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Great vid on GodTube...
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And since there isn't, I wonder how christians would react to having their religion portrayed as a causative factor in them becoming vain, suicidal substance-abusers, which is how the irreligious were portrayed in that splendidly unctuous piece of nonsense.I think such a drama would be reasonable if there were large numbers of people who, having previously being humble, generous, sober and of sound mind have experienced that their conversion to Christianity has caused them to become vain, greedy, alcohol-dependent and suicidal.
Do try this one -- it's worth itI don't watch video links in posts
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"Previously had no relationship"? Not at all. In another one of its unconsciously telling motifs, the Jesus figure in fact spends the first 90 seconds or so acting as puppet master to the heroine's marionette, and provides her with a series of gifts which seem real to her, but which are actually nothing but empty air.
OK, actually watched the video. It's pretty good, but our own youth drama team do a better version to a purely instrumental soundtrack. We have a Zimbabwean Jesus and a very scary Nigerian female Satan.
As I see it the girl represents the human race, not an individual. She is created initially puppet-like or robotic, but then receives free will as a result of having the breath of life and being made in God's image. She misuses this free will to reject God and ends up in deep doodoo. Then God, in the form of Jesus, takes her place and bears the consequences of her sin by being crucified. However, he then kicks the ass of Satan and the demons through the resurrection.
As for "imaginary gifts" and "empty air" - may I suggest you try googling 'mime'? Your criticisms are akin to criticising a black and white movie for being colourless.
Gosh you really do have a problem with people enjoying themselves, don't you?the setup for the almost-orgasmically-overplayed reunion at the end of the piece0 -
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I look forward to seeing it show up on GodtubeWe have a Zimbabwean Jesus and a very scary Nigerian female Satan.
You didn't notice that while Jesus' gifts consisted of air, all of the temptations (the bottle, the knife, the money and the gun) were represented by real props. The asymmetry suggests the choreographers are trying out some peculiar visual trope, perhaps a bit like the 'red-girl' scene in the Warsaw Ghetto in Schindler's List. Or, it could have been unintentional with the implications that this carries. Still, since the piece is as subtle as a pitchfork in the eye, I'm inclined to think it was unintentional.OK, actually watched the video.As for "imaginary gifts" and "empty air" - may I suggest you try googling 'mime'?
None of which answers the original question of how the religious would react if a gang of atheists staged an equivalent dance about the alleged dangers of religion?0 -
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Good question.You've gotten to know a few Christian posters on boards, so can you give us a clue as to what 'dangers' we pose..? What props would you use in your mime?
Modelling it on the godtube dance thingy, I suppose we'd have something like the following triptych. Lets assume we have a heroine:- Scene 1: Black-suited heroine feels her way around a darkened stage representing a universe 14 billion years old and 100 billion light years across. One by one, stagelights illuminate white-clothed dancers representing the great thinkers and their ideas. Heroine looks happy, reads many books, ideas intermingle, creating new dances, understanding and knowledge increases, begins exploring further, comes upon a church.
- Scene 2: opens door to dark church and enters, finds and reads the one book in the building, a heavy jewel-encrusted thing which some people are rote-reciting, especially the bit about the universe being 6,000 years old. Notices many tawdry smiley faces, but also that they can't hide the book's obsession with death and, as eyes adjust, heroine sees the same representation of a dead man nailed to a wooden frame in many places around the building. Flock of identically-gray-suited dancers arrive and sit, open-mouthed, listening to a purple-suited man who talks to them interminably, by turns wheedling, berating and asking for money. Occasionally, a congregant objects, but is shunned. Keeping the plot current, some monomaniacal congregants alienate old friends while one lady believes preacher to be source of all evil in world and attempts to murder preacher. Bearing in mind this, some gray-suits have abortions, suffer from STD's or get murdered themselves. Heroine has seen enough. Leaves church.
- Scene 3: Returns outside, bangs the churchly dust from her shoes, feels the strong light of the sun on her face, the wind in her hair, dances a dance to the freedom of many ideas over the tyranny of one. Returns to the ambit of the great thinkers, reads more, studies more, begins to contribute, and as the curtain falls, so does her black suit, to reveal her the same white suit that all the other dancers wear.
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Good question.
Modelling it on the godtube dance thingy, I suppose we'd have something like the following triptych. Lets assume we have a heroine:- Scene 1: Black-suited heroine feels her way around a darkened stage representing a universe 14 billion years old and 100 billion light years across. One by one, stagelights illuminate white-clothed dancers representing the great thinkers and their ideas. Heroine looks happy, reads many books, ideas intermingle, creating new dances, understanding and knowledge increases, begins exploring further, comes upon a church.
- Scene 2: opens door to dark church and enters, finds and reads the one book in the building, a heavy jewel-encrusted thing which some people are rote-reciting, especially the bit about the universe being 6,000 years old. Notices many tawdry smiley faces, but also that they can't hide the book's obsession with death and, as eyes adjust, heroine sees the same representation of a dead man nailed to a wooden frame in many places around the building. Flock of identically-gray-suited dancers arrive and sit, open-mouthed, listening to a purple-suited man who talks to them interminably, by turns wheedling, berating and asking for money. Occasionally, a congregant objects, but is shunned. Keeping the plot current, some monomaniacal congregants alienate old friends while one lady believes preacher to be source of all evil in world and attempts to murder preacher. Bearing in mind this, some gray-suits have abortions, suffer from STD's or get murdered themselves. Heroine has seen enough. Leaves church.
- Scene 3: Returns outside, bangs the churchly dust from her shoes, feels the strong light of the sun on her face, the wind in her hair, dances a dance to the freedom of many ideas over the tyranny of one. Returns to the ambit of the great thinkers, reads more, studies more, begins to contribute, and as the curtain falls, so does her black suit, to reveal her the same white suit that all the other dancers wear.
Worthy of an Order of Lenin. Well done!
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