C&C - have i a hope?

stick-dan · 04-10-2008 1:48pm #1

Hey can anyone advice me if this is any good? Only starting out as in really really new to this and want some opinions. Getting a dslr next weekend and cannot wait. I took this one on my little digital camera i have did very little processing on it in ps. I like it and some of my mates think it's ok, said i'd ask the experts

Anyone point out to me what i'm doing right/wrong?Thanks in advance.The photo of the girl is by Gottfried Helnwein. *(apologies for misspelling)

YogiBear · 04-10-2008 1:57pm

Link to large: http://pix.ie/danieljordan13/693480/in/album/327571
Imho, the image of poster in colour & rest of image in b&w works really well here.
Personally I would increase black in "selective colour" (PS) x 1 to add contrast.... but that's just me.
Good stuff! Have fun with your DSLR when it arrives!

TelePaul · 04-10-2008 2:01pm

Good shot. Pretty unsettling. I'd also mess with the b+w contrast a bit.

AnimalRights · 04-10-2008 2:13pm

Interesting shot.
What DSLR you getting by the way?

dakar · 04-10-2008 2:40pm

Definitely off to a good start so in answer to your intro question, yes you show promise:)!

Interesting image, as was mentioned above, the b/w element could do with a bit more punch.

You'll love the control a DSLR will give you. Keep posting.

0utpost31 · 04-10-2008 2:45pm

I know the guy who owns those pictures, so I have to jump in and ask could you at least credit him please??.....

http://www.gottfriedhelnwein.ie/

GhostInTheRuins · 04-10-2008 2:46pm

stick-dan wrote: »

Hey can anyone advice me if this is any good? Only starting out as in really really new to this and want some opinions. Getting a dslr next weekend and cannot wait. I took this one on my little digital camera i have did very little processing on it in ps. I like it and some of my mates think it's ok, said i'd ask the experts Anyone point out to me what i'm doing right/wrong?Thanks in advance.

I really like it. To me it looks like some vision of a bleak dystopian future haha! If you cropped out the boats in the foreground and added more contrast it would look even more so.

stick-dan · 04-10-2008 5:58pm

dakar wrote: »

Definitely off to a good start so in answer to your intro question, yes you show promise:)!

Interesting image, as was mentioned above, the b/w element could do with a bit more punch.

You'll love the control a DSLR will give you. Keep posting.

Thanks, really yeah i've head it's a major difference and all. Am buzzing to try it out. I'm thinking of taking the same picture again with the DSLR when i get it and seeing the difference. I plan to keep posting but hope not to bore you all, mine look so crappy in comparison to some of the shots on this site i've seen.

AnimalRights wrote: »

Interesting shot.
What DSLR you getting by the way?

Thanks I'm getting a 400D, i'm a complete newbie to the DSLR area and heard it was the way to go.So getting it for the 21st. Possibly thinking of getting a macro lens aswell, i find macro very interesting.

0utpost31 wrote: »

I know the guy who owns those pictures, so I have to jump in and ask could you at least credit him please??.....

http://www.gottfriedhelnwein.ie/

Done and done

Apologies i didn't initially, Thanks for pointing that out.:)

GhostInTheRuins wrote: »

I really like it. To me it looks like some vision of a bleak dystopian future haha! If you cropped out the boats in the foreground and added more contrast it would look even more so.

Thanks

yeah it really does look eerie and different. A lot of people have said that. I'll try you recommendation and see how it turns out, will post up the further edited version if it's any good

Btw thanks to everyone for commenting so far

DaireQuinlan · 04-10-2008 6:05pm

hmm. Initially I thought this was an in-situ poster that you'd left selectively coloured in an otherwise B&W shot. But you've just pasted in another artists work into an otherwise bland shot of some docks ? I'd go out on a limb here and say that it doesn't even belong in a photography forum. Its digital art, not photography. This can't even be critiqued as though it were a photograph.

whyulittle · 04-10-2008 6:06pm

It's not pasted in Daire. That is actually hanging there.

Fajitas! · 04-10-2008 6:07pm

No no, it's a huge poster hanging down off the Nth. side docks, nothing copied and pasted, just selectivly coloured!

DaireQuinlan · 04-10-2008 6:13pm

Ah right, I stand corrected so.

stick-dan · 04-10-2008 6:13pm

DaireQuinlan wrote: »

hmm. Initially I thought this was an in-situ poster that you'd left selectively coloured in an otherwise B&W shot. But you've just pasted in another artists work into an otherwise bland shot of some docks ? I'd go out on a limb here and say that it doesn't even belong in a photography forum. Its digital art, not photography. This can't even be critiqued as though it were a photograph.

No, no it is photography not digital art i can assure you.Go to my pix site and you can see the color equivalent of it. It's actually an artists work on display in waterford. I can assure it's not pasted in.:)

AnimalRights · 04-10-2008 6:21pm

0utpost31 wrote: »

I know the guy who owns those pictures, so I have to jump in and ask could you at least credit him please??.....

http://www.gottfriedhelnwein.ie/

I am confused a bit so correct me if I am wrong.
You want the OP to credit the guy whose picture is hanging of that building?

I wouldn't have credited him, his work is in a public place.
I mean if I was to take a picture of the GPO have I too credit the owners or heaven forbid credit the family of the people who built it years ago?

AnCatDubh · 04-10-2008 8:46pm

Nicely caught - yes i think you've probably much to look forward to with your DSLR.

smelltheglove · 04-10-2008 9:39pm

Very nice job there, yes you have got hope, I'd look forward to seeing what you can do when you progress to a dslr.

On the credit note, fair play to the guy who took it although I dont think his work is exactly the main part, this pic would have worked well with even a guiness advert there, on that note, should we credit Guiness when we take a pic of a pint? I might be coming across a bit mean here but I think that's the best way to put my point across so no disrespect.

TelePaul · 04-10-2008 11:25pm

0utpost31 wrote: »

I know the guy who owns those pictures, so I have to jump in and ask could you at least credit him please??.....

http://www.gottfriedhelnwein.ie/

Ah that's a bit much dude...the liberal interpretation of what 'art' is means that most of us would have to credit a great deal of our shots to someone at one stage or another.

stick-dan · 05-10-2008 8:40am

Just like me to start off a debate:(lol

thanks for all the commments guys

AnimalRights · 05-10-2008 9:45am

Dan how do you get your pixie image as your sig directly linking to your pixie?

City-Exile · 05-10-2008 9:52am

I don't think the boats add anything to the image.
I'd even go as far as to say that they're a distraction.
The impact of the colour section is reduced, as a result.

Also, I'd go for greater contrast.

i71jskz5xu42pb · 05-10-2008 10:00am

AnimalRights wrote: »

I am confused a bit so correct me if I am wrong.
You want the OP to credit the guy whose picture is hanging of that building?

It was just a handy way for 0utpost31 to say "I know a famous artist".

AnimalRights · 05-10-2008 10:04am

Harsh....but funny.
My mother worked for Vivienne Westwood back in the 70's but I've never mentioned that b4 here did I. :cool:

0utpost31 · 05-10-2008 12:08pm

Adelina Old-fashioned Shock wrote: »

It was just a handy way for 0utpost31 to say "I know a famous artist".

No, it's not. I'd start a thread on him if I wanted everybody to know that.

If it was a picture of guinness well then I wouldn't care about it but I just thought that some people would like to know a bit more about the subject of the photo. Since I know him I feel that it's my duty to introduce him to those who might be interested or don't have a clue... like that guy who thought it was a cut&paste job.

Who the f*ck is vivienne westwood?

stick-dan · 05-10-2008 12:41pm

AnimalRights wrote: »

Dan how do you get your pixie image as your sig directly linking to your pixie?

pm sent

AnimalRights · 05-10-2008 1:01pm

0utpost31 wrote: »

Who the f*ck is vivienne westwood?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vivienne_Westwood
http://www.viviennewestwood.com/flash.php

Herself in 1977

challengemaster · 05-10-2008 1:06pm

0utpost31 wrote: »

Since I know him I feel that it's my duty to introduce him to those who might be interested or don't have a clue... like that guy who thought it was a cut&paste job.

introduce him? Not what you said. you wanted him credited for something that ended up in someone elses shot. Which has to be the worst idea I've ever heard. Seems like you just wanted brownie points with your friend.

And that person was confused about the pic, if it was photoshopped or not. I really don't think they were interested in who took the picture that was hanging in the first place.

0utpost31 · 05-10-2008 1:32pm

I should have worded it differently.

AnimalRights · 05-10-2008 1:38pm

Yeah, least you are big enough to admit it.
Fair play.
:grouphug:

Fajitas! · 05-10-2008 2:05pm

What AR said... now... back to the topic at hand

Calina · 05-10-2008 7:27pm

Hi stick-dan and welcome to the forum.

I must say I like this very much; it's very neatly created. I'd be with the chorus that says you might consider upping the contrast a bit, make the blacks a bit blacker if you like.

I might have shot it at a slightly different angle, so that the poster is sloping even more away from you.

Regards cutting it, I see two things. I like the context that the boats give the shot, but I would consider cropping it top and bottom to clear out a lot of the foreground and the sky to leave a slightly panorama shaped photograph, but leave the selective colouring.

All told, very, very nice work however. Well done.

barnacle · 05-10-2008 8:32pm

I think this is a fantastic shot, but I'd increase the contrast and/or shadows. I'd also crop out the boats, on the left hand side, I'd go as far as the right side of the post, and on the rhs to the edge of the dock.

I think the shot is fantastic because of the pp you have done, but, not sure if it would be so fantastic without, but then again, thats what pp is about.

C&C - have i a hope?

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