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Speed Cameras (How far away)

  • 20-10-2008 4:13pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 576 ✭✭✭


    Quick question, How far away from the Gatso White Van do you have to be to get clocked.

    Is there a variable range on them or a standard distance that they work at?

    Also is there a tolerance on them .i.e 5% or 10%

    Was doing 85-90 on M1 80kph stretch and noticed the van about 400mtrs ahead. Kicking myself and waiting for a notice.


Comments

  • Closed Accounts Posts: 233 ✭✭oddone


    Frankly I have no idea but if you were doing that speed you deserve to be caught and fined.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 706 ✭✭✭BoardsRanger


    oddone wrote: »
    Frankly I have no idea but if you were doing that speed you deserve to be caught and fined.
    :mad::mad: your response is annoying to say the least


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 233 ✭✭oddone


    :mad::mad: your response is annoying to say the least

    Why so?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 576 ✭✭✭Fishyfreak


    oddone wrote: »
    Frankly I have no idea but if you were doing that speed you deserve to be caught and fined.

    Sorry Mammy. :confused:

    I'm asking an honest question. No more PC brigade replies please.

    Just read an old thread about the speedo's being out on most cars so I reckon i'm fine but i'm curious about how the cameras work.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 706 ✭✭✭BoardsRanger


    oddone wrote: »
    Why so?
    oh just the way you are on your high horse- probably the kinda guy in primary school who was always putting up your hand and saying "im telling" haha


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 28,128 ✭✭✭✭Mossy Monk


    High horse?


  • Registered Users, Subscribers, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,658 ✭✭✭✭antodeco


    Fishyfreak wrote: »
    Was doing 85-90 on M1 80kph stretch and noticed the van about 400mtrs ahead. Kicking myself and waiting for a notice.
    oddone wrote: »
    Frankly I have no idea but if you were doing that speed you deserve to be caught and fined.

    Obivously you're getting mixed up with 85-90mph as oppose to the 85-90kph...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 590 ✭✭✭bman


    Fishyfreak wrote: »
    Quick question, How far away from the Gatso White Van do you have to be to get clocked.

    Is there a variable range on them or a standard distance that they work at?

    Also is there a tolerance on them .i.e 5% or 10%

    Was doing 85-90 on M1 80kph stretch and noticed the van about 400mtrs ahead. Kicking myself and waiting for a notice.

    You'll likely be fine. Your speedo said 85 - 90 but they're overreading. Your real speed was probably somewhere between 80 and 85. I doubt they'll come after you for such a small break in the limit.
    oddone wrote: »
    Frankly I have no idea but if you were doing that speed you deserve to be caught and fined.

    If you're not a troll then I pity you greatly.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 706 ✭✭✭BoardsRanger


    Mossy Monk wrote: »
    High horse?
    thats a right!:rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 576 ✭✭✭Fishyfreak


    Cheers Bman, any idea how close to the camera you need to be anyway?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 233 ✭✭oddone


    I was just giving my opinion like everyone else and in my opinion the OP has admitted to excessive speeding, I am anti speeding like I would imagine most people with common sense, as I have seen at first hand the carnage and tragedy it causes.
    If you have a problem with that well so be it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 233 ✭✭oddone


    double post sorry.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 576 ✭✭✭Fishyfreak


    oddone wrote: »
    I was just giving my opinion like everyone else and in my opinion the OP has admitted to excessive speeding, I am anti speeding like I would imagine most people with common sense, as I have seen at first hand the carnage and tragedy it causes.
    If you have a problem with that well so be it.


    Look oddone, I was speeding, fair enough.

    If you know the stretch of road (Southbound) the speed goes from 120kph to 80kph. I slowed from 120 to about 85/88kph. I wasn't in a residential area, nobody was going to be killed.

    It was an honest lapse in my better judgement, i'm only human.

    Give it a rest, have you not got real problems to worry about like the rest of us.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 233 ✭✭oddone


    From your initial post it reads "Was doing 85-90 on M1 80kph"
    I presumed you meant 85-90mph which would be of course well over the top.

    If it was kph and as you described above then fair enough, and I'm not worried
    about it at all, was just expressing my opinions, it is a forum after all.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 576 ✭✭✭Fishyfreak


    No bother.

    It was Kph.

    Gotta go folks, internet time is up. Take it sleazy.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,704 ✭✭✭Mr.David


    oddone wrote: »
    was just expressing my opinions, it is a forum after all.

    'Tiz indeed, and it would be a boring one only for the odd one like yourself floating around :p


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 233 ✭✭oddone


    Mr.David wrote: »
    'Tiz indeed, and it would be a boring one only for the odd one like yourself floating around :p

    I shall take that as a compliment and be off. ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 140 ✭✭MisterCadbury


    Put a cd your dash or hanging from your mirror but make sure the reverse side of it is facing outwards in future. Apparently fires the lazer they use to clock you staight back at them leading to an inaccurate reading.

    Hate to think that could get actal maggots who go tearing round the place trying to max there cars off ,but it useful to know.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,584 ✭✭✭✭Steve


    The good 'ol days are back....speed fight!..:D

    oddone, have you met Cyclopath? I think you'll like him :pac:

    Fishyfreak, AFAIK they can clock you further than 400m but it all depends on the road and traffic in the line of sight.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,584 ✭✭✭✭Steve


    Put a cd your dash or hanging from your mirror but make sure the reverse side of it is facing outwards in future. Apparently fires the lazer they use to clock you staight back at them leading to an inaccurate reading.

    Hate to think that could get actal maggots who go tearing round the place trying to max there cars off ,but it useful to know.

    Old wives tale, doesn't work.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,883 ✭✭✭pa990


    Was anyone eagle eyed enough to spot the new Gatso Van (Actually a 'Robot Multanova C' Van) on the Lower Glanmire Rd today ??


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,160 ✭✭✭TheNog


    SteveC wrote: »
    Fishyfreak, AFAIK they can clock you further than 400m but it all depends on the road and traffic in the line of sight.

    400m?? Is that true?

    I know the hand held laser gun can detect a cars speed at about 500m without the tripod and up to 1000m with the tripod (manuafcturers stating this).

    If the Gatso can detect your speed at 400m then the camera would need to have a lens on it to take a pic of the reg and face of the driver.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,584 ✭✭✭✭Steve


    TheNog wrote: »
    400m?? Is that true?

    Don't know, you tell me dude...:D

    I thought the vans use laser..:confused:, not true?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 72,194 ✭✭✭✭L1011


    There is a good chance that 85km/h on your speedo is below 80km/h in reality anyway. You could be lucky.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,883 ✭✭✭pa990


    Fishyfreak wrote: »
    Quick question, How far away from the Gatso White Van do you have to be to get clocked..

    15 to 20metres is the distance at which the photo is taken, going by info i have gained from various motoring forums

    I'd be confidant to say that you are safe, bear in mind the the cop in the van will probably set the limit a little higher than what the road is, and that your speedo usually over-reads by a few k.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,668 ✭✭✭eringobragh


    Fishyfreak wrote: »
    Quick question, How far away from the Gatso White Van do you have to be to get clocked.

    Is there a variable range on them or a standard distance that they work at?

    Also is there a tolerance on them .i.e 5% or 10%

    Was doing 85-90 on M1 80kph stretch and noticed the van about 400mtrs ahead. Kicking myself and waiting for a notice.

    Where abouts was the van. I drove on the M1 before 5 and It was nowhere to be seen (going towards city centre)

    As for Laser/Radar, It depends , but the 8 new vans are running the ROBOT MultaRadar C. Which would take your pic at a distance of 10-15 metres, I'd imagine the GATSO radar vans would be the same.

    LIDAR on the other hand could be uop to a 1000metres but as the TheNog said it would need a serious lens to snap you at that distance.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 317 ✭✭bikki


    oddone wrote: »
    From your initial post it reads "Was doing 85-90 on M1 80kph"
    I presumed you meant 85-90mph which would be of course well over the top.

    If it was kph and as you described above then fair enough, and I'm not worried
    about it at all, was just expressing my opinions, it is a forum after all.

    Why do you presume he meant mph? Ireland is kph so its a fair guess that he meant kph. Think your just here to troll and try and start a flame fest.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,786 ✭✭✭✭Hagar


    Put a cd your dash or hanging from your mirror but make sure the reverse side of it is facing outwards in future. Apparently fires the lazer they use to clock you staight back at them leading to an inaccurate reading.
    An urban myth that doesn't work. But if you can get your hands on an old 8 Track cartridge and sellotape it to your forehead I hear they are the business.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 317 ✭✭bikki


    Put a cd your dash or hanging from your mirror but make sure the reverse side of it is facing outwards in future. Apparently fires the lazer they use to clock you staight back at them leading to an inaccurate reading.

    Hate to think that could get actal maggots who go tearing round the place trying to max there cars off ,but it useful to know.

    Always wondered why i used to see people doing that :D


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,301 ✭✭✭PixelTrawler


    Hagar wrote: »
    An urban myth that doesn't work. But if you can get your hands on an old 8 Track cartridge and sellotape it to your forehead I hear they are the business.

    I'm laughing away here, just got a mental image....:D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,270 ✭✭✭tin79


    i was told by two gaurds, one who has been out in a gatso on training that the range is only 20 meters. was also told that the capture limit is usually set to around the speed limit +10%

    i posted a question there the other day asking about speedos and was told they tend to over estimate your speed by about 5% on average.

    given all that you should be fine


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 233 ✭✭oddone


    bikki wrote: »
    Why do you presume he meant mph? Think your just here to troll and try and start a flame fest.

    Because he didn't state it in the post. What is a flame fest exactly?
    Try reading the full thread before making childish claims next time.


  • Moderators, Politics Moderators Posts: 42,146 Mod ✭✭✭✭Seth Brundle


    oddone wrote: »
    I was just giving my opinion like everyone else and in my opinion the OP has admitted to excessive speeding, I am anti speeding like I would imagine most people with common sense, as I have seen at first hand the carnage and tragedy it causes.
    If you have a problem with that well so be it.
    Any more trolling like this and I'll take pleasure in banning you.
    Your post was unhelpful and deliberately provocative.
    oddone wrote: »
    From your initial post it reads "Was doing 85-90 on M1 80kph"
    I presumed you meant 85-90mph which would be of course well over the top.

    If it was kph and as you described above then fair enough, and I'm not worried
    about it at all, was just expressing my opinions, it is a forum after all.
    You can express your opinions but not deliberately attack someone when its not justified.
    oddone wrote: »
    Because he didn't state it in the post. What is a flame fest exactly?
    Try reading the full thread before making childish claims next time.
    You started it by attacking the OP purely because you made an assumption about their speed.
    As for the speed limit there, this was introduced when the tunnel opened. IIRC it used to be 70mph. If I'm heading outbound and there is no traffic coming from the tunnel (or indeed from Santry) is it now less safe to travel on that stretch?

    You may disagree with someone exceeding the speed limit but don't confuse this with unsafe driving. Conversely, you should not assume that because you drive within the speed limits that you are driving safely!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,857 ✭✭✭Bogger77


    pa990 wrote: »
    Was anyone eagle eyed enough to spot the new Gatso Van (Actually a 'Robot Multanova C' Van) on the Lower Glanmire Rd today ??
    where abouts was it? Lwr Glanmire road is a long road :-)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,706 ✭✭✭craichoe


    The distance it measures your speed at depends on where they pointed the thing in the first place.

    Anyway, there is lines painted on the road where its pointed at, these are used to measure your speed.

    Driving through france would almost give you an epileptic seizure though **FLASH** .. WHEEEE !!!


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,786 ✭✭✭✭Hagar


    craichoe wrote: »
    Driving through france would almost give you an epileptic seizure though **FLASH** .. WHEEEE !!!
    The difference is that in France the location of all fixed speed cameras is published by the authorities. There are signs up that warn you that you are entering a radar controlled zone. It's almost as if they are using the cameras to force traffic to slow down on potentially dangerous stretches of road. Weird or what?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,883 ✭✭✭pa990


    Bogger77 wrote: »
    where abouts was it? Lwr Glanmire road is a long road :-)

    just beyond silversprings


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 233 ✭✭oddone


    kbannon wrote: »
    Any more trolling like this and I'll take pleasure in banning you.
    Your post was unhelpful and deliberately provocative.
    You can express your opinions but not deliberately attack someone when its not justified.
    You started it by attacking the OP purely because you made an assumption about their speed.
    As for the speed limit there, this was introduced when the tunnel opened. IIRC it used to be 70mph. If I'm heading outbound and there is no traffic coming from the tunnel (or indeed from Santry) is it now less safe to travel on that stretch?

    You may disagree with someone exceeding the speed limit but don't confuse this with unsafe driving. Conversely, you should not assume that because you drive within the speed limits that you are driving safely!

    First of all I'm not a 'troll' as you call it.
    I should think my lowly post count on here should be testament to that no?
    "Deliberately provocative", christ! I assume then that you will practice as you preach and ban the literally hundreds of other so called 'trolls' who contribute to these boards everyday, I have seen replies where the forum member has been downright insultful to the previous poster or op yet they seem to be able to continue to do so. Yet I voice my opinion and that is all it is and you're up on your high horse. How did I 'deliberately attack' him?
    It was a misunderstanding based on the information given in the OP,
    I am anti-speeding, that is my perogative and based on personal reasons,
    a few replies later I posted the following which you may have missed:
    oddone wrote: »
    From your initial post it reads "Was doing 85-90 on M1 80kph"
    I presumed you meant 85-90mph which would be of course well over the top.

    If it was kph and as you described above then fair enough, and I'm not worried
    about it at all, was just expressing my opinions, it is a forum after all.

    which the OP was good enough to respond to:
    Fishyfreak wrote: »
    No bother.

    It was Kph.

    Gotta go folks, internet time is up. Take it sleazy.

    The actions of a troll so you say? I think not as anyone with common sense would see.

    Oh and for the record..... this was a response to your reply, users who wish to reply to the OP please ignore this and carry on.
    Plus FYI I don't need a lecture on safe driving or indeed the speed limits for that matter as I do not assume anything such as you suggested above.
    I have used this forum many times before in many different sections and asked and helped to answer many queries.
    If you still want to ''take pleasure in banning me'' as you put it, then so be it.

    Thank you.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,270 ✭✭✭tin79


    craichoe wrote: »
    The distance it measures your speed at depends on where they pointed the thing in the first place.

    Anyway, there is lines painted on the road where its pointed at, these are used to measure your speed.

    Driving through france would almost give you an epileptic seizure though **FLASH** .. WHEEEE !!!

    Thats true for fixed camers but this question was about a Gatso


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