Consitutional Law?

BarryDoodles

Having devoured previous sections of the law I find myself drowning in a sea of confusion with Consitutional Law.... This may seem like a foolish question but what should one pay attention to when shifting through various Consitutional text books etc... i.e Whats the subject about (the simplier put the better)
Thanks guys

johnnyskeleton

Broadly speaking, half is about how the state is set up (president, dail, external relations etc) and the other half is about rights (freedom of speech, right to liberty, freedom of religion etc).

The juiciest bits are about particular rights, and these generate more case law.

Tom Young

Johnny is on the mark.

The best possible way to deal with it is to know it, understand it and map it simply back to concepts which are practical and applicable to every day life.

Its a great adventure, if you can distill it down.

Tom

TheVan

James Casey's book makes the most sense imo, so get your hands on that if you can. It is out of date in certain respects (come on new issue!) but is more up to date than JM Kelly.

BarryDoodles

I have Casey's book and access to Kelly's. I hear Oran Doyle's new book is excellent and in the same vein as Enright's contract book.
I find constitutional law to be somewhat lacking practicality and 'grounding'.I spend my lectures wondering how this could ever by examined for something like the fe1's or even in college without resorting to historical narrative. How is it examined?

dK1NG

TheVan wrote: »

James Casey's book makes the most sense imo, so get your hands on that if you can. It is out of date in certain respects (come on new issue!) but is more up to date than JM Kelly.

Casey = 2000
Kelly = 2004

I much prefer Kelly tbh.

Havent had a chance to get a hold of Doyle's book yet, but something was badly needed imo, a lot has happened since 2004.

Tom Young

Doyles book is good. Many of the contributions were presented at the Constitutional conference in Trinity last year.

Ri na hEireann

A little off topic, but does anyone know where I could pick up a decent reasonably priced copy of Casey online. I can't seem to find it anywhere.

walrusgumble

is michael forde sc's book any good?

BarryDoodles

Got Doyles Book, it helped me greatly

How is constitutional law examined? hardly the historical side would be asked?

Tom Young

BarryDoodles wrote: »

Got Doyles Book, it helped me greatly

How is constitutional law examined? hardly the historical side would be asked?

It varies. Sometimes the historical aspects can be asked, say in relation to unenumerated rights, as they are just that and rarely are subject to vast change.

New areas tend to be Separation of Powers, Property, Proportionality, ECHR etc.

Parky1

I have Oran Doyles book and my lecturer is recommending to get James Casey for assistance.. Are these books not the same in some sense? I presume Casey explains matters?

Does anyone know where I can get James Caseys book the third edition?
Im really looking for it second hand!!

Would appreciate anyone's advices.

Thanks

walrusgumble

Parky1 wrote: »

I have Oran Doyles book and my lecturer is recommending to get James Casey for assistance.. Are these books not the same in some sense? I presume Casey explains matters?

Does anyone know where I can get James Caseys book the third edition?
Im really looking for it second hand!!

Would appreciate anyone's advices.

Thanks

casey does a great chapter or two about the history of bunreacht nahéireann and the 1922 constitution. he always does a very good job breaking down what seperation of powers means and its effect (read the sinn fein trust case and judge curtin v dail eireann as they cite all relevant law and explans really well the scope each organ has - sorry, i am sure i have pointed the obvious, and you are well aware of what sop is - of course their is also david gywnn morgans book which is handy but thats another matter)

i do not know what doyle's book is like, but i have read many of his articles in various journals and i sure he explains issues clear and student friendly.

casey is good in that, it is a very authoritive book, often cited in court (tom young might clarify that) and also often at each chapter gives critical comments about various issues, which may help to delve into when you are doing essays, thesis etc

johnnyskeleton

walrusgumble wrote: »

is michael forde sc's book any good?

Gerry Hogan is a silk too. You don't need to include the honorific.

Parky1

Thank you walrusgumble for your reply! I have managed to get Casey from a library so will see how I get on with it..