How is he allowed to stay?

Tipsy Mac

This really gets on my nerves, perhaps someone could make a mistake once, perhaps twice, but to have at one stage 51 live charges in the state and be allowed stay, must think we are ****ing gombeen idiots :mad:

A 15-year-old thief, who stole €200 from a woman as she was making a withdrawal from an ATM on Dublin’s Grafton Street, received a six-month suspended sentence at the Children’s Court today.

The boy, who is originally from Romania, admitted the theft, which occurred on January 6 last.

Judge Bryan Smyth was told that the teenager and another person approached a woman who had been withdrawing money.

“They surrounded her and a sum of €200 was withdrawn from her account,” said garda Gavin Reilly of Harcourt Terrace station.

Garda O’Reilly said the teenager already had 10 convictions – nine of them were for thefts.

Defence solicitor Mr John Quinn said the teenager had brought €200 to court as compensation which was then handed over.

Mr Quinn said the boy, who was accompanied to court by his mother, hoped to begin a training course and he asked the judge to take into consideration his client’s guilty plea.

Judge Smyth imposed a six-month sentence but suspended it on condition the teenager was of good behaviour and did not re-offend within 12 months.

In May, the boy had been given a six-month suspended sentence for a spate of slick ATM scams where five men each had €200 stolen from under their noses.

The court had heard then that the teen had brought money to court to compensate his victims and had been co-operating with the Probation Service to address his offending.

The court had also been told he had enrolled in a school and was attending literacy classes.

Armed with a newspaper, using sleight of hand and by distracting his victims, the boy repeatedly stole money at bank machines.

On that occasion he had pleaded guilty to five counts of theft of €200 from men at bank machines, on Dublin’s O’Connell Street, on separate dates in January and February last.

He also admitted attempted theft of €200 from a man at an ATM on Dublin’s Westmoreland Street, on December 31 last.

A garda had said during one of the boy’s earlier cases that during all of the similarly styled thefts, the boy had approached the victims “holding a newspaper and distracted them by waving it in front of the screen, so he could steal €200”.

The boy had netted €1,000, which was not recovered.

Earlier, a garda had said that at one stage the boy had 51 live charges before the courts; his offences had been committed nationwide and the teen had been arrested for thefts at ATMs in counties Dublin, Galway, Sligo and Kildare.

During an earlier case, when the boy was aged 14 another judge had said: “Parental supervision does not exist at this stage. He is only 14 and roaming the country, the court would have grave reservations.”

http://www.breakingnews.ie/ireland/mhidcwqlkfcw/

AlmightyCushion

Romania are in the EU, that person under law has as much right to be here as you or I. Yeah it sucks and personally I wish there was an island where we could deport all scumbags to.

Biggins

Welcome to Europe, thats the law we adopted and thats that.
Sadly, we have to take the bad with the good sides to it too!

kinkstr

AlmightyCushion wrote: »

personally I wish there was an island where we could deport all scumbags to.

There is, its just your already living in it.

Parsley

AlmightyCushion wrote: »

Romania are in the EU, that person under law has as much right to be here as you or I. Yeah it sucks and personally I wish there was an island where we could deport all scumbags to.

Tried that before, and we ended up with Home & Away and Neighbours. :pac:

truecrippler

Jahsus, he's more money than I do.

Tha Gopher

AlmightyCushion wrote: »

Romania are in the EU, that person under law has as much right to be here as you or I.

Actually we can deport and ban other EU nationals under certain circumstances. Not sure but I think it is for repeated offences or if a 3 year or more jail term is given.

Unbelieveable he is still here though.

meathstevie

AlmightyCushion wrote: »

Romania are in the EU, that person under law has as much right to be here as you or I. Yeah it sucks and personally I wish there was an island where we could deport all scumbags to.

Not quite correct, any EU member state is perfectly entitled to give a citizen of another EU state who behaves like this particular young man a boot op his arse and a one way ticket back to where they came from. In this case it probably can't be done because in the eyes of the law the convicted criminal is not an adult and in the care of his parents who live here legally. You can be sure that every day of the week a good few EU nationals all over Europe are being deported to their country of origin by police/courts.

Remeber the UEFA European Championship finals in France ? The CRS escorted hundreds of Germans, Brits, Dutch etc to airports and railway stations for a one-way trip home after acting the muppet.

AlmightyCushion

meathstevie wrote: »

Not quite correct, any EU member state is perfectly entitled to give a citizen of another EU state who behaves like this particular young man a boot op his arse and a one way ticket back to where they came from. In this case it probably can't be done because in the eyes of the law the convicted criminal is not an adult and in the care of his parents who live here legally. You can be sure that every day of the week a good few EU nationals all over Europe are being deported to their country of origin by police/courts.

I didn't know this. Not too bad.

truecrippler

meathstevie wrote: »

Not quite correct, any EU member state is perfectly entitled to give a citizen of another EU state who behaves like this particular young man a boot op his arse and a one way ticket back to where they came from. In this case it probably can't be done because in the eyes of the law the convicted criminal is not an adult and in the care of his parents who live here legally. You can be sure that every day of the week a good few EU nationals all over Europe are being deported to their country of origin by police/courts.

Remeber the UEFA European Championship finals in France ? The CRS escorted hundreds of Germans, Brits, Dutch etc to airports and railway stations for a one-way trip home after acting the muppet.

Blatantly not!

Calderin

meathstevie wrote: »

Not quite correct, any EU member state is perfectly entitled to give a citizen of another EU state who behaves like this particular young man a boot op his arse and a one way ticket back to where they came from. In this case it probably can't be done because in the eyes of the law the convicted criminal is not an adult and in the care of his parents who live here legally. You can be sure that every day of the week a good few EU nationals all over Europe are being deported to their country of origin by police/courts.

Remeber the UEFA European Championship finals in France ? The CRS escorted hundreds of Germans, Brits, Dutch etc to airports and railway stations for a one-way trip home after acting the muppet.

Is a figure for the number deported from Ireland publicly available? We read of foreign nationals up in court on small charges such as petty theft quite often yet they always appear to get off with small fines or a similarly silly punishment, although we're all aware of what a joke our justice system is in itself.

Holsten

The judges in this country are ****ing idiots.

Thats why.

meathstevie

Wouldn't have a clue where to get the figures. Dept. of Justice might be a good start. As you said yourself : small charges, small punishment. We all know you can get a heavier penalty for not paying your TV licence than you would for beating someone black and blue.

120_Minutes

truecrippler wrote: »

Blatantly not!

theres an old irish saying : its not from the ground he took it.

who do you think taught him to steal?