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Ireland refgime is now part of the teh policy to declare war on the USA

  • 30-09-2008 11:40am
    #1
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,380 ✭✭✭


    Proof

    This is example peice of a post that started today in boards section banking and pensions
    The whole post has been removed spoooooky

    it started with
    http://www.rte.ie/news/2008/0930/economy.html

    some inputs from others expressing suprise at this namely Irealnd garantees the banks to the tune of 400 billion euros or $700 billion what the USA wouldn't even do

    basicaly the RTE pat keeny was on and I what I heard on the radio we all are in for granteeing the banking system to some 100,000 Euros plus each so I supplied my opinion but that was before the exact figures came out

    They say it belongs in conspiracy region

    But its on RTE pat kenny show

    Even the whole post has gone

    so i will retrive my word document and rehash the inputs I made where
    Derry wrote:
    Puppet on a string
    At least the USA had balls and said let the rotten banks go to hell

    This deal is as always no information magic wand we garentee thais or that and when the time is right we will give you the details on how the tax payer will be protected

    Load of horse manure

    The Govenment has given a blank cheuque to rotten banks who desreve to go belly up if they are shaky and exposes tax payers huge unknown depts
    Basically the Irish government have become traineee bankers head you lose tails the bank wins evertime and taxxpyers will pick up the bill for donkey years to come


    This is not you garentee for 1 million 100,000 euro deposits but a garentee to act as final banker for all depts from banks lending to eachother
    We the taxpayer don't even get to own the banks or get any shares in them so as to get any benifit for the risks but we the tax payers pick up the tab when it goes pear shaped

    The 20 Billion pension fund will have to be raided to finance these promises and garentees

    This is the EU forcing ROI to do this so that they can use this model to copy and impose huge traxes all across the EU

    This is the robbery of the century and ROI gets to spear head it

    Boy will we be popular amoung EU taxpayers who get lumped with the same similar taxxes

    Helps to put spy ships offshore to dicate the terms of surrender

    Derry



    and the next response


    We just became the biggest country that is a bank that garentees 400 Billion


    First we have effectivly declared economic war on the USA in that we say in your face there is no free banking system in the ROI regime and we can show the USA fighting its corner is now not our model of economic policy

    We have stabbed the rest of the EU in the taxxpayers with a economic model that they can use to justify an similar policy

    This cannot benifit the Irish but can sure as hell benifit the bankers

    welcome to the offshore banking country that own the whole poxy Island

    The Albainains had the right idea when the pyramid scheme blew up in the faces of them and they lost everything they just up sticked and took the country back

    Even our greeat great great grandchildren can be paying for this when the banks ensure it all goes south and the bankers retire to the carabeen leaving a wasteland ROI


    Derry


    So bit buy bit the regime controls and brainwashes and is ensuring that your so in dept that dare not protest and if you state the truth full facts you must be part of the conpirasy theory

    Basicaly the king has no cloths and we all got sold for 125,00 Euros each

    listining to joe duffy and he says the same 4 to 1 against this bank bail out

    Rte news at one oclock say biggest blank cheugue in irish history and we don't know the finer details like what we will owe if it goes belly up

    and yet if you try to put the same thing in banking and finance and you get thrown back to conspiracy theory section



    Derry


Comments

  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,267 ✭✭✭DubTony


    derry wrote: »
    and yet if you try to put the same thing in banking and finance and you get thrown back to conspiracy theory section



    Derry

    Derry, they only deleted the post because they couldn't understand the finer points of your argument. Oh, and the fact that they got a headache trying to read it.

    Try throwing in a few commas and full stops for those boys. They'll get a better grasp of what you're trying to say then. Good man.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 153 ✭✭Smudgeyboy


    You'd hardly edit and fix that would you?

    I'd actually like to see what you have to say but I find that impossible to read!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 287 ✭✭d0gb0y


    I agree with you Derry about the bill, Ireland has been shafted once again. I wonder will the minutes of the meeting in the ICB between Leniscam & ICB boss ever become public as it would be very interesting to say the least.
    As to the post getting deleted I think it might have been because of the title of the topic as its a bit misleading.
    One good thing will come out of the latest bankster scam is that people are starting to look into the how the economy works and what is the ICB & ECB which will be a good thing.

    I'm gonna nit pick a bit, the biggest scam of the century was the 1913 Federal Reserve Act, nearly all of our woes come from this one point.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,380 ✭✭✭derry


    d0gb0y wrote: »
    I agree with you Derry about the bill, Ireland has been shafted once again. I wonder will the minutes of the meeting in the ICB between Leniscam & ICB boss ever become public as it would be very interesting to say the least.
    As to the post getting deleted I think it might have been because of the title of the topic as its a bit misleading.
    One good thing will come out of the latest bankster scam is that people are starting to look into the how the economy works and what is the ICB & ECB which will be a good thing.

    I'm gonna nit pick a bit, the biggest scam of the century was the 1913 Federal Reserve Act, nearly all of our woes come from this one point.

    Sorry been busy

    I go with the 1913 Federal Reserve Act being important
    It removed the only uncontrolled power out there that could upset the European banking cartel and helped keep the USA in dept and needing to cater for banking demands or the Fed would starve the USA of essential capital like they did in 1929 through to 1933

    The new deal was just the USA cutting a deal and surrendering to banks desires and wishes who then opened the taps and keep them open as long as the USA tows the line
    Bloddy stupid the USA giving the Federal bank a privatly owned bank the right to print money under licence and therefore control the USA economy with increasing money supply or cutting money supply
    It like a dog giving the enemy a choke lead to choke it

    This last few weeks 2008 will go down as the first step towards making a world fed bank to have only banks running the whole world on their terms

    Basically all Europes banks have effectivily bought out the governments
    (governments delude themselfs they bought the banks but what they really got was toxic banks who are asset stripping Europe )
    When European governments run out of funds to feed the banks then they surrender to banks terms of surrender which will seem OK on paper
    This is because the real target is the USA so they will leave Europe suffer less for the first few years until they topple the USA governments power and then its turn the screws on everybody Europe USA the lot

    The same system is used in the USA with 700 million bail out

    When the thread started the USA had rejected that bail out. Ireland leading the EU posse with a big bail out was effectivily firing the first shot against USA in this war between Banks and who controls the USA ,the USA government , or the fed bank alongside its world bank buddies

    Then when the EU surrenders the assets of EU will be asset stripped to wage economic war along side the USA fed bank to topple the USA government

    The entire stock market swings up and down are the created to ensure the world banks will come out on top and controll the governments completly

    Ireland is war with the banks and Europe is at war with the banks

    Europe has virtualy 99.999% lost the war and Ireland is leading the surrender bound head and foot with gomebeens at the top

    Funny spooky how any attempt to say anything that is slightly true in normal economic or finance forum get you banned in economics

    look my recent post
    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2055397951
    in economic forum


    Derry wrote:
    Evening Hearld Monday 13th October says all six banks are basket cases

    http://www.herald.ie/opinion/columni...s-1497350.html

    Having been excommunicateed from this forum for two weeks for saying the economy was going down the plug hole I return to say told you so

    Now the dirt is in the open and the the so called econononists that hang here have proved that the heads were up thier

    I now mostly hang in [another website, irish with economic forums also and that isnt so full for ] where they don't back the regime in power
    Derry

    also they call naming another web site spamming

    I call it telling them they got competition that isn't so pro regime

    Derry


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,976 ✭✭✭✭humanji


    You misquoted an article, made up stuff and spammed another web site. It's not a conspiracy that you got banned. It's common sense.


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,380 ✭✭✭derry


    DubTony wrote: »
    Derry, they only deleted the post because they couldn't understand the finer points of your argument. Oh, and the fact that they got a headache trying to read it.

    Try throwing in a few commas and full stops for those boys. They'll get a better grasp of what you're trying to say then. Good man.


    If I stop and make perfect posts the subject is too old too stale
    I often go back later to edit the posts for any missing commas etc
    This stupid boards forum stops edit facility after a day or so

    Anyway how can they not understand my finer points
    its in your face no PC gobbly gook the ****ers are ripping your face

    example
    derry wrote:

    This cannot benefit the Irish but can sure as hell benefit the bankers

    welcome to the offshore banking country that own the whole poxy Island

    The Albainains had the right idea when the pyramid scheme blew up in the faces of them and they lost everything they just up sticked and took the country back
    :pac::pac::pac::pac:

    If your the typical brain washed wet behind the ears little dip stick wanna be D4 with a yellow pack job in some jumped alley cat Irish tiger company dressed in a mangy old tiger skin cant understand getting his face ripped then whats the point to cater for spelling nazi's

    Then from this its difficult to see the truth and then they prefer dive into it cant possibly be true
    Sure arn't us Irish the bee knees never make a mistake 10 jumps ahead of the germans or brits or some such fairy stories taken from some informational journal like Irish times or Indo

    Face facts the gombeen men run the gaff and the rest will pay for any bills the banks wish to dump on us
    Its called banking charges which even those without bank accounts will pay for.

    Derry


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,208 ✭✭✭Économiste Monétaire


    Derry, you're a disgrace to the human race--delusional to the extreme. You were banned, from what I could see, for writing stupid shit with no source, or acknowledgement of basic grammar and spelling that allows people to read a post, and enables discussion to flow. Well deserved.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,380 ✭✭✭derry


    humanji wrote: »
    You misquoted an article, made up stuff and spammed another web site. It's not a conspiracy that you got banned. It's common sense.


    Ok I will post the whole link up as taken from Evening Hearld for all to read
    quoted for educational purposes

    Our banks are set to lose E15bn and the bill's on us


    Dan White Home

    By Dan White

    Monday October 13 2008

    A probable €15bn bailout of the Irish banking system completely overshadows tomorrow's budget. With the state now likely to have to invest the equivalent of one year's health spending into the banks, Brian Lenihan will have to raise both taxes and borrowing to record levels.

    Just 13 days ago the Government was congratulating itself that, by unconditionally guaranteeing the deposits and bonds of the banks, it had somehow found a cost-free way of rescuing the financial system.

    bust

    Indeed, Government sources claimed that, by charging the banks a "commercial" rate for the guarantee, the exchequer would somehow end up making a profit.

    The markets quickly exposed this notion for the self-deluded nonsense that it was. After a brief rally Irish bank shares plunged once again and are now lower than where they were before the guarantee was announced.

    In real life you get nothing for nothing. The problem with the deposit guarantee was that it failed to address the key problem. This was that, after 15 years of reckless lending to builders and property developers, the six Irish-owned banks are collectively as good as bust.

    There is now no doubt that the Government will have stump up billions of taxpayers' euro to save the Irish banking system from total collapse.

    How many billions? Between them the six Irish-owned banks have lent their customers just over €400bn, of which about €310bn is secured against property.

    However, more than €150bn of this lending consists of homeloans. Recent research by Goodbody Stockbrokers suggests that by the end of next year up to 170,000 homeowners will be facing negative equity, where their home is worth less than the amount they owe on their mortgage.

    But this is not where the real problem lies. Negative equity is only a problem if you absolutely have to sell your home now or cannot keep up your repayments. For the bulk of those affected negative equity will gradually right itself as the amount owing on their mortgage falls below its value. In any event, even if the most pessimistic forecasts prove to be accurate, the majority of homeowners will still end up owing less than what their homes are worth.

    No, the real problem is the approximately €165bn which the Irish-owned banks have lent to builders and property developers. While most analysts expect defaults on residential mortgages to be relatively modest, a bloodbath looms on lending to builders and property speculators.

    insufficient

    How bad will it be? In a recent research note, Merrion Stockbrokers, whose parent Icelandic bank Landsbanki went bust last week, estimated that the four Irish banks whose shares are quoted on the Irish Stock Exchange -- AIB, Bank of Ireland, Anglo Irish and Irish Life & Permanent -- would have to write off a total of €12.7bn between now and the end of 2010.

    Add in likely bad debts on the €10bn commercial property loan book of the Irish Nationwide, which isn't listed on the stock exchange, and the total rises to as near €15bn as makes no difference. That's the equivalent of one year's government spending on the health service.

    For what it is worth, I suspect that the Merrion estimates are insufficiently pessimistic. That, however, is an argument for another day.

    Even on the basis of the Merrion estimates it is clear that, with core capital of just over €23bn, the six native banks are collectively bust.

    If they are not to collapse and bring the economy down with them they will have to be rescued. In the current climate that sort of money can only come from the Government.

    With the exchequer already facing the prospect of borrowing €15bn next year, bailing out the banks will further ravage the budget and send taxes and borrowing soaring.

    - Dan White

    now which end of the banking system did I misquote

    the line
    quoted for educational purposes

    There is now no doubt that the Government will have stump up billions of taxpayers' euro to save the Irish banking system from total collapse.

    or

    Even on the basis of the Merrion estimates it is clear that, with core capital of just over €23bn, the six native banks are collectively bust.

    Now if that doesn't say all the 6 Irish banks are basket cases at what point are they basket cases
    I wont quote line for line but it 's common sense the 6 Irish banks are basket cases

    The reason I got banned was I practice pridictive forecasts which predicted these types of newpaper articales would arrive in a few weeks

    I got banned for two weeks and the whole economy melted down
    Now there are lots of articales

    I was right and returned to say in your face I was right and now here is only one example of thousands of what I said would happen

    I get banned for predicting the truth and worse than that pridicting in advance things
    iSo thats why I got banned as that is beyond the abilities of brain dead forum moderators to understand so they blitz anything that that doesn't fit the regimes gombeen men Mantra propaganda
    All is well in Alice in wonderland hocus pocus from the Irish times or indo whatever .

    Because the regime is part of the plot to screw all us little fecks at the bottom and some forums and well placed forum moderators are part of the plot to supress the truth

    I kept copys of all my posts and if you want to I can show you the whole post on the day the regime took over the banks and the whole post which I didn't even start disapeared which shows how little respect the forum gave to the other users who started the thread never mind me adding to it

    I only posted up what i said but I didn't feel it was my place to show the other who did the disapeared post as that is their problem to bitch what happened to the post

    All because Boards are deeply embedded in the regime



    Derry


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,380 ✭✭✭derry


    UCD_Econ wrote: »
    Derry, you're a disgrace to the human race--delusional to the extreme. You were banned, from what I could see, for writing stupid shit with no source, or acknowledgement of basic grammar and spelling that allows people to read a post, and enables discussion to flow. Well deserved.

    Gotcha

    typical D4 regime brain washed

    Derry


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