Ryan Shoots Down Shane Ross Broadband Bill

Sponge Bob

Ryan stood up on his hind legs in the Seanad last night and called for the bill to be defeated. Sadly it was (

The Bill in question was published by Shane Ross early this year and discussed in this forum at the time ( with link to bill) .

It was a simple piece of legislation designed to stop bull****ters like Ryan from destroying the country.

Ryan went ahead and peddled all the usual lies we epect of him

The debate starts here ( half way down )

http://debates.oireachtas.ie/DDebate.aspx?F=SEN20081022.xml&Node=H6&Page=11

The Senators who voted against our having proper broadband , some of whom also spoke against it are as follows:

Boyle, Dan.
Brady, Martin.
Butler, Larry.
Callely, Ivor.
Carty, John.
Cassidy, Donie.
Corrigan, Maria.
Daly, Mark.
de Búrca, Déirdre.
Ellis, John.
Feeney, Geraldine.
Glynn, Camillus.
Hanafin, John.
Leyden, Terry.
MacSharry, Marc.
McDonald, Lisa.
Ó Domhnaill, Brian.
Ó Murchú, Labhrás.
O’Brien, Francis.
O’Donovan, Denis
O’Malley, Fiona.
O’Sullivan, Ned.
Ormonde, Ann.
Phelan, Kieran.
Walsh, Jim.
White, Mary M.
Wilson, Diarmuid.



The ones who spoke against Shane ( apart from Ryan) are

Jim Walsh,

"I have every confidence in the Minister’s grasp of his brief, particularly with regard to broadband."

Dan Boyle , ( Dan got the tongue really well in there )

"The Minister for Communications, Energy and Natural Resources is sufficiently energised in pointing his Department in the right direction in fulfilling this policy goal. He has enough commitment and knowledge of the subject to ensure the goals are met.

"It is not facetious to say that he knows in computing terms the plural of “mouse” is “mouses”.

He is the one Cabinet member with a knowledge of how particular technology choices in this area work."

It would be singularly unwarranted were I to observe after that comment that Dan Boyle is anything other than a complete gob****e of the highest order

John Carty

"OECD broadband indicators define broadband as starting at 256 kbps, which is well below 2 mbps.

This definition boosts figures for countries with lower speeds, leaving countries such as Ireland with higher speeds at a disadvantage.

Representations have been made to the EU and will be reflected in future broadband performance indicators, a new measurement recently devised by the European Commission."

Does he know that mobile broadband which is included in government figures is sub 245k a lot of the time and with 3 that would be all the time . Probably, but he certainly does not care

Ivor Callely , Ivor should stick to decorating

" Anybody with responsibility cannot simply accept a proposal without being satisfied such targets could be met. "

If there are no targets there will be no responsibility Ivor. That is teh FF way as you well know

Their email addresses are:

eamon.ryan@oireachtas.ie

and the rest from here

http://www.oireachtas.ie/viewdoc.asp?DocID=10033&CatID=138

Dan.Boyle@oireachtas.ie,

Paul.Bradford@oireachtas.ie,

Martin.Brady@oireachtas.ie

Paddy.Burke@oireachtas.ie,

Larry.Butler@oireachtas.ie,

Jerry.Buttimer@oireachtas.ie,

Peter.Callanan@oireachtas.ie

Ivor.Callely@oireachtas.ie

Ciaran.Cannon@oireachtas.ie

John.Carty@oireachtas.ie

Donie.Cassidy@oireachtas.ie

Paudie.Coffey@oireachtas.ie,

Paul.Coghlan@oireachtas.ie,

Maria.Corrigan@oireachtas.ie,

Maurice.Cummins@oireachtas.ie,

Mark.Daly@oireachtas.ie,

Deirdre.DeBurca@oireachtas.ie,

Paschal.Donohoe@oireachtas.ie,

Pearse.Doherty@oireachtas.ie,

John.Ellis@oireachtas.ie,

Geraldine.Feeney@oireachtas.ie,

Frances.Fitzgerald@oireachtas.ie,

Camillus.Glynn@oireachtas.ie,

John.Hanafin@oireachtas.ie,

Dominic.Hannigan@oireachtas.ie,

Eoghan.Harris@oireachtas.ie,

Fidelma.Healy.Eames@oireachtas.ie,

Cecilia.Keaveney@oireachtas.ie,

Alan.Kelly@oireachtas.ie,

Tony.Kett@oireachtas.ie,

Terry.Leyden@oireachtas.ie,

Marc.MacSharry@oireachtas.ie,

Michael.McCarthy@oireachtas.ie,

Lisa.McDonald@oireachtas.ie,

Nicky.McFadden@oireachtas.ie,

PAT.MOYLAN@oireachtas.ie,

Ronan.Mullen@oireachtas.ie,

David.Norris@oireachtas.ie,

Labhras.OMurchu@oireachtas.ie,

Francis.OBrien@oireachtas.ie,

Brian.ODomhnaill@oireachtas.ie,

Denis.ODonovan@oireachtas.ie,

Fiona.OMalley@oireachtas.ie,

Joe.OReilly@oireachtas.ie,

Ann.Ormonde@oireachtas.ie,

Ned.OSullivan@oireachtas.ie,

jotoole@oireachtas.ie,

Kieran.Phelan@oireachtas.ie,

JohnPaul.Phelan@oireachtas.ie,

Phil.Prendergast@oireachtas.ie,

Feargal.Quinn@oireachtas.ie,

Eugene.Regan@oireachtas.ie,

Shane.Ross@oireachtas.ie

Brendan.Ryan@oireachtas.ie,

Liam.Twomey@oireachtas.ie,

Jim.Walsh@oireachtas.ie,

MaryM.White@oireachtas.ie,

Diarmuid.Wilson@oireachtas.ie,

DMC

Sadly, as a lone independent, and being in the seanad, the only thing Shane Ross can pass is wind.

clohamon

DMC wrote: »

Sadly, as a lone independent, and being in the seanad, the only thing Shane Ross can pass is wind.

He caused Eamon Ryan a bit of discomfort on Morning Ireland just now.

DMC

Shane Ross can nail someone down on the radio, or be lively in the debate, or use his Sunday Independent platform to talk about issues in business, but in the Senate as an independent, its a fairly lonely place.

Independent TD's or councillors have more power than independent senators.

Its a shame, as Muck said, his proposals have great merit.

bealtine

Sponge Bob wrote: »

Ryan stood up on his hind legs in the Seanad last night and called for the bill to be defeated. Sadly it was (

Ryan went ahead and peddled all the usual lies we epect of him

"I have every confidence in the Minister’s grasp of his brief, particularly with regard to broadband."[/I]

Dan Boyle , ( Dan got the tongue really well in there )

Well well well the greens show their true colours, a disgusting shade of greed and a despicable shade of brown. The country will show their gratitude to the greens at the next election. This kind of nonsense will be well rewarded and thankfully they will disappear just like their erstwhile colleagues the now defunct PDs. Good riddance to them and their utterly corrupt policies (the greens that is).

The minister has morphed into the most heinous of politicians: an FF minister
with all the expected platitudes.

Most Irish people have no confidence whatsoever in the ministers grasp on anything, expect to hold onto their jobs at all costs.

I, for one, look forward to the total electoral annihilation of the greens.

Sponge Bob

Big LOLs at Damien lifting the original post in this thread .

http://www.mulley.net/2008/10/29/dan-boyle-hmmmm/

Next time you do a driveby please give us the line failure stats we aked for