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TVR -

  • 14-10-2008 3:20pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 499 ✭✭


    I really want a TVR Tuscan -
    I think they are unbelievbable looking....

    But I've read so many horror stories with reliability etc...

    Does anyone have any experience???


Comments

  • Closed Accounts Posts: 34,809 ✭✭✭✭smash


    Go to octane.ie - there's a few TVR Tuscan's there. the owners will fill you in. Cracking car!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 136 ✭✭MRJ


    The cerbera is a nice looking car dont know if they still make them, they would wipe the floor with any Ferrari or Porsche.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,526 ✭✭✭vengeance52


    i love the tuscans. fantastic cars, and fun to get out of (hint, to open the door is a button on the dash)

    Check http://www.pistonheads.co.uk/gassing/forum.asp?h=0&f=5

    Great threads from owners of the car.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 333 ✭✭Funxy


    It' just like every single car in the world. You are just as likely to get a lemon nissan micra as you are a tvr. If it was well cared for and a good example then it will be reliable. Any car has a chance to break down and mostly the ones with bad reputations is simply because they made less of them so it seems like they are more unreliable then something them make hundreds of thousands of. Yet in reality the % is probably the same.

    If you love the car then get it. Remember bad things spread much faster then good. It's an amazing car. The only downside is the Irish roads and how badly maintained they are. You might have a sore ass after a long journey but i'm sure it will be worth it for the smile on your face :D
    MRJ wrote: »
    The cerbera is a nice looking car dont know if they still make them, they would wipe the floor with any Ferrari or Porsche.

    You can't make a sweeping statment like that! What about the enzo, the gt, the gt3rs? Yes Tvr's are incrdibly fast and would wipe the floor with some very special performance cars but not everything :p


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 136 ✭✭MRJ


    Funxy wrote: »
    It' just like every single car in the world. You are just as likely to get a lemon nissan micra as you are a tvr. If it was well cared for and a good example then it will be reliable. Any car has a chance to break down and mostly the ones with bad reputations is simply because they made less of them so it seems like they are more unreliable then something them make hundreds of thousands of. Yet in reality the % is probably the same.

    If you love the car then get it. Remember bad things spread much faster then good. It's an amazing car. The only downside is the Irish roads and how badly maintained they are. You might have a sore ass after a long journey but i'm sure it will be worth it for the smile on your face :D



    You can't make a sweeping statment like that! What about the enzo, the gt, the gt3rs? Yes Tvr's are incrdibly fast and would wipe the floor with some very special performance cars but not everything :p
    The enzo's, gt's and the gt3rs are all in excess of £100,000 hardcore hypercars and are in a different league to the cerbera, but up against a 911 turbo,360 ferrari and a few other main stream super cars it would beat them hand down and was a bit cheaper to buy brand new


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 34,809 ✭✭✭✭smash


    If you're serious about buying one talk to Mark4Tuscan on octane - he's got a beauty of a Tuscan S!

    @MJR - The Cerb is nice but a Tuscan is so much better looking in my opinion, they're a different league of car!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 333 ✭✭Funxy


    MRJ wrote: »
    The enzo's, gt's and the gt3rs are all in excess of £100,000 hardcore hypercars and are in a different league to the cerbera, but up against a 911 turbo,360 ferrari and a few other main stream super cars it would beat them hand down and was a bit cheaper to buy brand new

    I can't argue with you there! :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 774 ✭✭✭Seperate


    i love the tuscans. fantastic cars, and fun to get out of (hint, to open the door is a button on the dash)

    Make sure to read this golden nugget of advice.

    I was giving the inside a quick freshen up and when it was time to get out, couldn't find how to get out of the thing. I was seconds away from having to call the owner and ask how to get out. That would have been embarrassing.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,704 ✭✭✭Mr.David


    I say go for it. It would be advisable to have some experience getting the hands dirty on cars though, as they are not the most reliable motors (but are quite basic and so DIY gets you a long way).

    Not a TVR expert myself, but one thing that you should check out is how difficult it is to get parts seeing as they arent in production anymore.

    Other than that, I suppose just factor in large servicing/running/tyre bills and you'll be sorted :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 333 ✭✭Funxy


    Mr.David wrote: »

    Not a TVR expert myself, but one thing that you should check out is how difficult it is to get parts seeing as they arent in production anymore.

    Very easy indeed. So many independents have sprung up in the past few years, once you know a few good people in the uk you'll be sorted :cool:


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,570 ✭✭✭rebel.ranter


    steve06 wrote: »
    Cracking car!

    They are made of fibre glass right? They probably would crack with the right impact :D

    As for parts, I'm nearly sure a lot of the stuff not related to the body are actually raids of Vauxhall & Ford items.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,008 ✭✭✭rabbitinlights


    They have some of the best sounding engine and exhaust notes of any car on the planet.......

    S.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 174 ✭✭xt40


    TVR is short for trevor, the founders first name. i wonder why they shortened it:cool:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,074 ✭✭✭10-10-20


    I've been camping in Le Mans for the last few years and where you get tonnes of TVR & Ferrari owners over from the UK, so it's a good chance to chat and have a shifty.
    The TVR's are just raw passion, items of beauty. For looks and engine note, they win hands-down.

    But, they are not infallible and are known to have more than their fair share of problems.
    Just before TVR shut up shop, I was in a dealership in Stansted village (no guesses on which airline abandoned me there...) and there were 7 cars in the forecourt. 3 of these were display models and the other 4 had missing engines or were on blocks.

    Not a way to sell cars.

    Anyhow, I'm all for owning a TVR, just set your expectations of reliability low enough and you won't have a problem...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,056 ✭✭✭Tragedy


    I was at the same dealership, they had some noice motors. Stansted village itself was ridiculously pretty.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 499 ✭✭Roonbox


    Thanks for the response lads... Definitely getting one, altough Im going to make a meal out of picking one, seeing it, buying it etc so the whole process will prob take months...

    I think ill hold onto my piece of **** 4 door saloon just in case however....

    I saw one for the first time a few weeks ago and that was me sold, the noise,........ beautiful.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 610 ✭✭✭green-blood


    I'd go get myself some trining if I were you, TVR dont suffer fools lightly... wouldn't want to see you dead in a ditch


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 499 ✭✭Roonbox


    Dont worry about that, Ill be able for it


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 34,809 ✭✭✭✭smash


    you going to go for a Tuscan S?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 499 ✭✭Roonbox


    If I can get one, have about 30k to spend, and want one that has had the engine reconditioned, Ill prob have to travel to the UK by the looks of it....

    There's a ****e load on autotrader


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,704 ✭✭✭Mr.David


    Go the whole hog and get this one:

    http://www.pistonheads.co.uk/sales/669300.htm

    Twice the power/weight of a Veyron. Well flip me pink bet ya she moves :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 333 ✭✭Funxy


    Tragedy wrote: »
    I was at the same dealership, they had some noice motors. Stansted village itself was ridiculously pretty.

    That would be Castle Lotus/Tvr. I was just there last week. Excellent place and really good to deal with! :cool:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,863 ✭✭✭RobAMerc


    I drove a Tuscan S a few years back - I have to say I have driven alot of motors but the Tuscan S was the first time I was ever in a car that I was afraid while I was driving

    It didn't start well as the salesman pumped himself up before he started it and then said right I am going to admit to being a bit nervous about this :eek:

    I found out why a few minutes later - they are unreal quick but given the fact it will light up the rears while you doing about 60, the lack of any sort of driver "aids" and the skittishness of the car on our poorly surfaced roads left me thinking the car wasn't for me.

    I imagine a trip across the country would leave you wrecked - I couldn't imagine driving it in the wet and you'd have to have a serious think before ever giving it any sort of welly leaving a roundabout as a damp patch would mean a change of trousers.

    Richard Hammond once described driving the Tuscan as being like sitting there in the pub having a great time with your mate and him suddenly without warning he rips your head off.

    having said that you would get used to it - without the aids there is loads of feel through the wheel ( and seat ) and brake pedal and they purposely have a very long travel on the accelerator as an enormously crude type of Traction control. They are beautiful to look at - sound like the world is about to end when you give it sox and the interior is simply a masterpiece.

    A great toy I imagine but you'll need to keep your day car.

    best of luck with it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,620 ✭✭✭Graham_B18C


    Mr.David wrote: »
    Go the whole hog and get this one:

    http://www.pistonheads.co.uk/sales/669300.htm

    Twice the power/weight of a Veyron. Well flip me pink bet ya she moves :)

    I never knew you could actually buy these! I always thought they were a concept car only owned by the extremly rich, along with the bmw z8's of the world!

    If you're getting a tvr thought, get the Tuscan, the most beautiful car i've ever seen, makes ya feel good everytime you see one! But as for reliability, when richard hammond had one of the newer tvr's (brand new) it broke down 3 times in a couple of days!

    But if you can afford it and can handle the heartache of it breaking down then get it! Imagine telling your friends you've to head off to fix your TVR! Oh i love it!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,538 ✭✭✭niceirishfella


    An olde mate of mate has a TVR Tuscan.......very, very troublesome tho. Terribly uncomfortable yoke and he admitted himself to a load of us down the pub one night that he feels like a middle aged tosser driving around it in and doesn't think he looks good climbing out of it after arriving somewhere. (mind you, he is a tosser):P
    He told me that Everything that could go wrong, does and did. Its left him stranded loads of time.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,290 ✭✭✭Ferris


    The Cerbera is meant to be one of the best of them but only with the AJP8 V8 engine. The 6 cylinder engines give a bit of trouble however, they blow heads and oil pumps apparently.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 333 ✭✭Funxy


    RobAMerc wrote: »

    I imagine a trip across the country would leave you wrecked - I couldn't imagine driving it in the wet and you'd have to have a serious think before ever giving it any sort of welly leaving a roundabout as a damp patch would mean a change of trousers.

    That's very true. Tvr's in ireland are not fun for doing long trips in because of how hard they are set up. Even at the softest. You need to be 100% focused at all times and you will be wrecked driving anywhere over 3 hours ;)

    What car are you coming from Roon, if you don't mind me asking? I would deifnitly advice a bit of driver training in the uk once you pick it up! :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 34,809 ✭✭✭✭smash


    I think even at prices like this http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/740324.htm you'll be hard pushed to get a Tuscan S landed in Ireland for 30k


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,023 ✭✭✭Barr


    Im so jealous Ive always wanted a Tuscan since I saw Swordfish ...they look an absolute cracker


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 888 ✭✭✭tdc


    MRJ wrote: »
    The cerbera is a nice looking car dont know if they still make them, they would wipe the floor with any Ferrari or Porsche.

    are you serious??


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,290 ✭✭✭Ferris


    tdc wrote: »
    are you serious??

    Not quite every Ferrari or porsche but with these figures -

    4.2 4.2s to 60 and 180mph top
    4.5 3.9s to 60 and 195mph top

    in the early 00's the Cerbera would have bet the more lowly supercars alright.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 888 ✭✭✭tdc


    Ferris wrote: »
    Not quite every Ferrari or porsche but with these figures -

    4.2 4.2s to 60 and 180mph top
    4.5 3.9s to 60 and 195mph top

    in the early 00's the Cerberus would have bet the more lowly supercars alright.

    so they could more or less keep up with a '99 ferrari 360? i think "mop the floor" is a really bad choice of words.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,863 ✭✭✭RobAMerc


    Seriously lads - there is an awful lot more to a car than just speed - there is a very good reason why Ferrari and Porsche sell thousands and TVR don't despite the not inconsiderable price difference.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,290 ✭✭✭Ferris


    tdc wrote: »
    so they could more or less keep up with a '99 ferrari 360? i think "mop the floor" is a really bad choice of words.

    I wouldn't describe a 360 as lowly.

    The Cerbera was between stg30-45k when new, considerably cheaper than any supercar and a lot of sportscars. if fact it was stg10k cheaper than the base 911 which it would knock the pants off performance wise. Actually you would need a Carerra 4 Turbo to catch one at a cost of stg90k.

    im not saying it was as good as a porsche, they certainly gave a huge amount of trouble, but it was certainly able to worry a lot of decent sportscars, costing a lot more, both on and off the track.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 333 ✭✭Funxy


    Don't forget the Sagaris which was the fastest production tvr (bar the speed 12) at 3.7 secs to 60.
    RobAMerc wrote: »
    Seriously lads - there is an awful lot more to a car than just speed - there is a very good reason why Ferrari and Porsche sell thousands and TVR don't despite the not inconsiderable price difference.

    Yes there is alot more to a car then 0-60. But the reason porsche and ferrari sell alot more is because they are backed by billions of dollars/pounds/euros. Tvr actually made their own engine in the end and you have to give them huge credit for that on a very limited budget and then went on to beat alot of cars at 2 times the price. Of course some are unreliable but your going to hear alot more about 'my mates tvr that went bang' then your 'mates grannys micra that went bang'!

    Point of the day being now that prices are so low on second hand tvrs they are definitly one of the best performance cars to have. They are hard to drive, they do scare you ****less, they may break down. But that's all part of the excitment of having an on the edge sportscar. If you can't handle that then stick with the more bland 350z's and rx9's :p


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 136 ✭✭MRJ


    tdc wrote: »
    are you serious??
    Go on to you tube and type in TVR cerbera race.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,811 ✭✭✭✭Slidey


    I heard the rumble of a v8 in Sligo the other day and turned round to see one go past.

    I would like to drive one, but not own one. Very few mechanics like to work on their own cars!

    My mate reckons driving one is like going out with a stunning looking bird and knowing she was gonna give you an STD and dump you but still going at her bareback!


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