The hell fire club

CianRyan

Honestly, do any of you guys know the full story behind the place?
And what does every one think of the stories that have came out of this place?

I my self have never experienced anything up there, but always have a weird feel about the place.
And i assure its not about being on a mountain, i am well use to those! :P

(have a feeling i'll get flamed for this)

DANNY22XX

http://blather.net/blather/1998/10/the_irish_hellfire_club_no_smo.html

CianRyan

Thanks for the link man, great read.

6th

One of the guys who wrote that article has is release a new book called "Haunted Dublin" which has a chapter in it about the HFC and the area. Its alot more detailed than that article. I have my copy right here

CianRyan

Ohh, where did you buy it?
I'd love to pick one up.

6th

Click the link in my post or go to blather.net

I'm reading it now and as someone living down the road from the HFC its a great read.

CianRyan

I noticed that but dont have a card to order online, i'll check out the ussual spots for books, and if al else fails i'll get my parents card.

Yeah im not to fr off the hell fire club either, about a 30 minute walk.
Haven't been up in a while, must get up at some stage.

6th

There is a book launch later this month where you can get a copy, should be details on that site.

CianRyan

Yep on the 30th, might not be in dublin for then though.
If i am though, i'll pop along.
A book launch and a few drinks, WIN.

Darragh29

CianRyan wrote: »

Honestly, do any of you guys know the full story behind the place?
And what does every one think of the stories that have came out of this place?

I my self have never experienced anything up there, but always have a weird feel about the place.
And i assure its not about being on a mountain, i am well use to those! :P

(have a feeling i'll get flamed for this)

Hey Cian, I was trying to muster up a gang of skeptics and believers to stay up there for a night. Now that we are in recession, surely some folks would be up for a cheap night out of the house! There must be 4/5 people out there who would be on for this... Preferably a few skeptics and a few believers... Anyone???

Darragh29

CianRyan wrote: »

Honestly, do any of you guys know the full story behind the place?
And what does every one think of the stories that have came out of this place?

I my self have never experienced anything up there, but always have a weird feel about the place.
And i assure its not about being on a mountain, i am well use to those! :P

(have a feeling i'll get flamed for this)

I forgot to mention in my last post, there are detailed historical transcripts of The Hell Fire Club in the Rathmines & Tallaght Library, I have yet to get up to have a look at them but I'll update as soon as I've had a chance...

CianRyan

During the easter break?
I'd be up for that, sounds like a great laugh.

And 'll have to check out tallaght library for that.

Darragh29

CianRyan wrote: »

During the easter break?
I'd be up for that, sounds like a great laugh.

And 'll have to check out tallaght library for that.

Correction Cian, there are papers about the Hell Fire CLub in the Rathmines Library. I was reading a book this week called "The Bleeding Horse", it's a short book about the Bleeding Horse pub and has a few other stories about old Dublin. The author mentioned that he was in the Rathmines Library and came across some manuscripts about The hell Fire Club in Ireland...

CianRyan

Ment the halloween break up above, woops!

How do i get to the rathmines library?

Darragh29

CianRyan wrote: »

Ment the halloween break up above, woops!

How do i get to the rathmines library?

Yeah the Halloween break sounds good. Although you might find more activity up there at this time of the year with halloween cider parties, etc. As far as I know, next weekend is a bank holiday weekend, which might suit...

See below for Rathmines Library info...

http://www.dublincity.ie/RecreationandCulture/libraries/find_your_library/Pages/rathmines_library.aspx

Darragh29

Any other folks on for a kip over in this place???

CianRyan

Ahh, i know the place, always wondered what it was exactly. haha

Hmm, just thinking, i've heard *****s of rituals taking place up there on halloween night, havent a clue weather its true or not though.

6th

Actually South Dublin County Council use this place over Halloween every year now for walks etc as part of Hallowfest. Coilte will be all over the place regularily.

CianRyan

I know they use it during the day, but its a kids thing (they got in my way last year) so i dont know if they use it after dark and such.

Darragh29

CianRyan wrote: »

Ahh, i know the place, always wondered what it was exactly. haha

Hmm, just thinking, i've heard *****s of rituals taking place up there on halloween night, havent a clue weather its true or not though.

There are a lot of urban myths about this building...

Darragh29

6th wrote: »

Actually South Dublin County Council use this place over Halloween every year now for walks etc as part of Hallowfest. Coilte will be all over the place regularily.

Saw an poster for this for halloween but this is basically a school tour for kids, over and done with within school time... Coilte have had a few signs up saying beware of forestry work but I've been up there a lot recently and haven't seen any sign of any...

Darragh29

What happened to the Halloween ghosthunting up here!?!

CianRyan

Kinda fell apart.:o

Maybe next year though.

Darragh29

Juat back from a walk up at the HFC. There seems to be a fair bit of activity up there tonight inside the building, not the usual chavs knacker drinking either...

CianRyan

Explain yourself.

Darragh29

I took a walk up there at dusk last night just to see the fireworks and bonfires accross the city and there were people upstairs in the house, but they seemed to be adults and they weren't partying, just talking quietly, maybe druids or pagans or something...

Riamfada

Why would modern "druids" and pagans be hanging out in a 250 year old gaff? They were most likely junkies or idiots believing kiddies Ghost stories about the place

6th

Ah now Grimes, why only consider the structure and not the area itself? Shame on you.

Riamfada

There aint nothing that'd be of interest to pagans or druids up there. The place they want to be is Piperstown Hill , one hill over.

Nevyn

Who said they were pagan or druids could have been thrill seekers and how to do you know if the pipers stones would be of intrest to anyone ?

Riamfada

Thaedydal wrote: »

Who said they were pagan or druids could have been thrill seekers and how to do you know if the pipers stones would be of intrest to anyone ?

I was saying that if they were Pagans or Druids, which they most likely were not would they not be more likely to be hanging out in the 4000 year old Bronze Age piper burial cairns and bronze age stone ring in the valley than an 18th century hunting lodge beside the ruins of a relatively insignificant neolithic passage grave. So we more or less agree

Darragh29

I don't know who these folks were, but it seemed weird for the day that was in it (Halloween night) that a party of adults would be huddled up together in a room in a house in the middle of God knows where, trying to keep their voices down...

Riamfada

Darragh29 wrote: »

that a party of adults would be huddled up together in a room in a house in the middle of God knows where, trying to keep their voices down...

Paranormal Invastigators?

6th

Yeah those damn invastigators!

Nevyn

Bunch of weridos

Darragh29

Took these pics today up at the Hell Fire Club, place was enveloped in a thick fog, gave the place a nice errie feeling!

iamhunted

i cant seem to fnd any reference to the hell fire club ever being haunted ..... am I missing something or is this just another place thats claimed to be haunted because it's spooky looking (like loftus hall)?

blue42

iamhunted wrote: »

i cant seem to fnd any reference to the hell fire club ever being haunted ..... am I missing something or is this just another place thats claimed to be haunted because it's spooky looking (like loftus hall)?

did you not read any of the stories about the hellfire club??

iamhunted

stories yes - witness accounts, no. anyone can tell a story.

It is about as haunted as Loftus Hall , ie , zip !

iamhunted

the 'creepy looking' factor goes a long way

CianRyan

Stories have gotta come from somewhere, and its not like one person came onto boards and decided it was haunted.
Its a 50/50 place, you'll either belive the myths or you wont.

iamhunted

at a guess I'd say the stories were about long long before the boards paranormal forum

Creepy stories can easily spring from creepy places. It'd be more interesting if someone actually had a recent inexplicable paranormal experience in the place though (not counting strange animal/junkie sightings) - that's all Im saying. Otherwise its all a bit Most Haunted.

Carturo

OK I'm not a sceptic but...

...why was he 'seeking refuge', according to that article, if he could simply vanish into thin air? Honestly, I'm asking...is there a reason he went there other than refuge, which seems a little thin.

Riamfada

Hookers and Coke


Its a story about a creepy house on a hill that overlooks Dublin. Before Coilte platned the hill in the 60s/70s it would have been very dominant on the South Dublin skyline. Even as a kid I remember seeing it looming over Tallaght everyday and now the trees obstruct the view. Imagine how it was before there were trees? I found an abandoned village today up the wicklow mountains. It was pretty terriifying at times. Its all in the phenomenology.

G

Darragh29

I posted previously on another thread on this very subject When I was in the scouts, we had a leader who was an archaeologist who worked in UCD. He brought ground survey equipment up to the hell Fre Club on a hike that had been organised up to the summit and after an hour of scanning inside the building, had claimed to have found evidence of a large cavity under the ground floor of the building. I remember at the time, the leaders talking about coming back and examining the exact spots that were idnetified in the survey of the floor, but whether or not they ever did, I wasn't to know as I left the scouts around that time... I recall at the time, there was discussion regarding whether the cavity could have been a grave or something buried under the floor, but one thing was clear from my memory, that there was a large space/cavity under the ground floor inside the building...

iamhunted

if it was basically a rich kids playground in the last century then theres probably a few 'secret' rooms lurking about.

sambuka41

I'd love to go spend a night up there!! Id say you absolutely freeze up there tho!! Maybe when the weather gets warmer!!! I live beside Rathmines library so might have to pop in and see what info they have!

Although in saying that i have never heard anyone talk about freaky experiences in Hell Fire.

mattfender

took a spin up to it tonight...wasnt gonna walk up tho

Jessica xxx

NZ wrote: »

Hey, I first came across the HFC in that book! I am going up there with the tour this week on the Wednesday night. I am also doing the ghost bus (for Halloween obv) but i've done it before and its not so good, i've heard the Hellfire club excrusion is going to be really scary, u can book at <snip>

What exactly is that?