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  • 08-10-2008 11:42am
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,414 ✭✭✭✭




    Prediction: there's going to be a lot of talk about this phrase this week.

    What's your call? A display of McCain's absolute disgust for Obama, racist overtones, or simply his utterly awful, awful attempt at humour?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,475 ✭✭✭Lil' Smiler


    I can't see it :(


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,414 ✭✭✭✭Trojan




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,721 ✭✭✭Otacon


    Can you perhaps post a transcript or something?

    I can't get youtube video at work.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,166 ✭✭✭enda1


    Yeah what's the phrase?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 23,556 ✭✭✭✭Sir Digby Chicken Caesar


    seriously,. what the ****?
    can Ireland please pull it's head out of obamas nutsack for a few minutes to take a rational look at what's going on? I like obama, but I am disgusted by what I see here. Youi wouldn't get as much fawning and adoration if Jesus came back and he looked like sarah michelle gellar.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,377 ✭✭✭Benedict XVI


    Mordeth wrote: »
    seriously,. what the ****?
    can Ireland please pull it's head out of obamas nutsack for a few minutes to take a rational look at what's going on? I like obama, but I am disgusted by what I see here. Youi wouldn't get as much fawning and adoration if Jesus came back and he looked like sarah michelle gellar.

    Here, here

    I am sick to the back teeth of all this Obama lovefest, both on this board and all over the media (Mary Wilson on RTE Drivetime is really beginning to p**s me off).

    Can people stop sucking Obama's c**k please.

    I too like Obama but I would love to see MCCain win this one just to p*ss of all the Obama lovers all over this board and in the media, it would be priceless.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,721 ✭✭✭Otacon


    Mordeth wrote: »
    seriously,. what the ****?
    can Ireland please pull it's head out of obamas nutsack for a few minutes to take a rational look at what's going on? I like obama, but I am disgusted by what I see here. Youi wouldn't get as much fawning and adoration if Jesus came back and he looked like sarah michelle gellar.
    Here, here

    I am sick to the back teeth of all this Obama lovefest, both on this board and all over the media (Mary Wilson on RTE Drivetime is really beginning to p**s me off).

    Can people stop sucking Obama's c**k please.

    I too like Obama but I would love to see MCCain win this one just to p*ss of all the Obama lovers all over this board and in the media, it would be priceless.

    While I agree with the sentiment, why did you post your views in this particular thread?

    So far, one user has posted, and re-posted, a link to a video that three other posters (myself included) couldn't see... Seems odd to me...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,487 ✭✭✭banquo


    One of my friends was in NC during the summer and said the reason some people aren't voting for obama is that they hate his supporters so much.

    Onion story!

    http://www.theonion.com/content/news_briefs/parents_of_obama_volunteer

    also:

    http://www.theonion.com/content/video/gunman_kills_15_potential_voters


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,377 ✭✭✭Benedict XVI


    Otacon wrote: »
    While I agree with the sentiment, why did you post your views in this particular thread?

    So far, one user has posted, and re-posted, a link to a video that three other posters (myself included) couldn't see... Seems odd to me...

    In the OP's second post the link to the video works.

    What McCain actually said is so innocuous that creating a thread and inferring the his is racist is just plain stupid and reflects the absolute obsession that most people on this board have in lambasting the GOP ticket and every turn based on nothing other that their infatuation with a one term Senator.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,721 ✭✭✭Otacon


    In the OP's second post the link to the video works.

    What McCain actually said is so innocuous that creating a thread and inferring the his is racist is just plain stupid and reflects the absolute obsession that most people on this board have in lambasting the GOP ticket and every turn based on nothing other that their infatuation with a one term Senator.

    While I thoroughly agree that the OTT support for Obama has been getting a bit annoying of late, I still found it odd that you and Mordeth had picked this thread to make that point.

    Obviously, I still haven't seen the video or a transcript of it to know what the hell is being talked about so you may very well be justified.

    Now, again, can someone please post a transcript for those in work with restricted access to youtube?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,414 ✭✭✭✭Trojan


    If you actually take a second to read my OP, what I said was
    Trojan wrote:
    Prediction: there's going to be a lot of talk about this phrase this week.

    What's your call? A display of McCain's absolute disgust for Obama, racist overtones, or simply his utterly awful, awful attempt at humour?

    Essentially, I think this phrase is going to be a big discussion topic in the post-debate analysis, whether that be right or wrong.

    Mordeth, Benedict XVI, I'm not sure how logic works for you, but slamming McCain is not the same as having one's head in Obama's nutsack, or suck his c**k. Both of you: lose the vulgarity and try to respond in an adult fashion next time.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,264 ✭✭✭✭Hobbes


    Mordeth wrote: »
    seriously,. what the ****?

    It isn't just Ireland, it is making a lot of the news in the US at the moment as well.

    It is a shame really because there is a lot of stuff in the debate that should be covered then this. McCain was basically owned in it.

    This also isn't racist, but what it is instead is a clear indicator of how pissed off McCain is at the moment. At the start of the debate he even refused to shake his hand.



    they did shake hands at the end though.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,414 ✭✭✭✭Trojan


    Hobbes wrote: »
    It isn't just Ireland, it is making a lot of the news in the US at the moment as well.

    It is a shame really because there is a lot of stuff in the debate that should be covered then this. McCain was basically owned in it.

    This also isn't racist, but what it is instead is a clear indicator of how pissed off McCain is at the moment.

    As I said, "a display of McCain's absolute disgust for Obama".

    Well done, Hobbes, for managing to express similar sentiments to our two angry friends here without resorting to nutsacks and c**k sucking.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 6,376 Mod ✭✭✭✭Macha


    Yeah he really seems to hate Obama. Plus he has a history of having a really bad temper - I wouldn't go as far as saying it was racist, more a sign of his temper.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 182 ✭✭yaynay


    Trojan wrote: »

    Prediction: there's going to be a lot of talk about this phrase this week.

    What's your call? A display of McCain's absolute disgust for Obama, racist overtones, or simply his utterly awful, awful attempt at humour?

    Can you explain why you believe the comment had 'racist overtones'? Would you of had the same opinion if the comment come from Obama? It really pisses me off at how quick people are to pull the racist 'card'. :mad:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,650 ✭✭✭cooperguy


    yaynay wrote: »
    Can you explain why you believe the comment had 'racist overtones'? Would you of had the same opinion if the comment come from Obama? It really pisses me off at how quick people are to pull the racist 'card'. :mad:
    I have to agree. When he said it I thought it was a bad move but never once did it cross my mind that racism was involved!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,721 ✭✭✭Otacon


    yaynay wrote: »
    It really pisses me off at how quick people are to pull the racist 'card'. :mad:

    Same as the 'sexist' card imo.

    After looking at the transcript, I suppose I haven't gotten the full power of the statement, but it just seemed a little condescending, nothing more.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,082 ✭✭✭lostexpectation


    bad attempt at humour no biggie


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,798 ✭✭✭Mr. Incognito


    What's this in my tea-cup?

    A storm? No, wait. It's just tea.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 35 Lawlord007


    Trojan wrote: »


    Prediction: there's going to be a lot of talk about this phrase this week.

    What's your call? A display of McCain's absolute disgust for Obama, racist overtones, or simply his utterly awful, awful attempt at humour?

    Awful attempt at humour.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,020 ✭✭✭eVeNtInE


    This post has been deleted.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 32,865 ✭✭✭✭MagicMarker


    It raised an eyebrow when i first watched it, but it's not racist, just shows a lack of respect.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 47,539 CMod ✭✭✭✭Black Swan


    The "that one" comment by McCain, when pointing to Obama, was blatantly disrespectful, and has been picked up by the press. I doubt it was racial, but rather evidenced McCain's dislike for his opponent. I'll bet that McCain now regrets the gesture, given how it has been picked up by the media.

    I also wonder how McCain, referring to Putin as KGB with obvious distain (during this debate, and another public occasion I can recall), helps foreign relations should McCain become president? Sure, you might not like the person, his actions, or his policies, but how does this improve your ability to deal with the former Russian President, and now Prime Minister of Russia by insulting him publicly? Is this good diplomacy, and what does this say about the future McCain as the chief diplomat for the US if elected president?


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 16,653 Mod ✭✭✭✭Manic Moran


    I would love to see MCCain win this one just to p*ss of all the Obama lovers all over this board and in the media, it would be priceless.

    You are not alone. I'm too much of a realist to hold out any hope for this, however. So I'll just suffer for a month or two, then we'll see what happens in 2010.

    NTM


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,015 ✭✭✭Ludo


    Nothing racist about what he said...just pure ignorance and bad manners.

    As for people hoping McCain wins just to annoy/p*ss off Obama supporters...that is a pretty pathetic attitude to say the least and in fact makes them worse than those people they wish to see annoyed.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,985 ✭✭✭skelliser


    they did shake hands at the end its just you couldnt see it clearly cause the camera changed
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3K_MKwVBZRY


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,377 ✭✭✭Benedict XVI


    Ludo wrote: »
    Nothing racist about what he said...just pure ignorance and bad manners.

    As for people hoping McCain wins just to annoy/p*ss off Obama supporters...that is a pretty pathetic attitude to say the least and in fact makes them worse than those people they wish to see annoyed.


    P**ing off Obama suppoteres is only one of a number of reasons why I would like to see McCain win.

    The others mainly relate to McCain's qualities.


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 16,653 Mod ✭✭✭✭Manic Moran


    that is a pretty pathetic attitude to say the least and in fact makes them worse than those people they wish to see annoyed.

    It's a sort of recoil effect, like my reaction to smear tactics. I react badly to what I perceive as undignified behaviour and do not believe it should be rewarded.
    My wife supports Obama, but makes her case calmly and without excess. Two attitudes which she does not exhibit are 'After years of Bush, it is the Democrats' God-given right to have the White House', because it isn't, and a general "Obama is the Messiah, McCain is Lucifer" sort of view, both of which are behaviours I have encountered on various web boards around the Net. Any form of decorum from certain aspects is long gone, and I can only contemplate the difference between an online personal and real-world interactions in the office.

    I refer you to "Red vs Blue, the Difference between Real Life and Internet", the chapter on "Discussing Politics". (Available on Youtube)

    NTM


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,729 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    Id go as far as to call him racist. between his performance at the debate, voting against martin luther king day, etc. etc.

    he has it out for blacks.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 23,316 ✭✭✭✭amacachi


    I'm assuming you're taking the piss.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,729 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    white-flour.jpg


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,015 ✭✭✭Ludo


    It's a sort of recoil effect, like my reaction to smear tactics. I react badly to what I perceive as undignified behaviour and do not believe it should be rewarded.
    My wife supports Obama, but makes her case calmly and without excess. Two attitudes which she does not exhibit are 'After years of Bush, it is the Democrats' God-given right to have the White House', because it isn't, and a general "Obama is the Messiah, McCain is Lucifer" sort of view, both of which are behaviours I have encountered on various web boards around the Net.
    NTM

    In case you hadn't noticed, the internet is full of nut cases and extremists on both sides who are extremely annoying. Most people who support Obama (or McCain) are perfectly rational and coherent in their thoughts. I still think it is juvenile just to hope someone else wins just because of a few nut cases. Decide on the policies and who you think would make the best president.


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 16,653 Mod ✭✭✭✭Manic Moran


    Like Benedict, I have.

    Seeing the effect it has on the annoying Obama Faithful would just be a positive spin-off.

    NTM


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,414 ✭✭✭✭Trojan


    yaynay wrote: »
    Can you explain why you believe the comment had 'racist overtones'? Would you of had the same opinion if the comment come from Obama? It really pisses me off at how quick people are to pull the racist 'card'. :mad:

    I didn't think the comment had racist overtones. I don't think McCain is racist - I do think he hates Obama with vehemence.

    Personally, I think it was a stupid blunder. However, I can imagine a lot of people believing that it had racist overtones, hence my asking how people here interpretted it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,895 ✭✭✭✭Sand


    I dont think he hates Obama. Heres a clip of him defending Obama repeatedly. No real hatred that I saw - if anything McCain could have been stumping for Obama. Thats his problem, hes too honest.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,836 ✭✭✭Sir Gallagher


    Sand wrote: »
    I dont think he hates Obama. Heres a clip of him defending Obama repeatedly. No real hatred that I saw - if anything McCain could have been stumping for Obama. Thats his problem, hes too honest.

    ****1n hell, nice crowd of poeple there. Your wan was the best though, bit cat lady head on her "I don't trust Obama, he's an Arab".


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,015 ✭✭✭Ludo


    I think he realises he has gone too far and is now trying to tone down all the crap he has caused. I honestly don't think this is the campaign McCain wanted to run. He has allowed it to be hijacked by the Karl Rove type element. I do believe he is a decent guy who has let circumstances get away from him.


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