NASA is fifty

mike65

Happy birthday!

Mike

Latchy

Happy B'day NASA

btw , Hueston ' ....i have a problem ....i'll pm you ok ?

conceited

there's snow on mars is more important mike.

cyrusdvirus

conceited wrote: »

there's snow on mars is more important mike.

Global freezing?

belated happy b'day and stuff.

Pgibson

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lord lucan

discovery channel have just started showing a new series called 'nasas greatest missions'. they've re-mastered all the old footage from the nasa vaults and brought them up to scratch. the mercury missions were on tonight,spectacular footage. i think the gemini missions are on sunday night.

JupiterKid

Happy 50th NASA!

It's a bit sad that the past 30 of those 50 years were rather wasted with the faffing about with the Space Shuttle, a costly and dangerous vehicle that can only go into low orbit. Onwards with the new manned Moon and Mars missions...

However the unmanned Viking, Voyager, Cassini and Mars Rover missions have been absolutely spectacular.

localnutjob

50 years of lies and coverups is nothing to celebrate IMO


http://www.enterprisemission.com/

JupiterKid

Hoagland's "work" is total deluded rubbish, he claims the "face" on Mars is real and that NASA covered up alien artifacts on the Moon. But at least he's not in the same loo-lah camp who believe the Apollo missions were faked. Dangerous and distorted rubbish all the same.

Pgibson

JupiterKid wrote: »

Hoagland's "work" is total deluded rubbish, he claims the "face" on Mars is real

Its "real" but its not a "face". (More like Ayres Rock in Australia.)

Image of the "Face" from Mars Express:

http://apod.nasa.gov/apod/image/0609/face2_marsexpress_big.jpg

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localnutjob

how is it deluded rubbish exactly ?
have you read his book ?

I have been a fan of astronomy and science since I was a nipper , and he puts forward a very well backed up argument , so much so that I seriously doubt anything NASA teslls us is actually true , and if it is , it has been seriously cleaned up and sanitised.

the photos from mars being havily colored red when in fact the planet has blue skys is but one point where NASA is lying blatantly to the world.

that face picture may not look like a face , but it still looks artifiicial - even if it has been obviously manipulated.

and "the moon landings were faked story" was released by NASA itself - to misdirect peoples interest in the moon, due to the stuff they found there-


lying b@stards .

Pgibson

localnutjob wrote: »

In fact the planet has blue skys is but one point where NASA is lying blatantly to the world.
lying b@stards .

Why would NASA go to the bother of "doctoring" the colour of the Martian sky Localnutjob ?

What difference would it make to anybody what goddamn colour it is?

Some photos:

http://www.google.ie/imgres?imgurl=http://motivate.maths.org/conferences/conf42/Talk_images/mars_sky.jpg&imgrefurl=http://motivate.maths.org/conferences/conf42/c42_talk4.shtml&h=237&w=244&sz=2&tbnid=PPFeckUZ6osJ::&tbnh=107&tbnw=110&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dmars%2Bsky&hl=en&usg=__7aFEZ-FbPeIAyL7PnPaINr2N0Io=&sa=X&oi=image_result&resnum=2&ct=image&cd=1

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cyrusdvirus

Eh, lads....the username is localnutjob..... should tell you a thing or 2.

Soooo.....Mars has blue skies....Can ya explain the reddish tinge from it when you are looking at it or have Nasa put some sort of colour filter over me so everything has a red tinge??

I also like the way that this guy Hogland or whatever his name is has called his site the Enterprise Mission, when most of us who have an interest in space etc will also have leanings towards watching sci fi and the big daddy of commercial sci fi is Star Trek, with the Enterprise on her (5 year/Continuing) Mission

Pgibson

gatecrash wrote: »

The big daddy of commercial sci fi is Star Trek, with the Enterprise on her (5 year/Continuing) Mission

Off topic bit:

The Star Trekers are still battling it out after more than 5 years.

Sulu wouldn't invite Captain Kirk to his gay wedding.

Sob. Sob.

http://tv.msn.com/tv/article.aspx/?news=335908&GT1=28103

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localnutjob

NASA obviously release pictures of the probes etc that they launch - pre flight . but when you compare the colors of the probe in the pictures on mars , with the pre flight pics , its obvious that the red element has been turned up to keep up the impression that mars is a dead , red , dusty world, when it in fact has ( proven ) water , blue skys etc.

why bother ? to hide the fact that mars is actually teeming with life.


also some probes have color templates attached to calibrate cameras- these also show too much red in the surface pics - probe parts that are normally bright white appear reddish pink in the mars pics .

if you download any mars surface picture , view it in any graphic package , then knock back the red element - you see mars as it really is .

it worked for them in the viking era , but the web and the pc/ grpahic packages have now destroyed that cover up for them.

hey , I wasnt convinced either until I tried it - and hey presto - its obvious to even a kid that this is what they are doing - dont knock it til youve tried it ;-) .
have a quick look - some pics slip through - but are quickly corrected

http://www.tmgnow.com/repository/mars/mars_js_1.html


I used to be a total sceptic , astronomy fan , and lover of all things space , but this is so obvious its a disgrace.

Pgibson

localnutjob wrote: »

if you download any mars surface picture , view it in any graphic package , then knock back the red element - you see mars as it really is .

it worked for them in the viking era , but the web and the pc/ grpahic packages have now destroyed that cover up for them.

hey , I wasnt convinced either until I tried it - and hey presto - its obvious to even a kid that this is what they are doing - dont knock it til youve tried it ;-) .
have a quick look - some pics slip through - but are quickly corrected
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Quite the opposite happened.
It's well known that when they rushed the very first Viking photo to the press back in 1976 the sky did indeed look blue because the press were clamouring for pictures and it was a rush job.

When they calibrated the images properly the proper colour emerged.

Neptune's sky is blue.
That does not mean there is any life there:

http://nssdc.gsfc.nasa.gov/image/planetary/neptune/neptune.jpg

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localnutjob

of course you would send up a non calibrated millions of dollars of equipment to another planet - wouldnt you ?

here is the real truth - NASA is lying .

http://www.theforbiddenknowledge.com/hardtruth/images_altering_revealed.htm

and the sceintific community should not be accepting this cover up.

Pgibson

localnutjob wrote: »

and the sceintific community should not be accepting this cover up.

This site explains the colour confusion:

http://www.msss.com/mars/pictures/viking_lander/viking_lander.html

I quote from it:

"Viking color images of the martian surface suffer from a variety of uncertainties, in particular the relative brightness of the "red" and "blue" channels. Early reconstructions of the Viking lander images tended to show "blue" sky, while later reconstructions, trying to account for out-of-band contributions in each filter, tended to show a "red" sky, and often an "orange" surface. Owing to calibration uncertainties, the exact reconstruction of Viking Lander color images remains more or less an art. Recognizing that even white portions of the spacecraft will appear slightly pink (or apricot), since sunlight reaching the surface is filtered through the atmosphere, which has a fairly high concentration of dust, and further recognizing that "orange" is not a particularly prevalent geologic "color," the colors in these reproductions tend more towards reddish-browns."

Nobody is trying to "fool" us.
No "Gunpowder Plot" in NASA I'm afraid!

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Pgibson

P.S.
If you wear a white suit under a yellow streetlight the suit looks yellow.
Even in a photo.Same for the American Flag.

If you adjust the colour balance in the photo to show the suit as looking white you will not be giving an accurate colour picture of the whole environment surrounding the suit when the photo was taken.

(Colour is merely the balance of reflected light wavelengths in a given environment.)

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localnutjob

good god , thats a laughable explanation - the sky is red so the lander looks red ???

mars has clears skys 99% of the time - the sky is clear and transparent
and with Rallyeigh scattering is blue like earth .

its only when dust storms arise that the sky turns orange .
hubble shows the proof right here - pure blue sky - just like earth.
( let me guess - HUBBLE is mis-calibrated - right ? )

http://hubblesite.org/newscenter/archive/releases/solar%20system/2007/45/image/h/format/web_print/

no red sky here : the ice is white - not orange .

if the sky was tainting the surface , then the ice would be seen as orange - from space and the surface.
just like your white suit under a lamp ;-)

http://hubblesite.org/newscenter/archive/releases/2001/24/image/a/format/web_print/

here you can see the difference when a storm occurs - the southern ice turns orange
http://hubblesite.org/newscenter/archive/releases/solar%20system/mars/2001/31/image/a/format/web_print/

so NASA are basically saying "we only take pics when the dust is flying about - thats why the lander is orange along with the sky and land"

yeah , we believe you NASA .!!


and "calibration errors " funny - the camera works on earth but once it gets to mars - suddenly the calibration is wrong ? thats utter garbage.

complete and utter lying .

Pgibson

localnutjob wrote: »

Mars has clears skys 99% of the time - the sky is clear and transparent and with Rallyeigh scattering is blue like earth .
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Raleigh scattering makes Earth's sky RED at sunset and sunrise.

Clearly ,you know so much more about the colour of the Martian sky than the European Space Agency,the Russian Space Agency and NASA you must certainly be a Martian yourself.

I always knew ye were hiding here somewhere.

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Pgibson

P.S.

Some lying fraudster coloured in this photo of the EARTH'S blue sky to make it look red:

http://www.thomaslaupstad.com/bilder/red_sunset800.jpg

(Probably works for NASA.)

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localnutjob

Pgibson wrote: »

Raleigh scattering makes Earth's sky RED at sunset and sunrise.

Clearly ,you know so much more about the colour of the Martian sky than the European Space Agency,the Russian Space Agency and NASA you must certainly be a Martian yourself.

I always knew ye were hiding here somewhere.

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err yes, but most of the photos are taken during the DAY not at sunrise and sunset -
as you can see , during the DAY it makes it blue

http://www.sciencemadesimple.com/sky_blue.html

and yes the ESA are also involved ;-) - i do know enough to be able to tell when im being lied to .

Pgibson

localnutjob wrote: »

And yes the ESA are also involved .

You forgot to mention the Pope and the Dalai Lama and Dail Eireann.



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Pgibson

Incidentally,many artistic renderings of the Martian sky show it as blueish.
Thats ok.
(The September issue of Sky & Telescope magazine has on it's cover the Phoenix lander with a white sun setting on to a brown horizon under a light reddish-blue sky.A bit unlikely in a sky 95% Carbon Dioxide, but it's artistic.)

According to this article,for instance,the colour is "tawny" :

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atmosphere_of_Mars

Quote:
"The atmosphere is quite dusty, giving the Martian sky a tawny color when seen from the surface; data from the Mars Exploration Rovers indicates the suspended dust particles are roughly 1.5 micrometres across."

Your contention that there is an international cover-up going on about the colour is what is preposterous.

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localnutjob

funny -

check out the rovers website
the true color pictures are called - wait for it , cos it is good !

"false colour"

and the fake pictures are left up as the "true colour"

http://marsrover.nasa.gov/gallery/panoramas/spirit/

it gets even better
when you look at the pics of the rover - pre launch - funnily enough
all the lads are working in a room colored orangy red - so they are even editing the pre launch photos now - since they realise the rover color is a giveaway to the fact that NASA is editing photos to look red .

I mean seriously - who the hell works in a clean room thats dark orange ???

http://marsrover.nasa.gov/gallery/spacecraft/images/mer2_021003.jpg
http://marsrover.nasa.gov/gallery/spacecraft/mer1_021003.html

what a bunch of lying [EMAIL="b@stards"]b@stards[/EMAIL]

Fabio

Getting back on topic slightly...happy birthday NASA!

lostexpectation

archive of lecture of nasa at 50 this ones give an voer view of exploration of the planets
http://www.google.ie/url?sa=t&source=web&ct=res&cd=1&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.space-multimedia.nl.eu.org%2Findex.php%3Foption%3Dcom_content%26view%3Darticle%26id%3D4574%3Anasa-at-50-langley-lecture-series-with-dr-james-head%26catid%3D1&ei=WwdESdjIBJL-QemghNcI&usg=AFQjCNEoaTB5JnHXQynLuzFobMs89X9KfQ&sig2=Cqp7HKuYgxX-GFtU0GIjtA

still wondering what saturn look likes inside