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Is there a table of best rated solicitors in Dublin?

  • 11-10-2008 5:42pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,738 ✭✭✭


    just to see...

    cheers.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 699 ✭✭✭hada


    www.legal500.com

    more for the big corporate solicitors though.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,738 ✭✭✭Jay D


    yeah thanks looking for more criminal if you know any


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,950 ✭✭✭Milk & Honey


    There is no table as such. You can do internet searches to find names of high earners under the Criminal Legal Aid scheme. Here is one
    Solicitors:

    1. Terence Lyons, €1,114,382

    2. Michael Staines, €1,022,677

    3. John M Quinn, €694,949

    4. Michael Hanahoe, €540,860

    5. John Feaheny, €503,191

    6. Terence Hanahoe, €467,828

    7. Phillip Hannon, €461,323

    8. Frank Buttimer, €401,470

    9. Donal Daly, €392,688

    10. Ted McCarthy, €359,948.

    These would be specialist criminal solicitors althought there is no rating as such and the figures can be misleading by reason of the fact that in a practise of 10 solicitors one solicitor might be nominated for all the legal aid. If you are seeking the services of a solicitor you should not rely on a league table. There are solicitors who are good in particular courts and at particular levels in the system. Some solicitors are good at mitigation pleas when the person is pleading guilty but are not great at finding technical defences. Some can be too aggressive and get people into worse trouble.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,738 ✭✭✭Jay D


    these are legal aid mostly in fairness, I am looking for best performers...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,382 ✭✭✭✭AARRRGH


    I've used TJ McIntyre before. He's a lecturer in UCD and specialises in criminal law/internet law.

    He's very good.

    http://www.tjmcintyre.com/


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,950 ✭✭✭Milk & Honey


    Jay D wrote: »
    these are legal aid mostly in fairness, I am looking for best performers...

    Any solicitor who is not doing legal aid is not doing a lot of criminal work.
    When you say performers what do you mean. Do you mean in court or dealing with guards or advising on law or having an efficient office?
    There are horses for courses. If you are facing a charge on indictment a lot will depend on the counsel involved.
    there is one particular firm and people have been released immediately from garda custody when they ask to telephone that firm.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,738 ✭✭✭Jay D


    Any solicitor who is not doing legal aid is not doing a lot of criminal work.
    When you say performers what do you mean. Do you mean in court or dealing with guards or advising on law or having an efficient office?
    There are horses for courses. If you are facing a charge on indictment a lot will depend on the counsel involved.
    there is one particular firm and people have been released immediately from garda custody when they ask to telephone that firm.

    I'm sorry I mean performers that win like. Don't get me wrong I am not saying that any of the above are bad but they are rated on incomes, fuelled by a mass legal aid fund. Nothing there to suggest they are good performers.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,584 ✭✭✭✭Steve


    You mean a league of ambulance chasers who cherry pick their cases???
    Or a league of solicitors winning high profile cases??

    I don't think either exists outside of the minds of their peers.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,157 ✭✭✭Johnny Utah


    Yeah, rateyoursolicitor.com

    and, it's fairly accurate too!


  • Legal Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 5,400 Mod ✭✭✭✭Maximilian


    Yeah, rateyoursolicitor.com

    and, it's fairly accurate too!

    Its anything but accurate. Yes there's a few dodge guys there of course but I would say a large majority have no business being mentioned there at all.

    What you get is people who don't understand what they are talking about wrongly bad mouthing solicitors. People with large chips on their shoulder about lawyers generally. You get people who have lost cases, posting defamatory remarks against the opposing solicitor or their own one because they lost. Disgruntled former employees getting a spot of revenge. All anonymous. A mate of mine had a number of defamatory comments posted about him on that site by an ex-girlfriend after he broke up with her. Then on the flip side you get solicitors giving themselves rave reviews.

    I would take anything written on that site with a pint of salt. Just read the ranting posts by the guy who runs it. It's a defamation pit masquerading as a bastion of free speech, hiding in another jurisdiction to avoid being sued by the people it has wronged.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,157 ✭✭✭Johnny Utah


    Er, my last post was a joke. I thought I didn't need to include a smiley because it was fairly obvious I was being sarcastic.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,738 ✭✭✭Jay D


    Er, my last post was a joke. I thought I didn't need to include a smiley because it was fairly obvious I was being sarcastic.

    I knew that too, that's why I didn't even reply to it.

    I haven't gained much knowledge from this thread to date....


  • Legal Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 5,400 Mod ✭✭✭✭Maximilian


    Er, my last post was a joke. I thought I didn't need to include a smiley because it was fairly obvious I was being sarcastic.

    Apologies. I just despise that site.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,584 ✭✭✭✭Steve


    Er, my last post was a joke. I thought I didn't need to include a smiley because it was fairly obvious I was being sarcastic.
    I fought long and hard for that little blue sarcastic fellow and despite the odds I won his case and secured his freedom on boards. (didn't get costs mind but that's another story) so I'd appreciate it if he actually got put into appropriate use the odd time...:mad:*





    *please don't take this post seriously.:rolleyes:


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,950 ✭✭✭Milk & Honey


    Jay D wrote: »
    I'm sorry I mean performers that win like. Don't get me wrong I am not saying that any of the above are bad but they are rated on incomes, fuelled by a mass legal aid fund. Nothing there to suggest they are good performers.

    They are the people chosen by the most serious criminals to represent them. It may be crude but the legal aid earnings are the nearest thing to a user satisfaction survey.
    Some solicitors get barristers to do the advocacy in the District Courts so it depends on how good they are at picking barristers. Some solicitors do a small number of cases in restricted areas so they might be good at drink driving but not so hot on theft. Very few solicitors do any advocacy in the Circuit or Central Criminal Courts.
    In the District Court a win is often more a question of which judge is hearing the case than which solicitor is defending.
    There was a solicitor who was very aggressive in challenging the guards. He won quite a number of cases but the ones he lost led to much bigger sentences for his clients. Some times a good solicitor is one who recognises a hopeless case and minimises the damage with an early guilty plea.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 142 ✭✭ALFIET


    ratemysolicitor.com


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,169 ✭✭✭dats_right


    Jay D wrote: »
    just to see...

    cheers.

    Answer to your orginal question is NO. We're not talking about the Premiership 3 points for a win, 1 for a draw sort of stuff. How on earth could you compile such a table?

    Re Rate my solicitor thingy: it is run by nutcases for nutcases, the closest thing to a table is good old fashioned word of mouth.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 142 ✭✭ALFIET


    totally disagree with you on the ratemysolicitor.com

    look how accurate it was about the M Lynn bloke... for years before he was caught!!

    Dont knock it...


  • Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 10,581 Mod ✭✭✭✭Robbo


    dats_right wrote: »
    Answer to your orginal question is NO. We're not talking about the Premiership 3 points for a win, 1 for a draw sort of stuff. How on earth could you compile such a table?
    Would the top 4 each year then qualify to practice in the European courts? :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,048 ✭✭✭Amazotheamazing


    ALFIET wrote: »
    totally disagree with you on the ratemysolicitor.com

    look how accurate it was about the M Lynn bloke... for years before he was caught!!

    Dont knock it...

    Well that's proof then.

    Sadly Dat's Right is right, it's run by headcases for headcases. Rely on word of mouth imo.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 142 ✭✭ALFIET


    all i know is that anyone recommended to me for conveyancing has always had a good rating on that website. But i would never just trust the website alone. Practical experiences are a much better form of rating.


  • Legal Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 5,400 Mod ✭✭✭✭Maximilian


    Sure somebody like Lynn got a bad rating. In some cases you would have to say there's no smoke without fire. The bad solicitors I know do not have good ratings. The problem is many extremely good ones have bad ratings too.

    That website is in no way reliable and to echo what Amazotheamazing said, it's fueled by nutjobs & pure malice, hiding their website away in the U.S. to evade defamation laws here.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 142 ✭✭Murphdog94


    I was a big fan of The Family Practice for Family Law matters.

    https://thefamilypractice.ie/



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