Dentists Abroad compared to Ireland?

Glacier

I'm travelling soon I was just wondering if foreign Dentists were much more expensive than Iriah ones. I may need a crown, the Dentist said you might cover it with a filling if money was a problem. Would it be wise to do that for the meantime & maybe later when I can afford it get it done Abroad?

Larianne

Got a wisdom tooth out in Australia in January. Cost me $360. Got another wisdom tooth out in April in Cambodia. Cost me $17.50!

So depending on where you go the price differs. A lot of people are now getting dentistry work done in Thailand. Much cheaper.

Glacier

What would you pay for that here? Medical expenseses are supposed to be most expensive here, is it the same for Dental costs? Does anyone know?

peterworn

hi,

It is good you are study on dental. But study dental in abroad is very expensive then Ireland. you can study in Ireland only you get certificate of abroad nothing else all are same.

neighbours

Im off to Turkey on the 30th for 4 days of dental work costing 2,000 euro flight and accomadation 350 euro sunshine free. Had I went to my dentist here it would cost me 7,500 euro . i will let you know how it goes

leontes

hello, i have been working for a dental clinic in Kusadasi / Turkey. i d like to give information about our service. But i dont know if its possible to add our clinic's website address here. Maybe its forbidden 'cos of advertisement. if anybody needs information please send me private message.

piccolopixie

Hi,
My Dad and I would really like to take a holiday in order to get some work done on our teeth. I keep hearing about Turkey. Can anyone suggest someone good there or anywhere cheap and nice really?

neighbours

I love Turkey and always holiday to Alanya, its got lots of Irish living there and last week the temperature was 30 degrees its cheap to eat ect. Manchester offer great flights. Gatwick and Stansted also have them ,I know you can fly from Dublin I think its british airways but this time of year is very expensive. I went b&B in a hotel and the flights from stansted for 200stg if you need any help pm me Il send you the links I use to book holidays.

I just had my dental work done there last week and I am very pleased feel free to pm me

Phil RevaHealth

I wrote a short article about this for a supplement in the Herald last week. The prices at the end are averaged from three clinics in each country. If you'd like to read the full supplement just let me know.

Phil

P.S. Does anyone know how to use the Table tag on Boards? It would make comparing the prices below much easier!

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The biggest single reason that people are interested in travelling abroad for dentistry is that they know that they can save substantial amounts of money if they do so. A person in Ireland looking to have two implants and two crowns fitted can expect treatment costs to start at €5,750, and that excludes any preparatory work that is needed such as extractions, root canals, or treatment for gum disease.

A person travelling to Hungary on the other hand can expect treatment to cost from €2,050. Similarly, this figure doesn’t cover any preparatory work, and travel, accommodation and living expenses need to be added onto this. However, even with the two trips needed for dental implants the total starting price could be as little €3,000.

Dentists in Ireland will often say that when you travel abroad for treatment you are not comparing like with like when it comes to prices, and they have a point. This is where you need to do your own homework. Different brands of dental implants cost different amounts. The type and quality of crowns and implants can vary wildly. However, the same is true here in Ireland. The key is to know what you are being quoted for right down to the smallest detail, and then to compare it with what you are being quoted for abroad. If the brands don’t match, ask why not. If you’re suspicious of the answers you receive, check them out either with another dentist or with previous patients.

An important point to make is that choosing where to go purely on the price is a big mistake. You really need to be satisfied that you trust the dentist and their clinic, and that they are going to be using a quality of material that you will be happy with. One thing to bear in mind is that you don’t have to choose the cheapest option to still save a lot of money. Travelling abroad can also give you the chance to get a better quality of treatment for the same price as basic treatment at home.

Here is a look at the average starting prices quoted for common dental treatments in clinics around Europe.

Hungary
Implants: €779
Crowns: €250
Veneers: €300
Whitening: €272
Root Canal: €103

Poland
Implants: €739
Crowns: €192
Veneers: €201
Whitening: €232
Root Canal: €91

Turkey
Implants: €826
Crowns: €178
Veneers: €180
Whitening: €224
Root Canal: €129

Spain
Implants: €707
Crowns: €360
Veneers: €440
Whitening: €300
Root Canal: €142

Ireland
Implants: €2,125
Crowns: €750
Veneers: €728
Whitening: €340
Root Canal: €418

Source: RevaHealth.com

davo10

When reading the above post, be mindful of the fact the revahealth is a company/website which advertises and promotes treatments abroad, they are unconcerned about the quality of treatment provided by the clinics as long as advertising revenue is generated.

Phil RevaHealth

Some clinics, both in Ireland and abroad, absolutely pay us money, just as some do the Yellow Pages or any other directories and listing sites.

We're an informational site for clinics at home and abroad. In fact, we list far more in the UK and Ireland than we do anywhere else. Our ultimate goal is to let people find and compare clinics anywhere, and show them that they have options whether they are around the corner, down the motorway or across the sea.

We stress again and again that patients have to do their own homework when it comes to the quality and qualifications of any dentist or doctor they plan to visit, be it one in Ireland or one abroad. Ultimately the patient has to live with the results.

The article above is pretty fair and balanced I'd say, and the facts and figures are genuine. That said, I'm always interested in and willing to listen to any opinions people have, be they professional or patient.

davo10

Phil, regarding your post.
1.What qualifications do the dentists placing the implants have?.
2. What type/make implants are they placing, are they reputable brands with studies to prove their long term success rate or are they cheap generics manufactured in Eastern Europe/China, I have seen the problems these can cause. Just for your information Straumann is one of the big implant brands with 25 years of research/developement/studies, other brands are Nobel biocare, Ankylos and 3i. All of these companies sell their implants at similar prices throughout the world and they cost almost as much to buy as these clinic abroad are charging i.e they are not using premium brands but cheap alternatives. All implants are not the same.
3. what type of crowns are being used?, are they monochromatic white crowns with no detail or characterisation, every person who has anterior crowns done now wants natural looking teeth not tic tacks, I have seen numerous examples of these artificial cheap crowns.
4. Are they procera/lava/empress crowns which are now being demanded by more and more patients because of their superior cosmetics.
5. Are the root treatments being done with care and attention to detail?. In most cases root treatment requires at least 2 vists, one to remove nerve and place medicaments so any bacteria/infection is cleared, the second to clean/shape/sterilise and fill the canals. Rubber dam (barrier placed on frame over tooth should always be used). I use the latest equipment and techniques and even at the quickest rate of doing it, it takes me approx two and a half hours to root fill a molar. I have seen patients who describe having a root filling abroad on a molar done in 30 mins.
6. what type of veneers are being quoted, they are not all the same. Cosmetics/strengths/adhesives used vary.
7. what type of whitening is being quoted in your article, did you know that certain strengths/brands/compositions have been banned here and in UK because they were deemed unsafe, are they being used abroad?

Lastly I am currently treating a patient who had extensive treatment done in Turkey, her teeth have been destroyed, just some of the problems are:
a) poorly done root canal.
b) decay under 6 of the crowns placed.
c) overhanging margins on crowns so large amounts of food/plaque getting caught between teeth.
d) ill fitting lower denture.
e) back teeth which were crowned do not meet on right side meaning that excessive load being placed on front/other side teeth.
f) huge deposits of cement left around crowns causing gum infections.
g) colour/characterisation of front crowns poor, they are bright white from top to bottom so look completely false.
h) all treatment done in one week with no arrangements made for adjustments/after care even though she had virtually every tooth in her mouth worked on.

If I did this work, there would be a whole forum dedicated to me/my incompetance and impending legal actions. and just in case you think this is fictitious I have asked the patient to consider consenting to me posting the photographs I took on this forum so others can see what happens when work that must be done over many months/years and should include treatment planning/ diagnostic wax-up/ bite appliances/ a period of temporization/ accurate root treatments especially on teeth to be crowned/ fillings on teeth to be crowned removed and any decay excavated/ try in of crowns/bridges prior to final lab finish/ fit and review appointments to make the adjustments that are always necessary after multiple teeth restorations. THIS CANNOT BE DONE IN ONE WEEK WHILE YOU HAVE A HOLIDAY.

By the way the patient also had teeth crowned which were perfectly fine beforehand but because she was getting " such a good deal" she had them done too. Unfortunately it is now going to cost her a lot more to have this corrected than it would have to have the work done here in the first place.

neighbours

That is scarey stuff, fingers crossed mine wont cause me any trouble so far so good davo10

davo10

Neighbours don't worry, this is a very specific case, the treatment she had done was very complex as it involved restoring a large number of upper and lower teeth at the same time, treatment planning was crucial, the percentage of people who require/request this type of treatment is very small. Your teeth are likely to be fine

neighbours

I suppose we all take risks espically when there is such a difference in the price. Its just such a difference overseas to have anything done. Im happy with my treatment so far and I have had follow up contact with the dentist. But as you say im sure some are not so lucky. Its nice to see the points you make and perhaps if I had read it before it would have made me think alot about it.I have agreat dentist here in Ireland and Im very happy with the treatment I got from him but I needed so much work done I had no choice but to go abroad there is no way I could have afforded it here and well vanity took over and I decided it was a must.

davo10

Totally understandable. We Irish are used to paying a lot for everything from groceries to cars to dental treatment and because we pay so much we quite rightly expect quality to reflect the price we pay. I cannot afford to charge what is charged in Turkey, i would actually make a considerable loss if i did. But because i charge a certain fee i am obliged both morally and professionally to make certain that the work i do reflects the cost the patient pays. For this reason i use a top lab ( lab costs would cost almost as much as you may have paid in Turkey for a crown), treatments are carefully planned and more time than is required is booked off for complex treatments so nothing is rushed. And please don't think i am touting for business, i will never post nor email my address, these are just opinions. Your work was carried out by someone recommended to you, what phil's company does is entice people to travel for treatrment based on price alone, he may deny this but the ads on his site are all about discounted costs rather than quality.

Phil RevaHealth

Davo10, you may be surprised to find out that I agree with the thrust of what you're saying about dentists abroad, particularly about finding out exactly what treatment (including brand names) you're going to receive. That said, there are many, many dentists abroad who do use Noble Biocare, Straumann or 3i implants, procera crowns, CERAC 3D milling and the other top quality treatments you mention.

Again, that's why we urge people to do their homework before committing to anything. It's why we wrote and published articles like:

10 Reasons You Should Not Travel Abroad For Dental Treatment

and

10 Questions To Ask Before You Travel Abroad For Treatment

We even have an article about why the cost of dental implants vary so much.

The reason I'm on this board and the reason why our website exists is to give people information, which lets them make an better informed choice than they could if our site didn't exist. 90% of people travelling abroad for dental treatment do so because of price reasons, so of course we're going to mention it. What we hope is that once people come to the site, they read some of the articles and reviews, compare different clinics and contact whatever clinic meets their own quality criteria, be that at home or abroad.

What happened to the patient you mention is obviously terrible, and I would hope that the clinic and dentist that peformed the treatment are named at some point, either here or somewhere else where people can find the information.

I posted in another thread asking about whether people had experienced rushed treatment themselves, and what their outcomes were, because I am genuinely interested finding out what happens, especially what the complications are. That way I can write more and inform more people of any potential pitfalls.

From everything I've read and heard, I know that root canals usually take a couple of visits, as do many other procedures. It's getting this information out there that's important so that should a patient contact an unscrupulous dentist, they know that they can't get their whole mouth implanted and crowned in 3 days.

In the last survey we carried out, 50% of people who travelled abroad hadn't gone to their own dentist first before they travelled. I would love to see this figure fall, because it would mean that more people were at least seeking professional advice before travelling.

As ever, I welcome any comments or contributions you or anyone else would like to make.

BryanL

Phil,
I saw 2 patients that had Empress 2 veneers placed on 10 of the top teeth in Goa for pennies, 3 were off after 2 weeks.
Which is not unheard of, but fairly difficult to get the occlusion/bite corrected on them when your a few thousand miles away.
It's great that you have articles outlining what should be known before travelling, but your site is about promoting and profitting from cheap foreign Dentistry?
It'd be hard for you to be impartial?

davo10

Phil, do you honestly think that the clinics on your website that are offering implants for € 700 are placing any of the four (reputable,premium)brands above?. I would ask people to remember that this product is being implanted into your body, surrounded by living tissues, also implants may not fail immediately, it can take months or even years for problems to become symptomatic. I saw a patient who had an implant placed a couple of years ago, she did not have any complaints but a routine OPT radiograph showed a large inflammed area around the implant with extensive bone loss.

Implants/multiple crown/bridgework always require a follow up appointment and there are nearly always some minor adjustments necessary, these adjustments can be the difference between pain/no pain, porcelain fracture/no fracture, success of failure. How many people who have outrageous amounts of treatment done during short holidays are willing to hop onto a plane again 10 days later to have the treatment reviewed?, some offer a visit to an affiliate here but the patient is not seeing the person who did the treatment.

The dentist who treated my patient I suspect knew that he was unlikely ever to see her again so the banged in whatever crowns he could in one week. By the way i recommended she return to Turkey for treatment but she is resigned to the fact that she is unlikely to get any satisfaction from the dentist/Turkish dental council. She views it that she took a chance and it didn't work out.

CJay

davo10 wrote: »

Phil, regarding your post.

Lastly I am currently treating a patient who had extensive treatment done in Turkey, her teeth have been destroyed, just some of the problems are:
a) poorly done root canal.
b) decay under 6 of the crowns placed.
c) overhanging margins on crowns so large amounts of food/plaque getting caught between teeth.
d) ill fitting lower denture.
e) back teeth which were crowned do not meet on right side meaning that excessive load being placed on front/other side teeth.
f) huge deposits of cement left around crowns causing gum infections.
g) colour/characterisation of front crowns poor, they are bright white from top to bottom so look completely false.
h) all treatment done in one week with no arrangements made for adjustments/after care even though she had virtually every tooth in her mouth worked on.

If I did this work, there would be a whole forum dedicated to me/my incompetance and impending legal actions. and just in case you think this is fictitious I have asked the patient to consider consenting to me posting the photographs I took on this forum so others can see what happens when work that must be done over many months/years and should include treatment planning/ diagnostic wax-up/ bite appliances/ a period of temporization/ accurate root treatments especially on teeth to be crowned/ fillings on teeth to be crowned removed and any decay excavated/ try in of crowns/bridges prior to final lab finish/ fit and review appointments to make the adjustments that are always necessary after multiple teeth restorations. THIS CANNOT BE DONE IN ONE WEEK WHILE YOU HAVE A HOLIDAY.

Um, firstly, yes it can...and I've seen the results
Secondly, I've spent 15 years of my life in agonising pain with my teeth due to the incompetence of Irish dentists. I will never trust an Irish dentist again as long as I live! Phobia is an understatement

My teeth are crooked, discoloured, ugly (and immensly sore, so it's not possible for me to smile happily and forget how awful they look).

This is not the reult of bad hygiene on my part, as has since been proven without a doubt, the first dentist decided to carry out unnecessary treatment that started the destruction of my teeth, recent reviews of the x-ray's taken at the time proved my teeth were perfect..."neither over nor under cleaned with no cavities".

It is the result of one incompetent public dentist I was sent to in primary school combined with work privately done work by 3 other seperate dentists!

I have seen friends & acquaintences return from dental holidays over the past few years with beautifully perfected teeth that haven't caused them any problems, one girl had hers done in 2002 and are still looking amazing!
At this point it's enough to make me fight my own fears and finally get something done!!!

In my opinion, anyone who doesn't properly research before they go is buying a pig in a poke, but I'm researching and have physical proof to back it up!

davo10

Please post your physical proof for all to see. It sounds like you have an axe to grind.

Dentistry has advanced leaps and bounds in recent years, nearly every patient who comes in to me has a story to tell about "the school dentist", and many were indeed over/under treated but that may have been due to lack of resources/ some incompetance sure enough, I can't argue with that.

Nor do I for one second say that all treatments done abroad are bad, most of the simple stuff is excellent. But what I do say, and I have 15 years of genaeral/private/Hospital dental experience, is that you cannot do advanced multiunit dental treatments in one week. I am certain you are convinced it can be done but I see the evidence on a regular basis that it can't. Nothing would make me happier then to post radiographs and photos of the patients I see on this forum, i gaurantee it would be food for thought. Unfortunately most patients do not want to tell/admit to other people that the treatment they have had, has not worked out, there is a fear of the " serves you right" attitude.

Lastly, I'm not quite sure how you can blame your dentist for you teeth being
"crooked, discoloured and ugly", is it possible you may have benefited from orthodontic treatment when a teenager, perhaps your teeth are stained from coffee/tea/cigarettes/wine etc, do you floss regularly to prevent plaque buildup, do you have your teeth cleaned regularly to maintain good oral hygiene, is the dentist you saw 15 years ago responsible for your neglect?

Phil RevaHealth

Hi BryanL, Davo10,

It's not that hard to be impartial. The listings for dental tourism focused clinics was just the first section of our site that we built, largely because it is such a small sector. As I mentioned before, we now also list pretty much every dental clinic in Ireland and the UK, and we're constantly improving that section of the site. Believe you me, there are a lot more people looking for a dentist around the corner than are looking for one overseas!

Thanks to the Dental Council of Ireland's recent change to their Code of Practice Pertaining to Public Relations and Communications [PDF], Irish clinics are now specifically encouraged to publish prices and fees, particularly on websites. This is great news as far as I'm concerned. Whether you want to call it advertising, promotion, or directory listings, the more information that is available to the public the better.

Finally, on your point about prices and brands Davo10, the prices in my article on the previous page are all the average starting prices, and that includes the quoted Irish price. Out of interest's sake, I took a look at the brands that the first eight overseas clinics displaying prices for implants list, and here's what I found:

Four clinics list brands, four don't. The prices for ones that list brands are:

Swiss Plus Titanium Screw Zimmer implants: €800 + 5 Year guarantee
Nobel Biocare, Lifecore and Friadent Dentsply: From €671 to €915
Zimmer®, Straumann®,Ospol®, FMD®: From €850 to €1,200
3i: Typically €720

I would like the other four clinics to list their brands too, and there are staff working here who will try to gather that information. Similarly, I'd like every Irish clinic to list their prices and brands too. I can't recommend that anyone should make a decision on price alone, but I can certainly defend encouraging every clinic to publish theirs.

As ever, thanks for the replies, and I welcome any comments.

CJay

Davo10, I've never smoked, I hate red wine, very rarely drink white wine, and don't drink enough tea / coffee to be worried about caffeine stains. Also, as a child I hated sugary foods, and it seems it was with good reason as they brings me out in hives.

You're attitude is what I've faced for years..."how dare you blame us dentists! we're perfect! It can't possibly be our fault! It must be yours!"

Can you please read my post carefully and you'll see I didn't just see one dentist 15 years ago, I've spent the past 15 years regularly going to many dentists who, one after another, brought my teeth to ruin. Evidence of all work was gathered and reviewed and it the fault was firmly pinned with the dentists. Plural! It was also proved that I, personally, did not, nor do not, neglect my teeth. I recieved a full apology from the Irish dental association, but sadly these were in the days before sueing became an Irish past-time and it never crossed my mothers mind.

Sooooo.....eeeem, let me think! Eh no, If I had a way of posting this stuff, I don't feel the need to prove a thing to you my dear, and I've been vindicated to my personal satisfaction! My axe is well ground, and you have no right, given that you don't know me or my situation, to assume the damage caused was through my own neglect.

And in case you're wondering, my entire dental history was reviewed at the dental hospital in Cork before I got my apology! My mother fought for the work to be fixed, and they halfway did it before "losing my files" and forgettng about me. My mother had alot of it kept, but these were in teh days before sueing became commonplace and she didn't facny her chances in court. She'd also fought for braces, which I badly needed but never got.

But tell me this, what happens to teeth when a root canal treatment (later proven to be unnecessary) is being carried out and such a muck up is made of it the patient ends up with infmaled gums that leak infection into the mouth, and the infection is left untreated for about a year. What happens a patients self esteem when they have to go to school with (visibly) inflamed gums and often need to run from class retching because their mouth fills up with this rancid fluid?

How does dentist break roots in adjoining teeth while attempting to fill in the roots of another tooth that had apparently died but was still causing me immense pain, no cavities in it, it was the only thing the dentist could think of doing.

I've got 5 "dead" teeth in my head! 5! No fillings, no decay, they're just sitting there. And a 6th tooth fell apart one night, so it's got a temporary crown on it, also dead, but there's so little of the original tooth left I don't consider it a tooth anymore. Looking back on photo's of myself is depressing, I had a fine set of gnashers at the age of 10!

When I started working I did go to private dentists to see what could be done. I'm terrified to sit in a dentists chair, yet I force myself to as I really want to be happy with myself when I look in the mirror!
I was told by one "you have to feel a little pain". I walked out on another dentist who laughed and told me "You'll need to win the lotto or marry a millionaire before you'll see a decent set of teeth". What kind of dentist laughs in your face?
I asked another dentist if I could get braces when I was 22 and was told I was too old for braces.
In my opinion I've personally researched Irish dentists, I'm now vigorously researching dental clinic's abroad!

I will say my current dentist is brilliant, and is fully supportive of me going abroad to get what I need done as she feels what would have to pay here is unfair given what I have put up with for years. She's done alot of work to help my teeth cosmetically and is helping me in my search. She's symapthetic about the fact that I still cry while gettng my teeth cleaned, because even though I know I can trust her I'm still terrified.

CJay

Phil RevaHealth wrote: »

Hi BryanL, Davo10,

It's not that hard to be impartial. The listings for dental tourism focused clinics was just the first section of our site that we built, largely because it is such a small sector. As I mentioned before, we now also list pretty much every dental clinic in Ireland and the UK, and we're constantly improving that section of the site. Believe you me, there are a lot more people looking for a dentist around the corner than are looking for one overseas!

Thanks to the Dental Council of Ireland's recent change to their Code of Practice Pertaining to Public Relations and Communications [PDF], Irish clinics are now specifically encouraged to publish prices and fees, particularly on websites. This is great news as far as I'm concerned. Whether you want to call it advertising, promotion, or directory listings, the more information that is available to the public the better.

Finally, on your point about prices and brands Davo10, the prices in my article on the previous page are all the average starting prices, and that includes the quoted Irish price. Out of interest's sake, I took a look at the brands that the first eight overseas clinics displaying prices for implants list, and here's what I found:

Four clinics list brands, four don't. The prices for ones that list brands are:

Swiss Plus Titanium Screw Zimmer implants: €800 + 5 Year guarantee
Nobel Biocare, Lifecore and Friadent Dentsply: From €671 to €915
Zimmer®, Straumann®,Ospol®, FMD®: From €850 to €1,200
3i: Typically €720

I would like the other four clinics to list their brands too, and there are staff working here who will try to gather that information. Similarly, I'd like every Irish clinic to list their prices and brands too. I can't recommend that anyone should make a decision on price alone, but I can certainly defend encouraging every clinic to publish theirs.

As ever, thanks for the replies, and I welcome any comments.

Hi Phil, I must say your site is a great help in researching clinics. Thank a million for your postings, they're proving to be a great help!

davo10

Cjay, I'm sorry you have had such bad experiences, on forums like this we really only get a snapshot of each person's opinions and history. you seem to be on a winner with your current dentist.

But you are precisely the type of patient who should not seek treatment abroad. You may require multiple visits where treatment is taken slowly to build confidence, multiple visits mean multiple trips. The clinics abroad rely on the fact that patients go there and want extensive work done in a very short period of time. I gaurantee you if you say " I only want one root treatment done today and maybe a filling" it will not work out that cheap. they want you to say " i want 5 root treatments and five crowns and i want to be on the plane home the day after tomorrow"

Also due to the non vital condition of a number of teeth, your may require root canal treatments and multiple crowns. You will only want this done once in your life so go to someone you trust here, someone you can visit regularly and easily in the future for maintainence of the work. Also the dentist who advised you that you are too old for ortho treatment is completely wrong. i have patients in their fifties who have ungergone ortho treatment as part of their cosmetic makeover.

Ask yourself what will happen if you go abroad and find that the dentists are the same as you have seen in the past but just cheaper, what will happen if you become upset and cannot complete the treatment, what happens if down the line you have problems with the work done, at least here you can go back in and complain. Remember ortho treatment can take up to two years with visits every 6 weeks, how many flights is that.

CJay

Interesting story, I personally know a girl who, in her 20's, went to the UK and had her teeth straightened in 3 days, she had another 3 days recovery, a further check up before she left and no problems since. She was lucky in that she needed no additional treatment at the time, but that was in 2000. My first eye-opener when it came to treatments abroad! So here I am, 8 years on, still researching so I can't be accused of not taking time to consider! Yes, I have researched Irish clinics, but the snobbish attitude of dentists I've consulted with has put me off them. Have you any idea how insulting it is to try and explain your dental history to a dentist and have them dismiss it as dramatised nonsense and insist that the state of my teeth must be, absolutely, beyond a shadow of a doubt, my fault entirely! On my part I reasoned that I would need to point out that my personal hygiene isn't a disgrace because, if what I've learned is correct, poor oral hygiene means you can jeopardise crowns, implants or other such treatments!??!

I'd say a part of me wants to deal with a dentist who, on top of doing an expert job on my gnashers, is suitably symapthetic. If they're not I'm instantly uncomfortable...on top of the pure terror I've swallowed entering a dental clinic in the first place.
If the dentist has no confidence in me and what I have to say, I have no confidence in them...simply put...I don't think it's a big ask!

You admit yourself that you've seen good work done abroad...keeping that in mind...what if one was to find an excellent clinic abroad, well backed with research, research and more research, and what if said clinic also had a well established base in Ireland? And what if a patient who went to such a clinic did her best to care for her teeth and regularly attended a dentist, and said dentist was helping with the research and more than willing to help with post treatment support?
After 15 bad years, 5 good ones (despite the pain & nasty fangs) & 8 years of research, questions & consultations, my path is set in concrete!

davo10

teeth straightened in 3 days, orthodontically?, fantastic. cjay you seem to be very commited to your next course of treatment, i wish you well.

Stocious77

I was seen recently by a Turkish Female Dentist in Dublin. She put a camera in my mouth & I watched in horror as she showed me the damage behind my teeth. She quoted me €3,400 for 24 crowns and some bridge work, all to be done in 1 week or 2 if I so wish. Having been there once upon a time, {Kusadasi} I'd rather not stay any longer than I have to! She said this work would cost me €30,000 in Ireland. She has a very elaborate looking website which tells you she will honour any work that goes wrong, you just have to pay for your own flights & hotel. Having read this thread, I'm in 2 minds about going :eek: She does seem very popular and comes off as genuine.

Neighbours, could you let us know if you had any trouble in the months after your treatment? How are things now? I have no chance of raising the money to get the work done in Ireland so am very tempted to go but will look into the other countries as well. I believe there is a Hungarian one that does after care in Dublin....Anyone got any stories to tell on Turkey or anywhere else?

neighbours

I hav no trouble atall with my teeth since having them done My turkish dentist still phones me to make sure im happy with them. I am going back in July for a holiday and a check up but I have to say its the best money I spent.

georgieporgy

Phil RevaHealth wrote: »

I wrote a short article about this for a supplement in the Herald last week. The prices at the end are averaged from three clinics in each country. If you'd like to read the full supplement just let me know.

Phil

P.S. Does anyone know how to use the Table tag on Boards? It would make comparing the prices below much easier!

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The biggest single reason that people are interested in travelling abroad for dentistry is that they know that they can save substantial amounts of money if they do so. A person in Ireland looking to have two implants and two crowns fitted can expect treatment costs to start at €5,750, and that excludes any preparatory work that is needed such as extractions, root canals, or treatment for gum disease.

A person travelling to Hungary on the other hand can expect treatment to cost from €2,050. Similarly, this figure doesn’t cover any preparatory work, and travel, accommodation and living expenses need to be added onto this. However, even with the two trips needed for dental implants the total starting price could be as little €3,000.

Dentists in Ireland will often say that when you travel abroad for treatment you are not comparing like with like when it comes to prices, and they have a point. This is where you need to do your own homework. Different brands of dental implants cost different amounts. The type and quality of crowns and implants can vary wildly. However, the same is true here in Ireland. The key is to know what you are being quoted for right down to the smallest detail, and then to compare it with what you are being quoted for abroad. If the brands don’t match, ask why not. If you’re suspicious of the answers you receive, check them out either with another dentist or with previous patients.

An important point to make is that choosing where to go purely on the price is a big mistake. You really need to be satisfied that you trust the dentist and their clinic, and that they are going to be using a quality of material that you will be happy with. One thing to bear in mind is that you don’t have to choose the cheapest option to still save a lot of money. Travelling abroad can also give you the chance to get a better quality of treatment for the same price as basic treatment at home.

Here is a look at the average starting prices quoted for common dental treatments in clinics around Europe.

Hungary
Implants: €779
Crowns: €250
Veneers: €300
Whitening: €272
Root Canal: €103

Poland
Implants: €739
Crowns: €192
Veneers: €201
Whitening: €232
Root Canal: €91

Turkey
Implants: €826
Crowns: €178
Veneers: €180
Whitening: €224
Root Canal: €129

Spain
Implants: €707
Crowns: €360
Veneers: €440
Whitening: €300
Root Canal: €142

Ireland
Implants: €2,125
Crowns: €750
Veneers: €728
Whitening: €340
Root Canal: €418

Source: RevaHealth.com

Phil, could you clarify if the implant fees you quote are just for the implant alone or is the abutment and final restoration included?
I have checked the 'foreign' websites and it seems the restoration is not included in the implant fee.

The Irish €2,125 figure does include the complete restoration.

You can see how the uninitiated may be misled