Neighbour topping up our bin

simon333

Hey,

by coincidence I checked to see if our bin was full or collected on collection day. It hadn't yet been collected, but it was also topped up with a larged filled bin liner: someone else's rubbish. I'm assuming it's one of my neighbours. We went through it, no letters with addresses to be found Would the council take the rubbish away from me if I complained?

I know the easiest thing is to allow the rubbish just to be collected from our bin the next time. But the neighbour could easily be filling up our bin during the day time before collection every week. I'm usually gone to work during the day so I could have no idea.

Simon

homer911

If the rubbish is in your bin, you are responsible for it. Are you paying by weight or by lift? If not paying by weight, whats the issue? If paying by lift, dont put it out until its fill - that would prevent anyone topping it up.

When DLRCoCo introduced pay by weight & lift, they recommended someone who could install "gravity locks" to stop this practice - you could give them a call if it helps

simon333

Thanks for the info. I'll call the bin company about it.

We pay per weight.

Húrin

this is why pay by weight is crap. We pay by lift (DCC) and me and me neighbours put stuff in each others bins all the time if one of us has too much. It's no problem.

10-10-20

Mine is only ever left out when it's brimmed & compacted.
We keep the lift charges down to a minimum.

With Panda, the max bill had been €15.60. With DunLaoghaire CC, we usually paid €60 for the same duration.
My max lift charge with them for one bin was €22!

donaghs

Looks like there's very little you can do except only out your bin out when its completely full. I pay per lift (DCC) only leave bin out when its full to brim.

I did once have to ask a neighbour not to put his overflow into my black bin (there's only space to keep bins in front garden - within reach of a neighbour) , but he said it was just a once-off and didn't do it again.

homer911

Off topic (sorry) but I see in DLR that Greenstar are touting for business against the council and Panda by offering no standing charge for the first year (€56) - I'm tempted, but dont want all the hassle with changing bins - anyone tried to use this to negotiate with their existing service supplier?

limklad

simon333 wrote: »

Hey,

by coincidence I checked to see if our bin was full or collected on collection day. It hadn't yet been collected, but it was also topped up with a larged filled bin liner: someone else's rubbish. I'm assuming it's one of my neighbours. We went through it, no letters with addresses to be found Would the council take the rubbish away from me if I complained?

I know the easiest thing is to allow the rubbish just to be collected from our bin the next time. But the neighbour could easily be filling up our bin during the day time before collection every week. I'm usually gone to work during the day so I could have no idea.

Simon

If they do it once and got away with it, they will definitely try it again.
If your neighbour have done this, then they have destroyed good neighbourly relations. Beware it might not be a neighbour, I have seen others not from the area do this on unsuspecting neighbourhoods. It an easy pull up dump and drive away. If it not your neighbour (I.e. Stranger) go straight and report to the Council.

Best to park your car for one day (during the night) put it else where to make them think you have gone away early. Then from upstairs room with good view of the bin with a camera (Best to have a camera/Camcorder with the correct Date & Time included on Photo/film) and wait for your bin to be collected. Practice you photography on people passing outside and view the photo's to make sure you can easily identify them. Take photo's of contents when you left your bin out and after the bad deed was done.

Make sure the bin is not near neighbours bin and cannot be mistakenly as their bin. If they drop it in, take multiple photos. Do not react to the neighbour at that, stay hidden. Wait again another day and nab him/her again with another set of photo's, if possible do this for a few Days.
Then Send a polite message & Just Keep it simple "To the House Owner, Please do not put anything in my bin again" also keep a Written log of events with previous suspicions and provable acts and copies of your message to the neighbour.

When your Waste bill comes around again, Send your neighbour an invoice for the bill or Send a polite message, Please do not put anything in my bin again,there is a fine for illegal Dumping!! Dumping into your bin is still illegal dumping.

Keep your photo's as evidence, and keep separate copies. Do not say that you have taken some photos as evidence. Get their reaction and insist on them paying the extra charge but do not try to blackmail them (It will ultimately backfire on you). Most people plead guilty and pay up and will not do it again.
S/he will get the message, I believe there is a fine for Dumping!!

If they continue, or deny it then you will need the photo's for the more aggressive one's who will deny the sun, moon and stars, once they do. Tell them that fine and walk away Do not get into a verbal fight. No matter how mad/angry you should Never ever reveal you have evidence and then let the authorities (Council) deal with them. They will Falsely believe they will get away with it for they will have a false believe that it is your word versus theirs. They (Council) will get the guards/investigator to investigate and you will hand over a copies of the Photo's and statements.

If you do not get responds from the Council, send them another message and keep all reference of contact with your written evidence. If you do not get a response from the council, then contact your Area councillor about the matter.

citizensinformation.ie wrote:

http://www.citizensinformation.ie/categories/environment/environmental-protection/litter_law

The litter laws have increased the powers of your local authority to combat the problem of illegal dumping of refuse and rubbish. If you see someone dumping illegally, you should report the matter to your local authority who will investigate and take any necessary enforcement action.
Alternatively you can report illegal dumping to a 24 hour lo-call telephone number 1850 365 121. Local authorities, the Environmental Protection Agency and an Garda Síochána will follow up on the information given as appropriate. Information that you give can be treated confidentially although you are encouraged to give your contact details as authorities may wish to follow-up with you in relation to the investigation of illegal dumping.
If your local authority finds material that is illegally dumped and establishes the identity of the owner of the material, that person will have a case to answer without necessarily having to be caught in the act. In addition, extra powers are also available to your local authority to require a householder or business operator to indicate how and where they are disposing of their waste. This is particularly relevant if the householder or business owner is not availing of a refuse collection service or is not bringing their waste to an authorised disposal facility.

I know what I say above sound extreme but it better to be prepared than not. By Dumping in your bin, they are in effect robbing you of your money. For you will probably paying extra charge for waste and they will pay nothing for dumping at your cost.

fastrac

You can get a gravity lock that will only open when the bins upside down.(works normally with key) if you dont want to get involved with an abusive neighbour

blackbox

It looks like neither you nor your neighbour have enough rubbish to fill a bin.

Why don't you do a deal with your neighbour whereby you have one bin between you and share the costs?

This is hardly an issue that warrants getting in a tizzy over it.

Run_to_da_hills

One time a sack of rubbish was left in our bin, we rooted through it carefully with gloves and found a turned down application for a job with the guys name and address on it. We drafted up a reply to the person telling them that his applicaton was reconsidered and that he was to call to the office and ask for a mister Mike H**t at the reception desk. Im am sure this person never did this again.