P226 Holster

MacAonghusa

Lads,
For those with pistol holsters; are CQC holsters such as the following any good?
http://ebaybanned.com/product_info.php?cPath=62_40&products_id=1649

If not can you recommend a good holster for a P226? I'm not gone on drop leg holsters, how do users find them?

Hivemind187

MacAonghusa wrote: »

Lads,
For those with pistol holsters; are CQC holsters such as the following any good?
http://ebaybanned.com/product_info.php?cPath=62_40&products_id=1649

If not can you recommend a good holster for a P226? I'm not gone on drop leg holsters, how do users find them?

Get the serpa and a STIRKE paddle as a drop leg. Cant go wrong. I have one myself.

I will say that my one sometimes doesnt seat the 226 properly but thats more down to me as a user than to the product.

MacAonghusa

Hivemind187 wrote: »

Get the serpa and a STIRKE paddle as a drop leg. Cant go wrong. I have one myself.

I will say that my one sometimes doesnt seat the 226 properly but thats more down to me as a user than to the product.

Thx, I'll check it out.


Edit: Hivemind187 This the sort of thing you mean?
http://ebaybanned.com/product_info.php?cPath=62_40&products_id=1021

Edit 2: pasted wrong link, same as VTECs below.

Masada

+1 on the serpa, its the best holster i've ever used, fobus included.,
this is the drop leg panel you need,.

http://ebaybanned.com/product_info.php?cPath=62_40&products_id=1021

MacAonghusa

Thanks lads!

Tigger

i bought this yoke
its re al mil spec fits perfectly works perfectly
buy one

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2055381565

if you like drop leg thenthe one vtec is showing you is good but i find the fobus easier to run with

NakedHedgehog

Agreed on the Blackhawk CQC Serpa. I've had mine (genuine Blackhawk- not replica) for the past 3 years and love it to bits.

In fact it's so good that my choice of sidearm will be directly influenced by whether or not there is a CQC holster for it.

(Note: the below is for the real-deal Blackhawk holster and not for the replica - I am not sure what comes with the replica or if it works the same as the BHI version).

It's extremely versatile and adaptable. It's very quick drawing and since your trigger finger releases the "catch" you're ready to fire right away.

It comes with:
- a paddle which you can clip on and off your trousers and belt in about two seconds or fit more firmly on your first-line's belt
- a belt adaptor which you can loop a belt through

In additon you have the drop-leg mount, if that's your thing - or the STRIKE CQC panel adaptor (http://www.optactical.com/blstcqcpl.html) which allows you to clip your holster onto your PALS webbing at any angle.

On top of all of that the holster's angle itself can be tilted forward or backward to suit your drawing style and position. It's a very clever piece of kit.

Personally I have tried all three mounting methods and have come full circle to the belt. I've got it attached (with the paddle since it's more comfortable imo) to my first-line belt - quick to draw, can crawl if necessary and doesn't interfere with my movements, which I found the drop leg to do a bit.

To be honest though, I'm not sure why you'd buy the replica version if for five dollars more you can buy the real Blackhawk version and give money to those that actually came up with it and have a good quality holster designed for real soldiers and the punishment they'd give it -- rather than some knock-off group stealing good ideas and probably of less quality than the CQC.

Masada

Tigger wrote: »

i bought this yoke
its re al mil spec fits perfectly works perfectly
buy one

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2055381565

if you like drop leg thenthe one vtec is showing you is good but i find the fobus easier to run with

Those Fobus holsters are brilliant, i have a glock one myself. but one of the bad things is when you have to wear it on the belt and have a bandolier or bulky vest on nad it gets in the way, also the fact that the gun locks into it and ya need to give it a good pull out, especially if the holsters new., if im packing light i'll usually wear the fobus on my side though.,

NakedHedgehog

Out of curiosity, why not just use the CQC on your belt instead?

Masada

you can do, but i find its more comfy on the leg. then you the space to have a dump pouch etc on your belt., its whatever is comfy for an individual i suppose.,

Tigger

vtec wrote: »

Those Fobus holsters are brilliant, i have a glock one myself. but one of the bad things is when you have to wear it on the belt and have a bandolier or bulky vest on nad it gets in the way, also the fact that the gun locks into it and ya need to give it a good pull out, especially if the holsters new., if im packing light i'll usually wear the fobus on my side though.,

op said he dosent like drop leg

also i frind a glock fine in a drop leg but hate the sig in one

too heavy

MacAonghusa

Thanks for all the replies lads, much appreciated! Gives me something to think about.

NakedHedgehog: would you recommend the panel adaptor?
I like the idea of being able to switch the gun to the front of my chest rig when the mood suits.

Where do ye lads mount your spare mag? The pouch on the drop leg system doesn't seem too practical.

Puding

Would like to recommend the Serpa as well, i got the real one after buying the usp version from ebaybanned and having troubles with the fit but loving the design and feel of the Serpa.

I love the versatility, the standard drop leg unit is really practical and comfy where as you can easily change to a belt mounted or molle mounted with simple cheap adapters.

NakedHedgehog

Yeah, the STRIKE panel adaptor works pretty well. It's easy and quick to attach/detach and holds the holster in place firmly. Plus with PALS webbing and this thing you can put it anywhere on your vest.

I keep my spare mags in pouches attached to my (MOLLE) chestrig.

MacAonghusa

NakedHedgehog wrote: »

Yeah, the STRIKE panel adaptor works pretty well. It's easy and quick to attach/detach and holds the holster in place firmly. Plus with PALS webbing and this thing you can put it anywhere on your vest.
I keep my spare mags in pouches attached to my (MOLLE) chestrig.

Thanks. This is basically what i'm going for, it'd be handy for certain scenarios.

NakedHedgehog

Yup - that'll work fine with the CQC. Since there's no "tugging" you wont be pulling your vest around either. You can fine tune the angle as well.

Go for it! You wont regret it.

Masada

You can get one of these from RSOV pretty cheap., the Serpa holster just screws onto it and then its attaches to a molle platform.,



http://www.rsov.com/index.php?target=products&product_id=2131

http://www.rsov.com/index.php?target=products&product_id=2130

MacAonghusa

NakedHedgehog wrote: »

Yup - that'll work fine with the CQC. Since there's no "tugging" you wont be pulling your vest around either. You can fine tune the angle as well.
Go for it! You wont regret it.

Think I will, thanks.

vtec wrote: »

You can get one of these from RSOV pretty cheap., the Serpa holster just screws onto it and then its attaches to a molle platform.,
http://www.rsov.com/index.php?target=products&product_id=2131
http://www.rsov.com/index.php?target=products&product_id=2130

Don't suppose you know the dimensions of the platform? The molle space on my vest is very limited, I think these might be too big. Thx for the suggestion though.

Masada

I havent a clue man,.ive seen them though and they dont look all that big., judge it by the size of the 2 molle straps on there and you can tell its failrly compact.,

MacAonghusa

vtec wrote: »

I havent a clue man,.ive seen them though and they dont look all that big., judge it by the size of the 2 molle straps on there and you can tell its failrly compact.,

Ok, thanks. I'll have to measure my vest anyway, it think it's a fairly small molle area.

NakedHedgehog

The platform is about 3x3 (PALS loops wide and long). It would fit where you want to mount your holster. It's okay, but I'd still go for the STRIKE thing. I've tried both and didn't like the panel much at all.

It doesn't latch as tightly to your vest so it moves around too much and drags down from the weight of the P226 as well.

Edit: They really did copy absolutely everything SERPA CQC related, didn't they?!

MacAonghusa

NakedHedgehog wrote: »

The platform is about 3x3 (PALS loops wide and long). It would fit where you want to mount your holster. It's okay, but I'd still go for the STRIKE thing. I've tried both and didn't like the panel much at all.

It doesn't latch as tightly to your vest so it moves around too much and drags down from the weight of the P226 as well.

Edit: They really did copy absolutely everything SERPA CQC related, didn't they?!

The molle platform I have is only 3 loops high with a zipped pocket underneath so I can't afford to have anything hang loose. I'll go with the plastic thingy.

Keggers

I was looking at buying a holster with the P226 in mind as well does anyone have any idea what this: http://www.mainirishairsoft.com/scripts/prodView.asp?idproduct=388 is like?

Tigger

i hate mine

hate it

MacAonghusa

Keggers wrote: »

I was looking at buying a holster with the P226 in mind as well does anyone have any idea what this: http://www.mainirishairsoft.com/scripts/prodView.asp?idproduct=388 is like?

"takes virtually all pistols in black or olive green"

What if your gun is silver?

Someone mentioned before that "universal" holsters aren't great but it's fully adjustable so should suit. Though the P226 does seem bulky compared to others i've tried.

Keggers

Tigger wrote: »

i hate mine

hate it

Why?

Masada

I hate them too., their really bulky and move around a lot on your leg. they also dont hold the gun nearly as well as their supposed to., cant beat a "gun specific" holster.,

Fallschirmjager

i got a real cqc for a tm (with metal) 226 -- fits like a glove. i attached it to a ebaybanned leg platform and it fitted perfectly.

i also got a foliage green holster for a m9 from a company called ecop and it fits perfectly as well.

Keggers

I was never big on leg platforms...

what about this one?: http://www.mainirishairsoft.com/scripts/prodView.asp?idproduct=385

kinkstr

Id go with a fobus, from my experience of "universal" holsters id stay clear and get a holster specific for your gun. I havent used one of those ones from ebaybanned but ive ran around skirmishing with a glock in a fobus and its as secure as it needs to be.

NakedHedgehog

Keggers, if you're not in to leg platforms, why get one?

Really, honestly, hand on heart - the Blackhawk CQC Serpa is the best holster I have ever come across.
If you're getting a P226, why not get it?

It can do EVERYTHING you want it do. Leg mount, PALS webbing mount, belt mount. Anything. There really is no use getting crappy universal holsters if you know you're getting a P226.

Keggers

Then maybe I will give it a go:D:D:D

MacAonghusa

Keggers wrote: »

Then maybe I will give it a go:D:D:D

Just get it Keggers or you'll make him angry! You wouldn't like him when he's angry!

Keggers

:D:D

Sam Fisher

Have all three holsters (fobus, serpa and the universal). Normally I wear the Fobus on the waist and it's the best out of all three. Unfortunately, can't use it on leg (as Vtec has mentioned). Hence the Serpa on the platform. I use the Blackhawk ones. Have serpa for Glock 19, Sig 229, Para P.14 and M9. Slight problem with Serpa is that some GBBs don't fit nicely into it. Mostly depends on the make of the GBB and if the release button doesn't click properly on the Serpa, then it's useless. Lost my Para once out of the Serpa, (but thanks to Conor who found it!) That leaves us the "universal". Unless you have a hand full of GBBs and can't afford to get individual holsters, then yes. Any other circumstances, don't. It's not worth it.

Tigger

Sam Fisher wrote: »

......wear the Fobus ...it's the best out of all three.

edited to reflect my p[ersonla bias

NakedHedgehog

What method of retention does the Fobus use?
Does it have any retention catch like the CQC? If so how do you release it? All this talk about fobus is making me curious.

I've never had a problem with the TM P226 in my Serpa CQC.
The catch latches into the trigger guard every time and does not come loose unless you disengage it. I've never lost it out of the holster - even after ending up dangling up side down (don't ask).

Was the CQC designed for the GBB you put into it?

Tigger

NakedHedgehog wrote: »

What method of retention does the Fobus use?
Does it have any retention catch like the CQC? If so how do you release it? All this talk about fobus is making me curious.

I've never had a problem with the TM P226 in my Serpa CQC.
The catch latches into the trigger guard every time and does not come loose unless you disengage it. I've never lost it out of the holster - even after ending up dangling up side down (don't ask).

Was the CQC designed for the GBB you put into it?

fobus is an interferance fit
the pistol has to be snapped out and in
its very stable and very well held

i find it excellent for running etc

thing about the kjw 226's is they are very heavy

thing about fobus tho is its designed for stability and concelement so its not as quick on the draw as a blackhawk

but i just feel both sides of the argument should be given

on the other hand i use two aegs in all my loadouts except my black ops / stealth loadout which is a p90 backed up with a nbb oj chest rig (for the stealth) so i don't need a quick draw 226

Fallschirmjager

NakedHedgehog wrote: »

even after ending up dangling up side down (don't ask).

okay, i resisted as long as i can...er, dangling upside down...?? huh!? was it some type of arnie/predator home built airsoft thing or some weird personal fetish LOL

Masada

yeah it basically just clamps the gun at the trigger gaurd. their a bastid when their brand new. sometimes they just wont let go of the pistol, a hairdrier sorts that though.,

NakedHedgehog

Did you ever find the top slide of the P226 being pushed back by the fobus?
If I understand it correctly; it holds it there because it's very tight? There's no actual mechanical retention going on? (Maybe I need to have a look over one of these next time I'm out skirmishing).

On an aside - which is better KJW P226 or TM P226?
I suck at grasping which of the GBB makers are the better.

As for dangling upside down - I had slung my rifle on my back to climb over a fence. The rifle got stuck in the fence, pinning me with it, up side down. All very amusing - especially as there were about 10 others desperately trying to tear down the fence to get away from the 100+ enemies that were stampeding through the undergrowth towards us.
We did take out a hell of a lot of them before we collectively decided to run like hell execute a tactical withdrawal .

Masada

remind me next time you up and i'll show ya mine.,:)

Tigger

NakedHedgehog wrote: »

Did you ever find the top slide of the P226 being pushed back by the fobus?
If I understand it correctly; it holds it there because it's very tight? There's no actual mechanical retention going on? (Maybe I need to have a look over one of these next time I'm out skirmishing).

On an aside - which is better KJW P226 or TM P226?
I suck at grasping which of the GBB makers are the better.

As for dangling upside down - I had slung my rifle on my back to climb over a fence. The rifle got stuck in the fence, pinning me with it, up side down. All very amusing - especially as there were about 10 others desperately trying to tear down the fence to get away from the 100+ enemies that were stampeding through the undergrowth towards us.
We did take out a hell of a lot of them before we collectively decided to run like hell execute a tactical withdrawal .

no it clips in and out

kjw are nice because they are very satisfying to shoot

MacAonghusa

Tigger wrote: »

no it clips in and out

Is it hard to release? Would it need to be on a fairly sturdy belt to use?

Tigger

no it pulls out quick

it won't work on a chest rig tho but i was using velcro on my chest rigs and thats a joke

as one player put it
""i heard yer velcro you twat"

get the blackhawk but i would advise to always but genuine gear
the plastic knock offs are false economy

Masada

i have the copy blackhawk serpa myself, cant fault it at all., id challenge anyone to tell the difference between it and the real thing.,

NakedHedgehog

Yeah, but for five dollars more - can you really justify not buying the real thing?
Go on - help the US economy!



(It's probably made in Taiwan)

MacAonghusa

Tigger wrote: »

no it pulls out quick

I've it bookmarked anyway so will deffo look at it again in future.
Fow now i've ordered the blackhawk.

it won't work on a chest rig tho but i was using velcro on my chest rigs and thats a joke

Tigger wrote: »

as one player put it
""i heard yer velcro you twat"