Zombie Survival Guide.

I've just started reading the Zombie survival Guide by Max Brooks.

Seems good thus far, some useful insights on how to survive the impending Zombie Apocalypse.

Just wondering has anybody else read it, what are your thoughts?

thefinalstage

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I've just started reading the Zombie survival Guide by Max Brooks.

Seems good thus far, some useful insights on how to survive the impending Zombie Apocalypse.

Just wondering has anybody else read it, what are your thoughts?

MY only comment: Oxygen is needed to provide the body with a certain chemical which allows the muscles to move. The zombies in that book do not breath, logically then they cannot move.

Another small point, probably deserving of it's own thread, but not sure if it's been done before.

As per this book, Zombies have zero intelligence.

However evolution depends on mutation. Now as "Solanum", which creates Zombies, is a virus, it should be capable of mutation. Now I appreciate that it changes the brain into "a new organ", but the brain as such is still utilised.

Any mutation which allows (even a small amount of) intelligence would be a distinct advantage, and would probably be passed on, eventually displacing the original virus.

This could well mutate again and again, allowing for greater and greater intelligence.

Eventually we could see a hierarchy of organised Zombies, even a society of them! For the vast majority of our history, we've shared this planet with one or more sentient varieties of human. This could be the next phase.

Homo Zombius, perhaps???

Kiith

Reading this book is a pre-requisite for posting on this forum. You broke that rule, but i think we can let you away with it as you are currently reading it. You have been warned...although i have no power whatsoever to do so. You have been warned.

Anyhoo, fantastic book. Read World War Z after this. Its even better.

Kiith

Kiith wrote: »

Reading this book is a pre-requisite for posting on this forum.

Sorry - but as you said, I am reading it!

Kiith wrote: »

Anyhoo, fantastic book. Read World War Z after this. Its even better.

Fair enough, I will. Can't prepare yourself enough, after all!

But what about all my thoughts I posted in my last thread???

Kiith

Not all virus's mutate though. And maybe its the perfect virus. No cure, no vaccine, 100% contagion. I guess it being airborne would be better, but then we wouldnt have any survivors. As for their 'intelligence', i would call it more instinct then intelligence. And as for an organised society of zombies, watch the piece of crap Land of the Dead, and just forget about it.

smegmar

Is it better to hold up in a fortress and defend until help comes or keep moving in some armored truck or something

irishbran77

World War Z is definitely a book I'd recommend, even, god help me, as a person who never really was interested in the undead before. But of course a movie is soon to be made from that book despite there being a dozen different stories, all of which are great by themselves. Should we be excited?

Spyral

MY only comment: Oxygen is needed to provide the body with a certain chemical which allows the muscles to move. The zombies in that book do not breath, logically then they cannot move.

wrong, adenosinetriphosphate (atp) can be made via anerobic processes.

Drunkmonkey79

Really good book but WWZ is 100 times better! Check it out!!

Organised zombies. . . . . not sure if it could happen but i agree they looked **** in L.O.T.D.

cyberwolf77

irishbran77 wrote: »

World War Z is definitely a book I'd recommend, even, god help me, as a person who never really was interested in the undead before. But of course a movie is soon to be made from that book despite there being a dozen different stories, all of which are great by themselves. Should we be excited?

We could, but why set ourselves up for the crushing disapointment when Hollywood guts the entire premise the book is built on and turns out yet another p.o.s. summer "blockbuster".

dara95

i picked the book up in easons!

its a classic i was so interseted i had read most of the book but then they through me out!!!:(

lol

Valmont

thelastangryman wrote: »

MY only comment: Oxygen is needed to provide the body with a certain chemical which allows the muscles to move. The zombies in that book do not breath, logically then they cannot move.

There's your problem. Anyway, everyone knows the zombie virus magically changes all of these scientific facts and turns them on their head somehow so don't worry too much.

Nerin

A wizard did it

marko91

ive just recently gotten into zombies by watching the 28 days movies,dawn of the dead etc and playing nazi zombies in call of duty 5:rolleyes:.....but i wonder IF zombies could actualy exist?hmm doubt it?

marko91

marko91 wrote: »

ive just recently gotten into zombies by watching the 28 days movies,dawn of the dead etc and playing nazi zombies in call of duty 5:rolleyes:.....but i wonder IF zombies could actualy exist?hmm doubt it?

...OF COURSE THEY COULD, (and eventually will!), why else do you think this forum exists???!

ScumLord

marko91 wrote: »

ive just recently gotten into zombies by watching the 28 days movies,dawn of the dead etc and playing nazi zombies in call of duty 5:rolleyes:.....but i wonder IF zombies could actualy exist?hmm doubt it?

A virus could easily do it. Rabies mixed with the flu. A parasite could do it. Or them damned nanobots!

Even a drug could do it. It would take very little manipulation of the brain to turn people homicidal.

cyberwolf77

Here's a list of perfectly logical reasons why the zompocalypse is inevitable
http://www.cracked.com/article_15643_5-scientific-reasons-zombie-apocalypse-could-actually-happen.html:D:D

ScumLord

cyberwolf77 wrote: »

Here's a list of perfectly logical reasons why the zompocalypse is inevitable
http://www.cracked.com/article_15643_5-scientific-reasons-zombie-apocalypse-could-actually-happen.html:D:D

That's a good list.


Off that list I'd say parasite would be the most likely cause of a zombie outbreak. I was thinking about it the other night and a virus would eventually do to much damage to the host body.

Valmont

ScumLord wrote: »

Rabies mixed with the flu

Nah the way I feel at the moment I think I have this but I don't feel the urge to consume human flesh. Not yet anyway.

marko91

wow **** just checked out that link...thats ****ed up!!!hope i die of old age before any of that happens:eek:

cyberwolf77

Bad news mark, one of them already has.

marko91

ye the haitian thing but i mean the zombie mobs eating us lol

cyberwolf77

The nanobots one is what truly worries me on that list. Just what we need, dead folks with millions of tiny machines piloting and repairing their bodies in an effort to spread themselves across humanity. Have to wonder if the classic headshot would even work for disabling one of them, since I assume the nanites would spread themselves throughout the subjects body.

gino85

smegmar wrote: »

Is it better to hold up in a fortress and defend until help comes or keep moving in some armored truck or something

hold up and defend

if your on the move all the time there is a greater chance of being surrounded in unfriendly area, if your defending your doing it on your own terms

cyberwolf77

gino85 wrote: »

hold up and defend

if your on the move all the time there is a greater chance of being surrounded in unfriendly area, if your defending your doing it on your own terms

Home field advantage is doubly important when defending against zombie hordes. You can't carry a moat or a minefield around with you

Nerin

cyberwolf77 wrote: »

Home field advantage is doubly important when defending against zombie hordes. You can't carry a moat or a minefield around with you

Cylinders of gas make a great diy minefield

cyberwolf77

My prefered mines are diy claymores. They have the remote detonation option that I adore, and can be placed at head height to take the deadoes out fast.

SmileyPaul

theres always the god complex to think about when your talking about viruses
this is that .01% of all living creatures are immune to certain viruses
which means that even if a global pandemic swept the well the globe there would be that teeny % that will survive

edit:
that post was in reply to the post about viruses that cannot be immunised against

ScumLord

SmileyPaul wrote: »

theres always the god complex to think about when your talking about viruses
this is that .01% of all living creatures are immune to certain viruses
which means that even if a global pandemic swept the well the globe there would be that teeny % that will survive

edit:
that post was in reply to the post about viruses that cannot be immunised against

That's true, lets just hope the immune don't get killed by the zombie horde.

Humans are great survivors though, I have little doubt enough would make it to keep the species going. Like with any mass extinction, those that survive will flourish.

Valmont

marko91 wrote: »

but i wonder IF zombies could actualy exist?hmm doubt it?

Of course they exist, I saw a few in Bray last weekend.