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  • 29-09-2008 11:26am
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 166,026 ✭✭✭✭


    a bit worried about this, my girlfriend has told me her last boyfriend was bisexual and she only found out late in the relationship. she says she never had unprotected sex with him . should i be worried, am i at increased risk because of his sexuality.


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  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 6,376 Mod ✭✭✭✭Macha


    No, that's ridiculous. Although I always recommend that both partners go get a free STI check-up when starting off in a new relationship. It's free & puts everyone's mind at ease.

    Article from 4th May, 2008

    http://www.independent.ie/national-news/teens-lose-count-of-sex-partners-as-hiv-cases-rise-daily-1366624.html
    Dr Freedman says HIV is becoming increasingly prevalent in Ireland and he debunked the myth that it is predominantly being passed through homosexual partners.

    "We get about 350 cases a year, so that's roughly one a day. The majority are contracted through conventional heterosexual sex, ordinary sexual relationships. All HIV has the potential to progress to AIDS and the vast majority in Ireland is HIV type one."

    The STI expert also warned that people need to tell their doctor if they have had anal or oral sex when they attend their sexual-health check up.

    "The same goes for the throat. Oral sex is extremely popular in Dublin and unless the doctor checks the throat it's not going to be picked up. It's vitally important that anyone who has taken a risk of any sort gets checked out for all STIs, all 28 of them."

    Ireland has seen a dramatic increase in STIs in recent years. Between 1995 and 2004, the rate of STIs increased by 217 per cent. The Health Promotion Surveillance Centre has also reported that in 2006, three infectious diseases -- genital warts, chlamydia and non-specific urethritis -- accounted for 89 per cent of all STIs notified to the centre.

    Young adults in their 20s accounted for 65 per cent of all STI notification. Meanwhile, the number of individuals diagnosed with HIV in Ireland rose by 21 per cent in the first half of 2007, with heterosexuals accounting for the majority of new cases.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,401 ✭✭✭✭Anti


    You could be alright. If i were you i'd get myself to the irish equivilent of a GUM clinic and get checked out. Might be no harm for her to do it aswell.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 6,376 Mod ✭✭✭✭Macha


    Manties wrote: »
    You could be alright.

    That is an unfounded and homophobic statement to make. The bare facts show that STIs, including HIV are at higher levels and are increasing at a higher rate among heterosexual partners.This sort of scare-mongering about gays is exactly the reason why homosexuals are still not allowed to donate blood.

    OP, go get checked out but I'd be more worried about the fact that you are both young and if you two are having unprotected sex than the sexual tendencies of any past partners.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,401 ✭✭✭✭Anti


    Get the **** off your high horse. No where did i say "Dirty homos, they all have that gay aids, ya know the bad kind of aids" Christ i didnt even mention the word gay.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 166,026 ✭✭✭✭LegacyUser


    can sum1 explain whats involved with getting a full check for men? hospitals freak me out and i hate bloodtests and **** like that


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,518 ✭✭✭✭dudara


    The STI sticky at the top of this forum is packed full of information. You'll get your answer there.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 6,376 Mod ✭✭✭✭Macha


    Manties wrote: »
    Get the **** off your high horse. No where did i say "Dirty homos, they all have that gay aids, ya know the bad kind of aids" Christ i didnt even mention the word gay.

    The OP asked "am i at increased risk because of his sexuality" and your response was "you could be alright." I don't know how much clearer it has to be. Take it to Humanities if you have an issue with this.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,518 ✭✭✭✭dudara


    taconnol and Manties

    Leave it be.

    dudara


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 318 ✭✭qwertyphobia


    The rights or wrongs of peoples judgments are a side point and stastics aren't much use in this situation.

    You are feeling nervous because of this, No discusion or debate is magicialy going to change that. For yourself and partners peace of mind the obvious answer is both of you going for a full sti check up. Then you can know if either of you have any possible infections that maybe a problem and move on acordingly


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,770 ✭✭✭Bottle_of_Smoke


    glentunney wrote: »
    a bit worried about this, my girlfriend has told me her last boyfriend was bisexual and she only found out late in the relationship. she says she never had unprotected sex with him . should i be worried, am i at increased risk because of his sexuality.

    I'd be slightly more concerned, people bang out these statistics that most HIV infections are spread by hererosexuals but convieniently leave out the part that male homosexuals only make up 5% of the population. Female homosexuals of course have a lower rate of infection than female heterosexuals. It must also be noted a large percentage of heterosexual infections in Ireland are in communities coming from African countries.

    Though you're probably fine, it's more difficult for a man to contract HIV from a woman than from a man as you don't end up with semen(carries the virus) inside you.

    If she used protection with her previous partner she should also be fine. I'd still get both of you checked to put your minds at ease.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,770 ✭✭✭Bottle_of_Smoke


    charbie wrote: »
    can sum1 explain whats involved with getting a full check for men? hospitals freak me out and i hate bloodtests and **** like that

    blood test, urine sample & a quick swap of your urethra, tell the doctor if you're receiving anal sex as there might be tests for that too.

    the urethra bit is slightly uncomfortable but only lasts 2-3 seconds


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,771 ✭✭✭✭fits


    Its a good idea to get an STI check regularly and when you begin to see a new partner.
    Regardless of previous history. Its no big deal either.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 619 ✭✭✭krpc


    I agree with some of the advice here; regardless of the sexual orientation of previous partners (people can be careless / reckless regardless of whether they're heterosexual or homosexual and everything in between), go get a check up.

    First time test can result in some nerves, but after you're done, you'll wonder why you worried at all.

    Good luck :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,414 ✭✭✭kraggy


    I'd be slightly more concerned, people bang out these statistics that most HIV infections are spread by hererosexuals but convieniently leave out the part that male homosexuals only make up 5% of the population. Female homosexuals of course have a lower rate of infection than female heterosexuals. It must also be noted a large percentage of heterosexual infections in Ireland are in communities coming from African countries.

    Though you're probably fine, it's more difficult for a man to contract HIV from a woman than from a man as you don't end up with semen(carries the virus) inside you.

    If she used protection with her previous partner she should also be fine. I'd still get both of you checked to put your minds at ease.


    You've made a very large assumption there.

    A large percentage of gay/bisexual guys don't engage in anal sex of any nature.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,401 ✭✭✭✭Anti


    dudara wrote: »
    taconnol and Manties

    Leave it be.

    dudara

    I will leave it here, but i will say. In my eyes someone sleeping with both sexes has an increased chance of catching an STD, for obvious reasons :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,770 ✭✭✭Bottle_of_Smoke


    kraggy wrote: »
    You've made a very large assumption there.

    A large percentage of gay/bisexual guys don't engage in anal sex of any nature.

    I think it was pretty obvious I was talking about the ones who do. So I guess the 5% figure I quoted should actually be lower meaning the reported cases of HIV are of course going to be higher in numbers for heterosexuals.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 43,045 ✭✭✭✭Nevyn


    Manties wrote: »
    I will leave it here, but i will say. In my eyes someone sleeping with both sexes has an increased chance of catching an STD, for obvious reasons :)

    What obvious reasons ?

    OP you are not at any greater risk, but as with all new sexual relationships you
    should both consider getting tested anyway.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,401 ✭✭✭✭Anti


    Thaedydal wrote: »
    What obvious reasons ?

    OP you are not at any greater risk, but as with all new sexual relationships you
    should both consider getting tested anyway.

    Lets put this in a simple way.

    You play blackjack, you havd a 50/50 chance of loosing. You play 2 hands at the same time and.... Well im sure you get the jist of it.

    And i am not saying that gay people have aids/std's etc etc.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,314 ✭✭✭Talliesin


    glentunney wrote: »
    a bit worried about this, my girlfriend has told me her last boyfriend was bisexual and she only found out late in the relationship. she says she never had unprotected sex with him . should i be worried, am i at increased risk because of his sexuality.

    That would depend on his sexuality.

    All you know is about his sexual orientation. There's a hell of a difference between him being bi and being monogamous with her, and his being bi and being in someone else's pants ever two days.

    Just like if he was straight.
    Manties wrote: »
    You could be alright. If i were you i'd get myself to the irish equivilent of a GUM clinic and get checked out. Might be no harm for her to do it aswell.
    Manties wrote: »
    You play blackjack, you havd a 50/50 chance of loosing. You play 2 hands at the same time and.... Well im sure you get the jist of it.

    And i am not saying that gay people have aids/std's etc etc.
    No, you're saying bisexual people are all sluts.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,518 ✭✭✭✭dudara


    Manties wrote: »
    You play blackjack, you havd a 50/50 chance of loosing. You play 2 hands at the same time and.... Well im sure you get the jist of it.

    Are you trying to imply that bisexual people play both sides at the same time? The OP has said nothing that supports that.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,401 ✭✭✭✭Anti


    Talliesin wrote: »
    No, you're saying bisexual people are all sluts.

    No im not, your trying to put words in my mouth. Poor form to be honest.
    dudara wrote: »
    Are you trying to imply that bisexual people play both sides at the same time? The OP has said nothing that supports that.


    Define same time? Do you mean mixed sex threesome, or within the space off a few days?

    My thinking behind this is, the op said her partner only told her at the end that he was bi. So he could very well of been sleeping around while they were together. Thats why i said "you could be" and not "omfg aids alert"


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,518 ✭✭✭✭dudara


    Manties wrote: »
    My thinking behind this is, the op said her partner only told her at the end that he was bi. So he could very well of been sleeping around while they were together.

    He could have been sleeping around if he was straight too, in which case we'd still be giving the OP the same advice. The bisexual thing really doesn't matter.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,094 ✭✭✭✭javaboy


    Manties wrote: »
    Lets put this in a simple way.

    You play blackjack, you havd a 50/50 chance of loosing. You play 2 hands at the same time and.... Well im sure you get the jist of it.

    And i am not saying that gay people have aids/std's etc etc.

    That implies that bisexuals have twice as much sex as straight people. I'm pretty sure that while they're obviously likely to be more liberal about sex than some straight people, that doesn't mean they're having sex twice as often.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,395 ✭✭✭Marksie


    manties: stop dragging this off topic. Take it to PM or another forum.
    Last warning


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,401 ✭✭✭✭Anti


    I'm dragging it off topic ? stfu will ya. Nothing i said was off topic in anyway what so ever ! I would certainly consider Talle's post far more off topic then anything i posted... Oh wait your in their clique... i geddit. Also, what happened to the "first warning"


  • Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 42,362 Mod ✭✭✭✭Beruthiel


    Manties wrote: »
    I'm dragging it off topic ? stfu will ya. Nothing i said was off topic in anyway what so ever ! I would certainly consider Talle's post far more off topic then anything i posted... Oh wait your in their clique... i geddit. Also, what happened to the "first warning"

    Banned for a week.
    B


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