ronn wrote: »

so ya reckon i stick to the old farmers gun.if your not in you cant win

Not if you are going to make it a regular event. You'll end up with a bruised shoulder.

Keep the farmers gun for the farm and get a clay gun for the clays.

Bananaman

Bananaman wrote: »

Ronn,

Good to hear you had a good mornings shooting.

+1 Nothing like a good mornings target shooting!

Bananaman wrote: »

Assuming you and your mates were of equal expereince you can put it down to a lot of factors - most likely you did what you were told and did not "assume" anything.
You'd be surprised how many people will not heed the advice of people who have the experience to give it.

B'Man

Again, +1.
It never fails to amaze me how many people won't listen to good advice and make the most basic of mistakes again and again.