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Supermarket raider stabbed up to five times

  • 10-10-2008 11:42am
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,398 ✭✭✭


    http://www.examiner.ie/irishexaminer/pages/story.aspx-qqqg=ireland-qqqm=ireland-qqqa=ireland-qqqid=74496-qqqx=1.asp


    A RAIDER died after he was stabbed up to five times in the stomach when he was attacked by locals following a botched supermarket robbery.


    The man, named yesterday as 23-year-old Paul Howe from Tallaght, died in hospital just hours after he and a fellow raider were cornered in the car park of SuperValu in Killester in Dublin at 8.30pm on Wednesday.

    It is understood the two men, at least one of whom was armed with a knife, had demanded cash from the newsagents’ counter in the supermarket, but when they left the store they were pursued by security staff and a group of bystanders.
    In the ensuing altercation one of the raiders jumped over a wall and managed to escape through an adjoining garden, getting onto nearby Dunseverick Road and running away.

    The other man was stabbed in the stomach and may also have been hit with a heavy bar. Gardaí had been alerted to the robbery just minutes beforehand and on arriving at the scene found the man lying at the rear of the carpark.

    He was taken to Beaumont Hospital and later died.

    One man in his 30s, believed to be a security guard, was arrested by gardaí as part of their investigation.

    Yesterday morning, another man, in his 20s and believed to be the boyfriend of a girl working in the supermarket, was also arrested.

    Both were being held at Raheny Garda Station yesterday under Section 4 of the Criminal Justice Act.

    Shocked locals continued to gather at the scene yesterday while Garda technical experts examined the scene.

    Many people living in the area said they were appalled that such an incident could take place in what is normally a quiet suburb.

    Local resident and Fine Gael Dublin City Councillor Gerry Breen said the incident was “a terrible thing” and said members of staff and the public involved in the confrontation with the raider may have acted out of adrenaline and fear.

    “I am not trying to justify it, but adrenaline is a funny thing,” he said. “If the crime was not perpetrated [in the first place] there would be no fatality now.”







    Quite interesting read there now. Why did they attack him? I wonder if they would be charged with Manslaughter


Comments

  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    There was a thread about this yesterday....and it got deleted.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,746 ✭✭✭✭Galvasean


    I make deliveries to that shop.

    ...note to self, make sure to give them the discount...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,808 ✭✭✭✭chin_grin


    I said that's knife, and as funny as it may seem
    Some people get their kicks,
    Stompin' on a dream
    But I don't let it, let it get me down,
    'Cause this fine ol' world it keeps spinning around


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    MIN2511 wrote: »
    Why did they attack him?

    Why did he attack them first is the real question tbh.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,398 ✭✭✭MIN2511


    Why did he attack them first is the real question tbh.


    It's money, i don't think whatever he they stole is worth his life now....


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,497 ✭✭✭✭Dragan


    There you go folks, whatever you do, do NOT stand up to the scum who try and take advantage of you.

    You will be arrested.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 23,556 ✭✭✭✭Sir Digby Chicken Caesar


    ooooh, wheni heard this on the news I thought one of the people who chased the robbers had been stabbed fatally and I thought it was sad. Glad to hear it was one of the robbers.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,496 ✭✭✭Mr. Presentable


    So it's true then, bit by bit Tallaght is becoming a better place


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,705 ✭✭✭✭Tigger


    you will notic ethe other raider has escaped and yet they have managed to fand the fellas who bet them

    sick i tells ya

    if someone threatened my misses with a knife .......

    poxy law


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    MIN2511 wrote: »
    It's money, i don't think whatever he they stole is worth his life now....

    And if she hadnt handed over the money to him when he asked would he have placed such a high value on her life?


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 34,567 ✭✭✭✭Biggins


    No tears lost here for a robber who uses a knife and terror to extract money.
    I've sat on an number of juries. I wouldn't find the person that killed him, guilty if it was self-defence in tackling him.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,808 ✭✭✭Ste.phen


    I presume the other thread was deleted because of the number of people who had first and second-hand knowledge of the events saying things that could get boardsie in trouble?

    T'was good to find out what actually happened instead of the blurb on the news though


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,049 ✭✭✭Crea


    The robbers threaten the lives of the people in the shop and then gets stabbed.
    Karma will get you everytime folks:P


  • Subscribers Posts: 19,425 ✭✭✭✭Oryx


    Dragan wrote: »
    There you go folks, whatever you do, do NOT stand up to the scum who try and take advantage of you.

    You will be arrested.
    On a lesser scale, when I worked in a jewellery store, we were always told never to challenge a thief agressively or touch them, or we would in all likelyhood get accused of assault.

    I know we cant all become vigilantes, and no one deserves to be killed OR inadvertently become a murderer, but there is a touch of 'live by the sword, die by the sword' about this story. As the councillor said, if he hadntve done the raid, he would still be alive.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,497 ✭✭✭✭Dragan


    If you involve a weapon into a physical confrontation then you lose the right to complain should that be used against you imho.

    Of course, he can't complain now that he is dead. I anxiously wait for interviews with his family telling us how nice and sound he was, how he was such a caring person and they miss him.

    And this is their right, he was their family.

    He was also a thief who clearly had no issue using a weapon to make people afriad for their lives and to get what he wanted.

    Karma can deliver rough justice.


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