Live CCTV trial on London buses is now given the go ahead.

Run_to_da_hills

Live CCTV goes on trial on a number of busses in a north London route. Real-time images are beamed to a control room manned by Transport for London the metropolitan police. The trial will be monitored to determine whether live images can help transport staff and police deal with disorder more effectively. The trial was shelved last November but was given the go ahead again this month.

The System uses the 3G network which can also provides a free on board WIFI service to the passengers. We will know soon enough if Dublin Bus, Irish Rail and the Dart opts for this system if they start to offer us “free” on board WIFI but with the state of the economy and Government spending I would say that we are a long way off having it here.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/england/london/7678855.stm

murphaph

Interesting but wouldn't it be British Transport Police who'd be involved as opposed to the Met?

They have hundreds of dedicated police officers just for London buses....we have nothing in comparison. We are miles off. If we had this system there'd be nobody to respond anyway!

Run_to_da_hills

murphaph wrote: »

Interesting but wouldn't it be British Transport Police who'd be involved as opposed to the Met?

They have hundreds of dedicated police officers just for London buses....we have nothing in comparison. We are miles off. If we had this system there'd be nobody to respond anyway!

The six months trial period is costing £150,000, the cost to instal the whole fleet would be in the region of £20million and that is not covering surveylance costs.

There are 1,200 officers alone dedicated to policing the bus network costing 70 million a year, That's probably more than the number of drivers in the Dublin bus fleet :eek:

RobertFoster

Run_to_da_hills wrote: »

There are 1,200 officers alone dedicated to policing the bus network costing 70 million a year, That's probably more than the number of drivers in the Dublin bus fleet :eek:

There's over 600 drivers operating out of the Phibsboro' (largest) garage alone, so you're a little off there

Run_to_da_hills

RobertFoster wrote: »

There's over 600 drivers operating out of the Phibsboro' (largest) garage alone, so you're a little off there

I was going by the fleet size and not taking shift into consideration, :rolleyes:

They prob have well over 2000.

AlekSmart

One can see where this is going for sure..!!

The current situation regarding the carry-on in and around UCD Belfield and other nearby attractions should be concentrating minds.
However,as one side appears to believe its all a bit of youthful hi-jinks which therefore should be endured by everybody else then poor oul Dublin Bus is being placed in the role of old misery guts.

What nobody wants to say is that the problems have been allowed to develop into a very real public order situation which has the capability to result in fatalities.

The decking of a Dublin Bus Chief Inspector last week appears to have forced Dublin Bus management into some form of action,what with the net asset value of a Chief Inspector far outstripping that of a grumpy ol Driver...

It`s worth pointing out that the London Bus situation is indeed the perogative of the Metropolitain Police who through their Transport Operational Command Units (TOCU) have scored some notable successes in thwarting small to mid range criminal activity on Buses.

The remit of the British Transport Police is largely confined to the Railways although they can make an appearance on buses,especially if these are on Rail Replacement services.

Transport for London (TfL) have also recently introduced draconian (By Irish Standards) restrictions on the carrying of alcohol on or about ALL public transport in London.
We in Dublin don`t actually require any more leglislation as the current Dublin Bus by-laws are fully capable of being used to put an end to the rampage of the over-educated Jinnets who are so confident of their own right to impose their "Hi-Spirits" on everybody else.

All we require in Dublin is some Leadership in the form of a person who puts the telescope to their GOOD eye rather than their Blind one !!! :eek:

Run_to_da_hills

AlekSmart wrote: »

Transport for London (TfL) have also recently introduced draconian (By Irish Standards) restrictions on the carrying of alcohol on or about ALL public transport in London.

Transport for London is draconian by Global standards. They have gone so far overboard with CCTV's, Smart cards and ridiculous by laws thats its now becoming beyond a joke. Its also a model that other systems try to copy.

I could possibly see DB installing this system on a pilot basis in a few troubled routes. They would have to first ban the hoodie.

lostexpectation

sounds expensive

Run_to_da_hills

lostexpectation wrote: »

sounds expensive

They don't necessarily need to have in on everywhere simultaneously and they could also run it through an existing security network at a depot or Garda Station.

The driver could activate a panic button that would alert the depot and foreword on the live footage or it could be activated automatically through smoke alarms, passenger panic buttons, interference with emergency exits, excessive noise etc. Most of the CCTV layout is already in place on Dublin Bus. There would also be privacy concerns about such a system.