Paternity leave rights for fathers - Petition.

lostinnappies · 20-10-2008 12:28pm #1

http://www.petitiononline.com/time4dad/petition.html

PETITION

From the Paternity Leave Action Group (P.L.A.G.)

This e-petition was undertaken by the users of www.boards.ie in conjunction with the users of www.mumsfriends.com. Should you wish to contact us further please e-mail paternityleaveactiongroup@gmail.com as it is an e-petition everything is done via the internet.

Board members please note this is not up for discussion. If you agree please sign if not then dont sign.

lostinnappies · 20-10-2008 12:34pm

T.Keane - Galway

Quackles · 20-10-2008 4:38pm

D.Dillon-Malone,　Leitrim

metrovelvet · 20-10-2008 4:58pm

Is there a way to sign this without publically announcing your name? Id be happy to but I don't want to disclose my name here.

Nevyn · 20-10-2008 5:32pm

I will not be putting my full real life name on this thread.
I will be how ever sending a copy of that via email to all my T.D.s

lostinnappies · 20-10-2008 9:48pm

I think that in order for the petition to have validity it has to have real names. I suppose you could just sign your surname or even maden name for wemon.

January · 20-10-2008 10:24pm

Adrieanne Murphy, Dublin.

pickarooney · 20-10-2008 10:36pm

Worthy cause, sloppy execution. Put it in some semi-anonymous form at least (no association of user names with real names) and more people, myself included, will sign it. I'm kind of shocked to know Irish fathers don't even get a day off!

metrovelvet · 21-10-2008 12:16am

maybe you should have people pm you and give their email address and do it via email.

Dfens · 21-10-2008 10:19am

How about using online petition hosting, this site is free AFAIK. People can support the petition without compromising their Boards.ie secret identities.

http://www.petitiononline.com/

lostinnappies · 21-10-2008 12:27pm

Dfens wrote: »

How about using online petition hosting, this site is free AFAIK. People can support the petition without compromising their Boards.ie secret identities.

http://www.petitiononline.com/

Thats a great idea dfens. Im not a computer whizz so ill do my best to stick it up there and let you know.

littlebug · 21-10-2008 12:31pm

great idea Dfens. I have to say I'm reluctant to put my real name on here.
L-I-N it all looks great... sorry I wasn 't able to help out like I said I would

lostinnappies · 21-10-2008 1:04pm

http://www.petitiononline.com/cgi-bin/create_petition.cgi?ds2x2l
Here it is ... it will take a few days to be approved, so keep an eye on it and sign when you can.

Sleepy · 21-10-2008 1:13pm

lostinnappies wrote: »

http://www.petitiononline.com/cgi-bin/create_petition.cgi?ds2x2l
Here it is ... it will take a few days to be approved, so keep an eye on it and sign when you can.

Link isn't working but you should get emailed a working link when it's approved.

lostinnappies · 21-10-2008 1:40pm

Sleepy wrote: »

Link isn't working but you should get emailed a working link when it's approved.

Im such a nobie lol:rolleyes:
Ill post it then when i get it lol

lostinnappies · 04-11-2008 2:14pm

ok ignore what you see above and sign here instead
http://www.petitiononline.com/time4dad/petition.html

Redpunto · 04-11-2008 6:10pm

Done

ebmma · 05-11-2008 10:08am

done.:)

Dfens · 06-11-2008 11:09pm

Have added my name to the list.
Emailed the link off to a bunch of people also.

She Devil · 06-11-2008 11:49pm

Me to ... Its a disgrace!!

littlebug · 07-11-2008 11:30am

I've emailed the link off to loads of people.

When we start getting the emails back to ourselves we'll know we've saturated the market

lostinnappies · 07-11-2008 12:47pm

littlebug wrote: »

I've emailed the link off to loads of people.

When we start getting the emails back to ourselves we'll know we've saturated the market

ha ha thats funny

Sleepy · 07-11-2008 1:08pm

Fired an email off to all in my contacts list last night and can see a number of familiar names on the petition already

I've also added the link to my Facebook profile and status update and will add it to my sig here.

JoeyJJ · 07-11-2008 1:09pm

Stick the petition link on the opening post so more poeple will click and not have to read down.

Signed... Don't think i'll benefit unless its rushed through in the next couple of weeks. Ah well !

lostinnappies · 07-11-2008 1:26pm

JoeyJJ wrote: »

Stick the petition link on the opening post so more poeple will click and not have to read down.

Signed... Don't think i'll benefit unless its rushed through in the next couple of weeks. Ah well !

I have tried to do this but for some reason i cant edit anymore... prob edited too much when putting it up there.... maybe one of the mod could delete whats there and just put up the link .....PLEASE:D

lostinnappies · 07-11-2008 1:27pm

In other news I have been approached by the evening herald. At least I think it is because the e-mail address was @gmail.com so you cant really tell who its from. Ive asked them to join me on the chat chanel in the website i mod for.... ill keep you updated

justmum · 30-11-2008 3:15pm

Keith M and Lena S - Tipperary.

loyatemu · 01-12-2008 3:00pm

While I fully agree with this campaign, an online petition isn't worth the paper its not written on. You really need signatures on paper to get anyone to take notice.

lolly22 · 01-12-2008 3:12pm

loyatemu wrote: »

While I fully agree with this campaign, an online petition isn't worth the paper its not written on. You really need signatures on paper to get anyone to take notice.

I agree with what your saying Loyatemu it would mean more if they were written imo, but i dont see how L-I-N is going to be able to get all signatures like that.

Doesnt affect me much right now, but i do have a strong view on the situation.

Ill sign now and best of luck with it

Nevyn · 01-12-2008 3:23pm

loyatemu wrote: »

While I fully agree with this campaign, an online petition isn't worth the paper its not written on. You really need signatures on paper to get anyone to take notice.

I encourage everyone to email a copy with a note to therr T.D.

Rev Hellfire · 01-12-2008 3:33pm

While its a nice idea, I don't see it happening any time soon in the current economic climate. That said I guess it doesn't hurt to ask.

Nevyn · 01-12-2008 3:35pm

It would be nice to get is on more politcal parties agendas then just SF.
Most people do not know that fathers don't have the right to parternity leave.

lostinnappies · 02-12-2008 1:27pm

loyatemu wrote: »

While I fully agree with this campaign, an online petition isn't worth the paper its not written on. You really need signatures on paper to get anyone to take notice.

Hey feel free to print it off and stand on the streets lol. I plan to print it off and send it via mail eventually when its got enough signatures. Hoping everyone will do the same.

Mr. Presentable · 10-01-2009 2:58pm

Your petition doesn't say who you think ought to pay for said paternity leave.
I would agree with your quest if it was paid by the state, but not if the employer should have to pay. Then again, one might argue why should the tax payer pay for me to have time off with what is my choice to have children in any event.

As a father myself, and an employer, I think qualified unpaid leave is the proper solution. My reason? As an employer with three staff, were I to lose one for three months paid I would have to pay someone else to do the job also. This would put me out of business and three people out of work.

Orion · 10-01-2009 3:10pm

signed

lostinnappies · 12-01-2009 2:21pm

nipplenuts wrote: »

Your petition doesn't say who you think ought to pay for said paternity leave.
I would agree with your quest if it was paid by the state, but not if the employer should have to pay. Then again, one might argue why should the tax payer pay for me to have time off with what is my choice to have children in any event.

As a father myself, and an employer, I think qualified unpaid leave is the proper solution. My reason? As an employer with three staff, were I to lose one for three months paid I would have to pay someone else to do the job also. This would put me out of business and three people out of work.

I understand where you are coming from but we arent talking about 3 months. Seven days is all the petition has asked for ... which I think is reasonable. Most people cant afford to take any of the 14 weeks unpaid parental leave that they are entitled to ... bills to pay etc. As an employer who has three employees could you not be able to cover using your other employees for 7 days. What do you do when they take their annual leave?

As far as wither or not the government should be paying for it, I believe yes the government should be paying for it, in part at least. I know you will say that the tax payers shouldnt have to pay for me to have kids, but the vast majority of tax payers will at some stage have kids and be able to avail of this also... so really they are also paying for themselves or their OH to be able to take paid leave. We dont ask for a huge amount of time, just enough to be able to care for the mother/other children should she have to undergo a c-section and also to help the father FEEL like the valuable memeber of the family that he is and not just a pay check or bread winner.

Zynks · 13-01-2009 12:32am

I think we all agree that the paternity leave is necessary. How it will be implemented will not be decided by the terms of the petition anyway. I have signed it and will forward to other people.
Just as a note, my employer gives a full one day paid off, which is one day more than the law tells them to give. Only that my wife ended in labour for 36 hours, so it didn't even cover the pre-birth phase...

Paternity leave rights for fathers - Petition.

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