New Avensis in the flesh

Gumbo

dont know if actual pics have been posted here yet but here is some of the 2009 car.











and engine line up :

- 1.6i Valvetronic 132 CV 6v
- 1.8i Valvetronic 147 CV 6v
- 1.8i Valvetronic 147 CV Multidrive
- 2.0i Valvetronic 152 CV 6v
- 2.0i Valvetronic 152 CV Multidrive
- 2.0 D4D 126 CV 6v
- 2.2 D4D 150 CV 6v
- 2.2 D4D CAT Aut. 150 CV
- 2.2 D4D CAT 177 CV 6v

Tragedy

Eww.

And


Eww.

Guy:Incognito

That front end is manky. The bonnet looks like a slab just sitting on the wings. The first pic from further away does it no favours at all. Looks better closer up.

Gary ITR

Tragedy wrote: »

Eww.

And


Eww.

+1

Bee

kceire wrote: »

dont know if actual pics have been posted here yet but here is some of the 2009 car.


and engine line up :

- 1.6i Valvetronic 132 CV 6v
- 1.8i Valvetronic 147 CV 6v
- 1.8i Valvetronic 147 CV Multidrive
- 2.0i Valvetronic 152 CV 6v
- 2.0i Valvetronic 152 CV Multidrive
- 2.0 D4D 126 CV 6v
- 2.2 D4D 150 CV 6v
- 2.2 D4D CAT Aut. 150 CV
- 2.2 D4D CAT 177 CV 6v

Thanks for posting these pictures

Truly it is an awful looking car

The front looks similar too, but worse than a Nissan Tiida (apologies to Sister Majella of Our Ladies of Perpetual Motion in Sneem)

The interior silverised plastic, well I have seen better in a Euro shop in the kiddies cars section

If the figure of 132 cv means 132 Bhp than that should bring the accceleration up to pedestrian levels rather than the truly terrible performance of the current Avensis:rolleyes:

Stiil it should steam past the majority of the current bread "n" butter Ford Mondeos crucified by a terribly underpowered 1.6l

The worst things about Toyota engines is that you have to rev the BeWhatsits out of them and you still go no faster. I expect the same from the new ones

I know I had one for a month rental on business:(

Lex Luthor

problem is it will sell by the bucketloads

E92

Bee wrote: »

If the figure of 132 cv means 132 Bhp than that should bring the accceleration up to pedestrian levels rather than the truly terrible performance of the current Avensis:rolleyes:

Stiil it should steam past the majority of the current bread "n" butter Ford Mondeos crucified by a terribly underpowered 1.6l

Thing is though - we now tax cars on CO2 making small capacity petrols redundant. I know Toyota will bring it in but that doesn't change the fact that since July there has been a big swing towards diesel, with 85% of Fords now filling up at the black pump rather than the green one.

The 2.0 D-4D will be the best selling model, and that has 126 bhp and 221 lb ft of torque. It's also in band B rather than band C for motor tax and VRT. As the 1.6 will be rather powerful for its size, I would imagine the price gap between it and the 2.0 D-4D will not be that big and hence the 2.0 D-4D should be only a fraction dearer.

S.I.R

meh, its just like the newwerish primera... it goes on you...

alo1587

Looks like a lexus is220 from the wing mirrors back.I like it....but only from the side...

scargill

alo1587 wrote: »

Looks like a lexus is220 from the wing mirrors back.I like it....but only from the side...

I agree - i have attached a pic of them both from the side.

homer90

alo1587 wrote: »

Looks like a lexus is220 from the wing mirrors back.I like it....but only from the side...

+1

Looks ok from side profile.. but from any other angle it looks.............. well ..........POO !!

Top Dog

I think straight on view of the rear is the only angle I could like it from

Barr

They have done their best to make the front of the cars look as ugly as possibe - shame really as the rest of the car looks good

The Real B-man

Where the Accelerator Pedal

towel401

The Real B-man wrote: »

Where the Accelerator Pedal

there isn't any
the car chooses to toodle along at whatever speed emits the least CO2 or 10km below the speed limit for safety reasons. This is to make Biffo feel better about himself

Every time you push an accelerator a panda dies!

ninty9er

Do I detect from the photos that it will have an electronic rather than centre console parking brake?

Cookie_Monster

Ugh, I think i just threw up a little!

What an awful looking car

MarkR

The Real B-man wrote: »

Where the Accelerator Pedal

Exactly what I was thinking. Perhaps it is powered by that new smugness drive. The smarmier the grin, the faster they go.

Marcus.Aurelius

Why don't they copy the Aurion from Australia. Nice car all-round with a really good set of V6 engines, there's no decent big toyota in Ireland anymore.

Top Dog

Ah there is, it just happens to be called a Lexus

Marcus.Aurelius

Top Dog wrote: »

Ah there is, it just happens to be called a Lexus

The badge costs alone deter me somewhat! :eek:

I just want a big toyota for reliability and comfort. I don't want the lexus stuff, whenever it does need new parts, the sight of that badge is enough to add zeros to the prices.

Tragedy

Ugly from any angle.

From the front, bonnet+bumper+grille are ugly.

From side profile, bonnet looks too tall/bulky, and front lights are too big, rear ends far too suddenly and again, lights too bulky. And the proportion just looks all out.

From rear: Plain.

Gumbo

Joker wrote: »

The badge costs alone deter me somewhat! :eek:

I just want a big toyota for reliability and comfort. I don't want the lexus stuff, whenever it does need new parts, the sight of that badge is enough to add zeros to the prices.[/QUOTE]

i would kill for a 2004 shape camry with the 2.2 D4D engine in it

Marcus.Aurelius

kceire wrote: »

i would kill for a 2004 shape camry with the 2.2 D4D engine in it

/Sighs deeply with smile


Me too.

Berty

I think its a nice looking car.

You lot would think it looked better if its was black.

Ok I will never drive one, sticking with the A4 or new Passatt CC but if the recession hits my company hard and my new car needs to be cheaper I would have no issue driving that.

pburns

The new Avensis is not nearly as bad as some are making out, a big improvement on the old model.

Not my thing but that's because i am a enthusiast and like something a little different. It's better than the Mondeo that's for sure.

I think the antipathy towards it has a lot to do with snobbery...

The Real B-man

Joker wrote: »

The badge costs alone deter me somewhat! :eek:

I just want a big toyota for reliability and comfort. I don't want the lexus stuff, whenever it does need new parts, the sight of that badge is enough to add zeros to the prices.

Altezza :pac:

Top Dog

pburns wrote: »

The new Avensis is not nearly as bad as some are making out, a big improvement on the old model.

Lets be honest, it couldn't have gotten much worse. The old model was a bland car in a market infested with bland cars.

I don't like the front at all, the slab of a bonnet. It could look better in a darker colour, so I'll reserve judgement until I see it in the metal. From the rear I think it looks very similar to the newer Lexus IS range which is no bad thing really.

E92

Toyota have now released the prices and specs for the Avensis in the UK.

It's at least £1,000 more than the old model, but comes with more goodies.

The basic T2 model has an electric hand brake, an alarm, heated electric mirrors, automatic door locking above 20 km/h and a more advanced type of ESP as standard(previously the base model didn't have these features) in addition to what the Aura model had.

The mid range TR comes with essentially the same equipment as the outgoing Luna model here, but the auto dimming rear view mirror is gone, however Bluetooth and MP3 connectivity are now standard, and so are automatic lights, 17 instead of 16 inch alloys, as well as electric lumbar support adjustment, not to mention the extra stuff mentioned above for the T2 model.

So the second from the bottom trim in the UK has the same spec as the second from the top over here! Nice one:rolleyes:!

The next trim up is the T4, and that gives you Satnav, leather, auto dimming rear view mirror, electric front seats and keyless go.

So everything you could ever possibly need really!

But if that's not enough the top line T Spirit has 18 inch alloys, parking sensors, adaptive lighting, Xenon headlights, and a better stereo.

The 2.0 D-4D is £780 more than the 1.8, and the 2.2 D-4D 150 is £830 more than the 2.0 D-4D.

That of course is for the UK.

Looking forward to seeing how much of all these goodies are going to be removed for Ireland:rolleyes:. I'd say the electric hand brake is definitely not going to be standard, the alarm will probably go, and no doubt the better ESP system will be removed going on Toyota Ireland's past form of removing safety equipment for the Irish market too. After all they decided to remove aircon for the new iQ even though it's in the cheapest VRT band and of course aircon is standard in the UK too:rolleyes:.

Anyone else want to take bets on what else Toyota Ireland will remove for the Irish market:D:rolleyes:? Prizes for the closest guess:P!

And of course no doubt we'll be getting the 1.6 as well for good measure:rolleyes:! But I bet the 2.2 D-4D 180 won't be coming in (not that I'd buy it, but that's neither here nor there), in what, the company's flagship car here?

And will there be a trim level equivalent to the T Spirit model? If I were a betting man, I'd bet my left leg there won't be, in fact if we get something close to the T4 trim we'd be doing well. In fairness the T Spirit's spec level is overkill, I'll admit that much:D!

mickdw

No attempt to change image or improve materials at toyota then. Bland plastic heap of sh1te

AugustusMaximus

The ugliest part of that car must surely be the interior. Looked likes something from 10 years ago.

homer90

Fugly ............. :rolleyes:

Side on ....... just about ok |(is220)

slimjimmc

Bonnet ---- bad yeuuuk
Interior

---

hideously dull.

Holsten

Horrible.

mumhaabu

I can't wait to see Clarkson rip it to shreds, I'd like if they actually drive a tank over one like Mr. Beans Mini. P.S. Just because Toyota sponsor Munster Rugby is no reason to buy these buckets of sh1te.

bazz26

mumhaabu wrote: »

I can't wait to see Clarkson rip it to shreds, I'd like if they actually drive a tank over one like Mr. Beans Mini. P.S. Just because Toyota sponsor Munster Rugby is no reason to buy these buckets of sh1te.

Opel sponsored the Irish soccer team for years and people still bought that rubbish thinking they were supporting the team.

The same way people still buy VWs because they think they are a superior quality product.

It just proves that alot of people are gullable when it comes to cars.

ninty9er

I thought there was a more recent thread but I've searched 5 pages and can't find it. Anyhow It's here:

Strange that the biggest polluter in the range is 169g/km diesel auto. Toyota, in their neverending attempt to please everyone:rolleyes: have reintroduced the bog spec Terra last seen in 2002 and placed, upgraded the Strata to similar levels as the old Luna, and put the new Luna somewhere in between it and the Sol.

Price wise they'll fail to woo Accord drivers, though the Luna 1.8 Multitronic S looks good at €34k, but is on the bottom limit of band D so €448 a year, but still better than the old 1.6 manual. All manuals are now 6 speed.

Terra

* Black front centre console finish * Radio/CD with 6 speakers (MP3 WMA compatible) * Dark grey fabric interior trim * Active front headrests (2 way) * Electric, heated rear view mirrors * 60/40 split rear seat configuration * Air-conditioning * 16" steel wheels with wheel caps * Urethane steering wheel with audio switches * Emergency Brake Signal * VSC+ * Front power windows * Electric parking brake * Automatic door locking function * Front console storage box with lid Airbags (including drivers knee airbag and front side airbags and curtain airbags) * ISOFIX child seat fixing points * 6 speed manual transmission * Gear shift indicator * Aux-in plug for external audio devices

Aura

* 16" alloy wheels * Front fog lamps

Strata

* Automatic dual zone climate control * Strata dark grey fabric interior trim * Titanium tinted lower centre console * 4-way front headrests * Leather steering wheel and gear knob * 2-way power lumbar support (D) * Front and rear power windows * Electrochromatic rear view mirror * Power folding external mirrors * Rain sensor * Dusk sensor

Luna

* 17" alloy wheels * Smart Entry & Start system * Bluetooth® mobile phone interface * Bluetooth® music streaming to audio system* * Cruise control with speed limiter§ * Charcoal graphics centre console * Luna fabric interior trim (dark grey or greige) * Back window sunshade

Sol

* Leather interior trim (black or greige) * Heated & power front seats with two memory settings * Electronic steering column * Rear parking sensors/rear parking camera * HID Bi-Xenon headlights & AFS * Headlight cleaners * Navigation system (HDD) 7" 3D colour touch screen * Premium (11 spk) audio system, 10 GB music storage

Not bad once you get to Strata, the first 2 are practically redundant.

Also came across this in the hunt for this thread

Volvoboy wrote: »

http://homepages.iol.ie/~omara/omm/toyota.html

Ya'd think they'd updated the site after 12 years:eek:

As pointed out linky:p Though the web presence (which I've offered to sort for a fee) is still crap...Carzone stuff is useless.

old boy wrote: »

volvo boy you will have de relation after you, you have been warned

Here I am...2 weeks late though...was out of the country for new years:pac:

DJ Hafez wrote: »

My aunt used to drive that yellow Mini....how Ireland has changed, imagine a MDs wife driving something like that these days.

L-M

Not bad standard spec, although we still haven't got a car to come standard with alloys. Strata seems to be the mode to go for, any prices?

ninty9er

Saloon
1.6 Valvetronic
Terra - €25,565 - Band C (€302)
Aura - €26,475 - Band C (€302)
Strata - €27,990 - Band C (€302)

1.8 Valvetronic
Terra - €26,860 - Band C (€302)
Aura - €27,770 - Band C (€302)
Luna - €31,070 - Band C (€302)
Luna Multidrive - €34,600 - Band D (€448)

2.0 Valvetronic
Sol - €42,660 - Band D (€448)
Sol Multidrive - €44,850 - Band D (€448)

2.0 D-4D 125
Terra - €26,015 - Band B (€156)
Aura - €26,880 - Band B (€156)
Strata - €28,320 - Band B (€156)

2.2 D-4D 150
Luna - €33,600 - Band C (€302)

2.2 D-CAT 150
Luna Auto - €37,650 - Band D (€448*)


Tourer
1.8 Valvetronic
Aura - €29,060 - Band D (€448)

2.0 D-4D 125
Aura - €28,100 - Band B (€156)



* Pending confirmation

Personally I'd go for the Luna Auto.

Seats black or **greige**:rolleyes:

Since when is greige a colour.

Went and had a look today. Nice car. Liking the centre console box mechanism, parking brake is easier operated than the Passat and even the Terra has a LCD screen based manual aircon as opposed to dial graphic. Terra hubs are woeful though, absolutely rotten.

Honda08

ninty9er wrote: »

Saloon
1.6 Valvetronic
Terra - €25,565 - Band C (€302)
Aura - €26,475 - Band C (€302)
Strata - €27,990 - Band C (€302)

1.8 Valvetronic
Terra - €26,860 - Band C (€302)
Aura - €27,770 - Band C (€302)
Luna - €31,070 - Band C (€302)
Luna Multidrive - €34,600 - Band D (€448)

2.0 Valvetronic
Sol - €42,660 - Band D (€448)
Sol Multidrive - €44,850 - Band D (€448)

2.0 D-4D 125
Terra - €26,015 - Band B (€156)
Aura - €26,880 - Band B (€156)
Strata - €28,320 - Band B (€156)

2.2 D-4D 150
Luna - €33,600 - Band C (€302)

2.2 D-CAT 150
Luna Auto - €37,650 - Band D (€448*)


Tourer
1.8 Valvetronic
Aura - €29,060 - Band D (€448)

2.0 D-4D 125
Aura - €28,100 - Band B (€156)



* Pending confirmation

Personally I'd go for the Luna Auto.

Seats black or **greige**:rolleyes:

Since when is greige a colour.

Went and had a look today. Nice car. Liking the centre console box mechanism, parking brake is easier operated than the Passat and even the Terra has a LCD screen based manual aircon as opposed to dial graphic. Terra hubs are woeful though, absolutely rotten.

typical toyota, only a bog basic spec available in tourer/estate!!

i wonder how much cheaper it would be to source directly from uk, at least you would get a decent spec in the tourer!

peasant

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Last 4 posts removed from even older thread and tagged onto this one

ooohhh ...AVENSIS ...*tries to contain excitement*

maidhc

* Black front centre console finish
* Radio/CD with 6 speakers (MP3 WMA compatible)
* Dark grey fabric interior trim
* Active front headrests (2 way)
* Electric, heated rear view mirrors
* 60/40 split rear seat configuration
* Air-conditioning
* 16" steel wheels with wheel caps
* Urethane steering wheel with audio switches
* Emergency Brake Signal
* VSC+
* Front power windows
* Electric parking brake
* Automatic door locking function
* Front console storage box with lid
Airbags (including drivers knee airbag and front side airbags and curtain airbags)
* ISOFIX child seat fixing points
* 6 speed manual transmission
* Gear shift indicator
* Aux-in plug for external audio devices

Dear God. More or less the same as the LX spec Mk1 Mondeo, which itself was hardly generous.

ninty9er

maidhc wrote: »

Dear God. More or less the same as the LX spec Mk1 Mondeo, which itself was hardly generous.

The MK1 Mondeo didn't even have electric front windows or central locking as standard. It's par for the course really.

maidhc

ninty9er wrote: »

The MK1 Mondeo didn't even have electric front windows or central locking as standard. It's par for the course really.

Nope, the Mk1 mondeo LX had electric front windows, central locking, sunroof and an airbag as standard from 1993. A few really really basic (e.g. below LX) were sold, but were a special order only.

ninty9er

maidhc wrote: »

Nope, the Mk1 mondeo LX had electric front windows, central locking, sunroof and an airbag as standard from 1993. A few really really basic (e.g. below LX) were sold, but were a special order only.

There must have been more of the "specials" than LX models so going on what I've seen over the years. Even the MkII aspen lacked both of those features.

maidhc

ninty9er wrote: »

There must have been more of the "specials" than LX models so going on what I've seen over the years. Even the MkII aspen lacked both of those features.

The "aspen" was the bottom of the range MkII. I only ever saw one Mk1 mondeo with wind up windows, and I would have been watching, having had one in the family for 14 years! The majority were LX, while most in the UK were GLX spec.

But we are going off point.

Toyota were still fitting a Casette, 2 airbags, no aircon and no sunroof in the 2002 model Avensis terra.. and nothing has changed.

Why do they "boast" about a utherane steering wheel in the new model? Are they for real? Why not just say fisher price plastic?

Flesh Gorden

I hate the things

Anytime I see one without a Taxi number - I think it must be a Hackney
or a lender from an insurance company - who else would buy one?


Apart form one my neighbours who have upgraded their Avensis every year since 04 - roughly around May

And apart from the first one they got - they always go for the exact same flat shade of light blue every year - they never wash it -
let it get absolutely filthy - abuse it for the year and then swap it in for the newer model
they've had the latest one for the last seven months - so I'll be seeing that 09 pretty soon - same color

I can't imagine the amount of debt they must have because of it

Its usually parked next to my 97' Escort which looks brand new next to theirs after a month or two


But I am the type who can't see the point in buying new cars - especially for the same model and also when you consider you could buy and insure a 03' Alpina for a lot less money and sell it on for close to what you paid for it






.

bazz26

maidhc wrote: »

Dear God. More or less the same as the LX spec Mk1 Mondeo, which itself was hardly generous.

That basic spec is pretty similar to the current Mondeo Style, the previous Mondeo LX had manually operated door mirrors up until around 2006 despite cheaper Focus and Fiesta models having heated door mirrors for years. And I seen a good few MkI Mondeo Aspens about over the years, easy give away was the lack of rubber mouldings along the side of the doors.

Basic models are exactly that "basic", designed specifically to get people to buy the car who are on a strict budget or the marketing people would hope that the poor spec would persuade people to pay for the next spec up. If current middle of the range models became entry level models then we would be complaining they were too expensive. You have to draw the line somewhere.