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When do you decide not to survive anymore?

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  • 02-10-2008 4:48am
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    Registered Users Posts: 111 ✭✭


    So, it's like this...

    Up to now, I haven't been living my life in terms of Zombie preparedness (I should've joined the Scouts when I was a wean, but they didn't let girls in back then) but I'm about to start on my plan/survival kit.

    My problem is that I am really only willing to sit out a minor - medium zombie outbreak. In the case of what Max Brooks describes as a Level 4 outbreak, where most of the world is overrun, I am pretty sure there is a point where I will just put a bullet in my brain.

    With a bit of training and prep, I'm pretty sure I'm resourceful enough to get good enough at the game to make it through the other side if Zombies were the only issue.

    However, if there is a major world-wide - or even just eurasian - outbreak, the following two (I've only started thinking about this, I'm sure more will follow) things would be enough to make me not want to stick around to rebuild the human race...

    1) Nuclear meltdown. While we're waiting 5-20 years for the bulk of the zombies to die out, who is making sure the nuclear power plants etc are safe? I'm pretty sure the whole thing would go tits within a matter of years, and I'm not sure I want to try rebuilding the world with a baby with four arms and no mouth.

    2) I'm female. I hate to generalise, but based purely on demographic interest in zombie preparedness/ combat/ survivalism etc, a LOT more men than women will survive WWZ, and in my book, this means more work for me attempting to dissuade people from thinking that I am a commodity. Not worth the risk/effort, unless I pull a Grace O'Malley and lead whatever group of survivors I end up with. And I don't really have enough leadership skills to do that.

    So, is there a point where you would decide it's not worth going on?


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  • Registered Users Posts: 19,106 ✭✭✭✭TestTransmission


    froodie wrote: »
    2) I'm female. I hate to generalise, but based purely on demographic interest in zombie preparedness/ combat/ survivalism etc, a LOT more men than women will survive WWZ, and in my book, this means more work for me attempting to dissuade people from thinking that I am a commodity. Not worth the risk/effort, unless I pull a Grace O'Malley and lead whatever group of survivors I end up with. And I don't really have enough leadership skills to do that.

    So, is there a point where you would decide it's not worth going on?

    Lots of men,few women left....u'll come in very useful :D


  • Registered Users Posts: 111 ✭✭froodie


    jackncoke wrote: »
    Lots of men,few women left....u'll come in very useful :D

    Yes, you can trade me for beans and bullets. Won't that be lovely?
    *scowls*


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 580 ✭✭✭karlr42


    Think of your duty to your fellow survivors! The very future of the non-Zombified human race could rest on you:cool:!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18 MightyCelestial


    Aw, quit yer cryin',
    & do your duty.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 30 G-izzles


    To be honest, in my experience of intense Zombie survival (Zombival), there's always a point where one reaches 'the wall'. It was mid-February for me. I felt like it was pretty much the end, I had the gun cocked and my finger on the trigger, but then I realised, they're just zombies; incredibly slow, badly put together and altogether moany. That's when the tables turned and really, the sh*t got fun! Now I keep a remote island inhabitted just by zombies. Almost like a Jurassic Park. I have two more that specialise in Scousers and fans of Pop Music (special centres for Peaches Geldof fans, not that she's a pop star - some think she is though)

    It's really a glass half full/empty situation. The glass isn't really there.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 14,953 ✭✭✭✭Grizzly 45


    [
    Up to now, I haven't been living my life in terms of Zombie preparedness (I should've joined the Scouts when I was a wean, but they didn't let girls in back then) but I'm about to start on my plan/survival kit.
    Could have joined the Brownies or Girl [Gurrl] guides.They are almost a prep course for the SAS.:D:D

    1) Nuclear meltdown. While we're waiting 5-20 years for the bulk of the zombies to die out, who is making sure the nuclear power plants etc are safe? I'm pretty sure the whole thing would go tits within a matter of years, and I'm not sure I want to try rebuilding the world with a baby with four arms and no mouth.

    Not a big a problem as one would actually think.Most modern nuke reactors in the West that is.Are built on a dead man principle,IOW if they are not attended to within say a 12/24 hour time period.They start to shut down and pull the rods from the core.They only become a problem if someone fuk acts deliberatly with their cooling or failsafe systems [ala Cherynobl].It is quite a job to actually get one of those plants to go POP and meltdown.

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    ) I'm female. I hate to generalise, but based purely on demographic interest in zombie preparedness/ combat/ survivalism etc, a LOT more men than women will survive WWZ, and in my book, this means more work for me attempting to dissuade people from thinking that I am a commodity. Not worth the risk/effort, unless I pull a Grace O'Malley and lead whatever group of survivors I end up with. And I don't really have enough leadership skills to do that.

    You'd be surprised as to where and in whom you find "leadership quality" when things go to pot.You will never know until it happens.
    Somtimes the toughest and most likely leader material falls to bits before the first major test.History is full of women who were great leaders from Grace O Malley,Boudica,Elizabeth 1, Maggie Thatcher,Countess Markwitz.And thats just in these Islands.None of them thought themselves a commodity,they used men as a commodity and two of them Grace and Liz 1st got on apprently extremly well as equals,and treated terms between themselves.
    Think basically you just dont have self confidence in yourself to "go on" if it goes on longer than expected.Thats not meant nastily BTW.But you can do plenty to improve your self confidence.Why not take up somthing that builds your self confidence???Not some happy clappy corporate "team building" farsceical BS.But maybe go and learn to shoot a gun,take up a martial art that DOES teach self defence not a sport.Like Krav Marga.
    You will soon find out it is more your outlook on the problem ,than the possible problem itself.

    So, is there a point where you would decide it's not worth going on?
    When my fortress is overrun and I am too old and blind and weak to point my shotgun at the last door that is finally being broken in by the Z hordes,and I have one cartridge left.THEN I'll think about it.:D

    "If you want to keep someone away from your house, Just fire the shotgun through the door."

    Vice President [and former lawyer] Joe Biden Field& Stream Magazine interview Feb 2013 "



  • Registered Users Posts: 5,856 ✭✭✭Valmont


    Grizzly 45 wrote: »
    [
    When my fortress is overrun and I am too old and blind and weak to point my shotgun at the last door that is finally being broken in by the Z hordes,and I have one cartridge left.THEN I'll think about it.:D

    That's the attitude of a survivor right there. Bravo
    :D

    A lot more men are interested in survival but I'd bet that the actual number of men who actually practice and prepare is quite low. So I'm sure a small calibre handgun strapped to you inner thigh should be enough of a deterent.:p


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,048 ✭✭✭SimpleSam06


    froodie wrote: »
    So, is there a point where you would decide it's not worth going on?
    We'll come with knives and shot, matching them grin for grin, sticks and stones, all the arsenal of the old world at our fingertips. We'll duel them to the death in dark alleys, the throaty roar of our saws will be louder than their moans, we'll nuke 'em till they glow, then shoot 'em in the dark. We'll stand shoulder to shoulder and spit in the vacant eyes of the usurpers, with fire and steel shall we cleanse the gaping cities. Until the last of the damned falls beneath our feet, we shall know no rest nor surcease, until by the fading light of day we dance the last dance with the endless hordes of the tomb herd, the barking weapons in our hands speaking our indomitable will with relentless voices. Fight, and never surrender!



    So eh, not really, no.


  • Registered Users Posts: 783 ✭✭✭Kromdar


    kinda sucks, i can see where the whole commodity thing lies, but still, unless we have an ass-load of genetecists lying around after z-day [and thats unlikely, they prolly caused the damned thing] then without women who are even remotely interested in fighting, humankind is destined to die. when you put that aforementioned bullet in your brain, you're killing a lot more than just yourself.

    sink about it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 121 ✭✭gabigeist


    Wow, this is a catch 22. On the one hand, we'll need to restrict women's access to firearms given their likely suicidal tendancies. On the other hand, we'll need everyone armed when the Zs come.
    Thanks for bringing this to light. It'll take some serious planning to figure out how best to subjugate womankind whilst battling the undead at the same time.


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