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Music Production Courses In College

  • 19-10-2008 8:45pm
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    I tried this thread in the college forum, with little success. I'll try it again with the music producers...Do you know of any college that does a course in Music Production?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,790 ✭✭✭PaulBrewer


    Mazletov wrote: »
    I tried this thread in the college forum, with little success. I'll try it again with the music producers...Do you know of any college that does a course in Music Production?

    Athlone IT is doing a combined Recording and Instrument Making Course, it's in it's second year.

    StudioRat who posts here, does some teaching on Bray Senior College's course.


  • Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 15,578 Mod ✭✭✭✭Furious-Red


    you could try and type in Music production into qualifax.ie i think


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 31,974 ✭✭✭✭Mars Bar


    Music Technology and Production in Limerick Institute of Technology, i'm doing it at the mo.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,731 ✭✭✭11811


    I'm doing a BA in music technology in Tralee IT...
    its the first year of the course but seems good so far.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 68 ✭✭jimmy-jazz


    i can tell you where not to go! i did a semester of music technology in queens in belfast last year. wouldn't reccomend it at all, although it depends what your after. it contains a lot of material on computer programming, using programmes like csound and ac toolbox and such. doesn't focus too much on studio work. as far as i know the degree course in maynooth is fairly similiar. you don't come out of the course with the necessary skills to work in a studio or on live sound. there are some courses run in the temple bar music centre that seem of a fairly high standard.

    www.soundtraining.com


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 31,974 ✭✭✭✭Mars Bar


    It must be a university thing coz that's much the same in UL...my friend dropped out of it last year coz he said it was just going nowhere. I'm enjoying my course, lots of Electrical stuff, kinda physics-y but that's what the studios are looking for. People who can fix a broken cable without killing themselves.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,790 ✭✭✭PaulBrewer


    Jimmy and Mars, that's interesting.

    Who, in your opinion, are these courses aimed at?

    Why do you think they don't deliver? Is it because -

    a. The course is the course, it's not really aimed at any particular market.

    b. The Unis aren't expressing the Course content well

    c. The Students are just hearing 'Audio' and presuming it's one thing and it's another.

    d. It's just Cack

    e. Some other reason

    ??


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 68 ✭✭jimmy-jazz


    PaulBrewer wrote: »
    d. It's just Cack



    ??
    biggrin.gifbiggrin.gifbiggrin.gif

    i'm not really sure to be honest, i feel anyway, that the universities kind of cheat you in their prospectus by being very grey on what the course covers, and when you talk to them they'll have you believe that you're actually going to be fit to work you're way around a studio when you're finished, when you quite simply won't. unfortunatley a lot of people don't realise this until they finish the course and go to a studio with their degree.........you'd be as well showing up with a beard and try to convince them you're rick rubin.

    but to answer your question i'd say it's a nice mash of a,b and ctongue.gif


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,790 ✭✭✭PaulBrewer


    jimmy-jazz wrote: »
    biggrin.gifbiggrin.gifbiggrin.gif

    i'm not really sure to be honest, i feel anyway, that the universities kind of cheat you in their prospectus by being very grey on what the course covers, and when you talk to them they'll have you believe that you're actually going to be fit to work you're way around a studio when you're finished, when you quite simply won't. unfortunatley a lot of people don't realise this until they finish the course and go to a studio with their degree.........you'd be as well showing up with a beard and try to convince them you're rick rubin.

    but to answer your question i'd say it's a nice mash of a,b and ctongue.gif

    ...or a 'Tache ! Give me a job I've the best facial hair in my class!!

    My limited experience is that most people I've met teaching (except my learned friend StudioRat) are hobbyists .... parallel compression to them is when you've 2 compressors in the rack beside each other !


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 68 ✭✭jimmy-jazz


    PaulBrewer wrote: »
    ...or a 'Tache ! Give me a job I've the best facial hair in my class!!

    My limited experience is that most people I've met teaching (except my learned friend StudioRat) are hobbyists .... parallel compression to them is when you've 2 compressors in the rack beside each other !

    ah jesus, hang on till i pick myself off the floor! that's a good'n. but yeah, the tutors i had were phd students who were spending every minute typing code to generate sine waves n all that craic, that, with professors of musical theory,(while useful) did not lend itself to great knowledge of studios!

    spending months learning to do something like this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EQZd9uoSw7Q&feature=related just is not my idea of fun!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 31,974 ✭✭✭✭Mars Bar


    PaulBrewer wrote: »
    Jimmy and Mars, that's interesting.

    Who, in your opinion, are these courses aimed at?

    Why do you think they don't deliver? Is it because -

    a. The course is the course, it's not really aimed at any particular market.

    b. The Unis aren't expressing the Course content well

    c. The Students are just hearing 'Audio' and presuming it's one thing and it's another.

    d. It's just Cack

    e. Some other reason

    ??

    I agree with Jimmy in the sense that the prospectus in the Universities are misleading...they don't actually give too much detail. In saying that, the IT one wasn't much better. I didn't realise there was as much physics involved as there is, but that is only for 1st year. I thought the Sound and Light module was about sound systems and lighting systems, not the case. It's the biology of the eye and ear and how we percept light etc... I decided when my friend dropped out of the UL one. He said the programming was balls...The IT's lucky in the sense that it has a 3 story building dedicated to the Video and Sound and Music Technology course...Another guy in my course was also aiming for the UL course and chose against it when he heard bad things about it also.

    I think the main reason people drop out is because they don't get into the studios straight away...you have to understand how it works before actually working it and alot of people are just impatient.

    Long point short, I agree with Jimmy. It's a mash of a, b and c.


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