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What is the world coming to?

  • 01-10-2008 9:09am
    #1
    Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 10,446 Mod ✭✭✭✭


    Sickening, heartless bastards...

    http://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/UK-News/Derby-Police-Criticise-Crowd-Who-Encouraged-Shaun-Dykes-To-Jump-Off-Westfield-Shopping-Centre/Article/200810115110890?lpos=UK_News_Carousel_Region_1&lid=ARTICLE_15110890_Derby%3A_Police_Criticise_Crowd_Who_Encouraged_Shaun_Dykes_To_Jump_Off_Westfield_Shopping_Centre

    Police have criticised a crowd of people who encouraged a suicidal teenager to jump from a shopping centre car park.

    Shaun Dykes, 17, died after he fell from the site on the roof of the Westfield shopping centre in Derby on Saturday afternoon.

    The teenager, a student at Heanor Gate Science College, climbed over a railing on the top level of the shopping centre's car park at 2.30pm on Saturday.

    A group of onlookers gathered to watch while trained negotiators spent three hours trying to coax him down.

    Witnesses said the mob taunted Shaun, who lived in the Derbyshire village of Kilburn, and shouted: "Go on then, jump."

    Students from Shaun's college were nearby and heard the goading, according to his headteacher Rob Howard.

    "One student told me he could not believe people place such little value on life. It's almost like they are in a television show. It's unreal," Mr Howard said.

    "The sad thing is that a couple of the students, if they could have got close enough, felt that they could have made a difference. It's very traumatic."

    Police condemned the onlookers and added that their presence did not help their attempts to save Shaun.

    "We are disappointed that people decided to stop and watch, and some people decided to pass comments," a Derbyshire Police spokesman said.

    "According to one of the police officers involved it was a small minority of people who were saying things. There's really no specific offence if people were passing comments."

    The spokesman added that police did not know what had been troubling the youngster.


Comments

  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 740 ✭✭✭junior_apollo


    Pretty harsh alright...

    Worst thing is it was probably some scumbags that were in the area and not people in anyway involved with the lad...

    I really hope it sits in those peoples thoughts for the rest of their lives that the things they said could have caused it (although it doesnt sound like that would bother these bottom-feeders)...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,258 ✭✭✭✭Rabies


    Put the scumbags on the roof and push


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,813 ✭✭✭themadchef


    If there was a crowd of people..... why was there no one there to silence (smack the heads off) the heartless bullying brigade that formed?

    Surely the police could have at least got them out of earshot of this poor mentally tortured kid.


  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 10,446 Mod ✭✭✭✭xzanti


    themadchef wrote: »
    If there was a crowd of people..... why was there no one there to silence (smack the heads off) the heartless bullying brigade that formed?

    Surely the police could have at least got them out of earshot of this poor mentally tortured kid.

    But they 'condemned' their actions!!.. surely that should suffice..


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,190 ✭✭✭Silenceisbliss


    xzanti wrote: »
    Police have criticised a crowd of people who encouraged a suicidal teenager to jump from a shopping centre car park.

    Shaun Dykes, 17, died after he fell from the site on the roof of the Westfield shopping centre in Derby on Saturday afternoon.

    ....so he was GOING to jump....but then he just fell ?

    3 hours of negotiating only to end with him falling off the roof.... mmmkay.... thats ironic!

    *reads a bit weird*


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 31,859 ✭✭✭✭Sharpshooter


    xzanti wrote: »
    But they 'condemned' their actions!!.. surely that should suffice..


    Don't forget their Disappointment.


  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 10,446 Mod ✭✭✭✭xzanti


    http://technology.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/tech_and_web/article1560877.ece

    Reminds me of this case in which a man was 'urged' by chatroom users to 'get on with it' while hanging himself online.. If my memory serves me didn't Police investigate this and look for any chatters involved, so why weren't any of these scumbags detained over this? As opposed to their actions being 'condemned'..


  • Posts: 8,016 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    That's terrible.

    The amount of scum in this world is unreal.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,467 ✭✭✭shenanigans1982


    Would there be a thread calling him an attention seeker wasting police time if he hadn't gone through with it?

    The police were there urging him not to do it as well he just chose to listen to the people who told him to do it. Chances are if the police had talked him down he would have tried again another time.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,844 ✭✭✭Honey-ec


    xzanti wrote: »
    http://technology.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/tech_and_web/article1560877.ece

    Reminds me of this case in which a man was 'urged' by chatroom users to 'get on with it' while hanging himself online.. If my memory serves me didn't Police investigate this and look for any chatters involved, so why weren't any of these scumbags detained over this? As opposed to their actions being 'condemned'..

    Detained on what grounds? Being an asshole??? Unfortunately that doesn't constitute probable cause for arrest.


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  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 10,446 Mod ✭✭✭✭xzanti


    Honey-ec wrote: »
    Detained on what grounds? Being an asshole??? Unfortunately that doesn't constitute probable cause for arrest.

    Well that was kind of my question, why were the chatters on that website being saught after?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,139 ✭✭✭Wreck


    Is this up on youtube yet?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,698 ✭✭✭Dinter


    Does it not read like he fell (accidentally) while some assholes in the crowd were telling him to jump?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,193 ✭✭✭Turd Ferguson


    He obviously did it as a cry for attention.

    He got in the papers and he has his own thread on boards.ie

    Mission complete


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,625 ✭✭✭✭BaZmO*


    Worst thing is it was probably some scumbags that were in the area and not people in anyway involved with the lad...
    Of course it was people he didn't know, why would people that you knew tell you to jump?

    xzanti wrote: »
    http://technology.timesonline.co.uk/...cle1560877.ece

    Reminds me of this case in which a man was 'urged' by chatroom users to 'get on with it' while hanging himself online.. If my memory serves me didn't Police investigate this and look for any chatters involved, so why weren't any of these scumbags detained over this? As opposed to their actions being 'condemned'..
    That case is different because according to the article the guy was logged onto an "insult" chatroom. What would you expect people to say there?

    Also, the piece doesn't mention the Police talking to anybody involved in the chatroom (I'm sure they did though, to fill out the accident report form or whatever it's called) but there are quotes from the people who witnessed it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,813 ✭✭✭BaconZombie


    WTF, 307 characters in a URL.... What is the world coming to!?!?!?

    xzanti wrote: »
    Sickening, heartless bastards...
    http://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/UK-News/Derby-Police-Criticise-Crowd-Who-Encouraged-Shaun-Dykes-To-Jump-Off-Westfield-Shopping-Centre/Article/200810115110890?lpos=UK_News_Carousel_Region_1&lid=ARTICLE_15110890_Derby%3A_Police_Criticise_Crowd_Who_Encouraged_Shaun_Dykes_To_Jump_Off_Westfield_Shopping_Centre
    




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,102 ✭✭✭RossFixxxed


    I'd jump onto yore ma.

    I for one welcome our jumping teen overlords.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,844 ✭✭✭Honey-ec


    BaZmO* wrote: »
    Of course it was people he didn't know, why would people that you knew tell you to jump?

    I don't know, I can think of a few people I know personally who I would also encourage to jump...


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