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  • 19-10-2008 5:21pm
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 166,012 ✭✭✭✭


    My brother was recently arrested for assault charges, is out on bail and has a court case coming up. His girlfriend [now ex] said that he threw her against the wall, slapped her back and chest, and left scratch marks. She said this took place in her apartment. Drink was involved on both parties.

    When I got a phone call at 3:30 am from the police and heard what happened I was in absolute shock and dismay.

    When my brother was released on bail, he said he has absolutely no recollection of what happened, that she wasn't even in the apartment, that they had been out and were drinking, that he came home before her and the next thing he knew the police broke in the door and had him in handcuffs.

    I am loathe to disbelieve a woman who makes these claims but I am in shock at this and don't know what to believe. I reprimanded my brother, told him he needs AA and if these allegations are true then he needs serious therapy before he kills someone and cant remember it.

    But... then he releases details little by little about her... she's an alcoholic...she was hospitalised for three months after a suicide attempt...she's on xanex...a history of abortion...

    Then I read the police report and in the details are included scratching, but my brother's nails are always kept extrememly short and wouldn'y be able to scratch anything. And this detail is what raises doubt for me.

    Any experience of this kind of thing?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 19,969 ✭✭✭✭mikemac


    They can match scratches on her body to your brother, from material under his fingernails.
    The gardai have teams for this and they can prove things better than your theory on short fingernails
    If they have evidence it might be used.

    It wouldn't be the first time a guy has been wrongly accused but we don't know the facts in this case. Let the DPP decide if they have enough evidence and if they are going to court, well it seems they are confident that they do if a court date has been set


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,647 ✭✭✭dragona


    Er, sorry - what does a *history of abortion* got to do with anything??


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,610 ✭✭✭Karen_*


    dragona wrote: »
    Er, sorry - what does a *history of abortion* got to do with anything??


    +1

    OP they both sound like they're are seriously screwed up. I think its a matter of who is the most screwed up rather than who is to blame. They need to stay away from drink and from each other.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,770 ✭✭✭Bottle_of_Smoke


    dragona wrote: »
    Er, sorry - what does a *history of abortion* got to do with anything??

    Some people would think someone who's had multiple abortions(which is what I interpreted a history of abortions as) might be more likely to be an unstable person. Or if you're pro-life you might see the person as selfish uncaring or reckless. I'd certainly see someone who's had multiple abortions as reckless.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,729 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    If he had enough alchohol in his system where he cant remember what happened between him getting home and getting arrested...well yeah.

    Alchohol and Xanax aren't a fantastic combination either mind you, and I've heard first hand accounts of the most vivid hallucinations from people under the influence.

    Either way its a crazy situation and I don't think you can dismiss it all on the length of someone's fingernails.

    Anyway when he releases this information little by little about her how can you be sure how much of it is the truth?


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  • Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 42,361 Mod ✭✭✭✭Beruthiel


    Discussing an on going legal case on a website is not helpful to your brother.
    Even unregged, people can work out who you are if they sign up here.
    If he doesn't have a good solicitor, make sure he gets one.


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