monaghan girl dropped for final for playing other sports

shiibata

Was wondering is there more to this than whats wrote down below, seems to have played other sports all sumer, then dropped for final:eek:


Meanwhile, controversial claims emerged this week suggesting a player was unfairly dropped from the panel six days before the ladies blue ribbon event. Clones mother Yvonne Newell told the Monaghan Post yesterday that her 17-year-old daughter, Michaela, was let go from the panel last Monday (Sept 22).
“The reason given was that she had not attended training sufficiently and was ‘lacking in commitment’. Michaela’s commitment should never have been questioned as against my advice and wishes she also refused to go to weddings, our family holidays had to be cut short and Michaela also abstained from many social nights of celebrations, so that her GAA would not suffer and her commitment would never be questioned,” said Mrs Newell.
She believes Michaela may have been dropped due to her soccer commitments. Michaela is on the Monaghan United Ladies Soccer Team, which won the National Intermediate Cup Final on Sunday last (Sept 21).
“We feel this is not the way to treat a young team player who has worked so hard and given up so much. I fail to understand why she was ‘dropped’ from the team so far into the season and only six days from such an event. If soccer was an issue, why at this point and not before?” said Yvonne.
Mrs Newell said her daughter’s dedication to sport was an inspiration to others. In addition to the county panel, Michaela plays for Clones Ladies GFC at minor and senior level and represents Largy College in basketball and Gaelic football.
“If the GAA wants to encourage young people to be involved in its traditions, this is not the way to treat them. Those given management positions over such young members of our sporting community should be able to demonstrate tact and empathy when dealing with this vulnerable age group,” Mrs Newell concluded.
Mrs Newell has penned a letter to the ladies management team outlining her concerns however, she is wishing the team well for Sunday’s game. Ladies Manager John McAleer was unavailable for comment when the Monaghan Post tried to contact him yesterday.
Croke Park will also play host this Sunday to Derry and London in the Junior Ladies Final at 12pm and Clare and Tipperary in the Intermediate Ladies Final at 2pm. Throw-in for the Senior match between Monaghan and Cork is at 4pm

Mossy Monk

She wasn't actually dropped for playing soccer. That is what her mother believes.

yahoo_moe

Exactly - not exactly a neutral source.

She could claim her daughter had been dropped for being called Michaela but it wouldn't necessarily be true.

Grudaire

Don't you know how reporters work:

yahoo_moe wrote: »

Exactly - not exactly a neutral source.

She could claim her daughter had been dropped for being called Michaelabut it wouldn't necessarily be true.

Happy days, new story!

helpisontheway

Mossy Monk wrote: »

She wasn't actually dropped for playing soccer. That is what her mother believes.

Sounds like your close to the scenario?

homerjay2005

lads, is she hot?

is she any good, like, was she on the starting 15 before now?

taidghbaby

happened to me before......refused to play for them again after that!!!

Crash Bang Wall

All in all though its a tad harsh to be dropped 6 days before the biggest game of the year!!!

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smashey

Crash Bang Wall, you're new here so I would advise you to read the charter before you post again.

Orizio

I don't care who you are, whatever age, sport or level, if you don't go to training you deserve to get dropped.

Simply as that.

Crash Bang Wall

Apologies to anyone who may have been offended etc etc, wont happen again

Mossy Monk

helpisontheway wrote: »

Sounds like your close to the scenario?

Not at all. I don't believe everything that is written by a reporter.

newballsplease

Orizio wrote: »

I don't care who you are, whatever age, sport or level, if you don't go to training you deserve to get dropped.

Simply as that.

maybe the girl had soccer training the same day as gaelic, and as her final in the soccer was coming up, she chose to attend that.

it would be amazing to be in two places at once.

phil

Orizio wrote: »

I don't care who you are, whatever age, sport or level, if you don't go to training you deserve to get dropped.

Simply as that.

I don't care who you think you are, but you've obviously never participated in multiple sports at a high level that clash. I won't comment on this particular story, but I can tell you now, playing two sports to a high level is extremely difficult... when the seasons overlap as they do here, it's pretty much goodbye life. It's a constant battle between coaches with different agendas and your life feels full of excuses. Hope this isn't why she was dropped, but currently it's just speculation from her mother.

byhookorbycrook

if she was missing training..then tough luck, whatever her mother chooses to believe

rebel girl 15

If she was any good, her soccer etc would be accomadated within the Gaelic team. There could have been an issue with numbers, as each team can only have a certain number of subs for the game, and a certain number of Croke park passes, so to say that she was dropped is a bit misleading.

Also given the fact of her age, she should not be playing senior - there was no mention of her playing minor, wonder why?

Orizio

phil wrote: »

I don't care who you think you are, but you've obviously never participated in multiple sports at a high level that clash. I won't comment on this particular story, but I can tell you now, playing two sports to a high level is extremely difficult... when the seasons overlap as they do here, it's pretty much goodbye life. It's a constant battle between coaches with different agendas and your life feels full of excuses. Hope this isn't why she was dropped, but currently it's just speculation from her mother.

You actually believe its fair on the players who do train to allow players who don't train play on a team?

Of course its not.

rebel girl 15

I know its not fair on other players - but if she was good enough, she would be there. I know I have had one training session for soccer, then going to a football training session straight after it

blablabla123

I fellow monaghan ladies for years but after this news i soon quit following them, I researched into what happened and she was dropped for attending her soccer final before instead of training with the county, however aftr chating to the county trainer keiron whos wive players soccer with michaela he informed me that he explained to the manager about the match and all was ok. She played county since she was 10, big promises of her potential in the future, she was minor captain nd wen they lost in the all ireland semi to tyrone the senior manager called michaela up to gain experience at senior level because playing with senior players will mould her into a great player in 1 or 2 yrs time. She was essential in the soccer team and had her final, she was on the county seniors at 17yrs old to gain experience and now the talented girl whas decided never to play for them again. The training quit after the final because of the injustice. at 17 she should have been cared for and protected not kicked to the curb. She had to endure banners around the town being taking down and all the posters within her school where removed so she did not have to tolerate the humiliation. I recently followed her progress in gaelic and she won a college all star last year and player of the year at her university. wel done John mc aleer for letting this one go... absolute disgrace...

hisholinessnb

Its a fact that people are pressured to stop playing in other codes.

When I was younger I played soccer and GAA and the local soccer manager told the lads who also played GAA to stop or they would no longer be picked for the soccer team.

People would have you believe the GAA are the only organisation at this.

Fandango

Simply, the manager of a team doesnt give a rats if someone plays multiple sports, so long as they are available for his team. Why should he make allowances for someone which may adversely affect his own team? Im not saying this girls performance in GAA was sufferring because of other sports she plays but if it is the case, the manager is well within his rights to make the decision to drop her. Her busy sporting schedule isnt his concern, his team are. If you choose to play 2 sports, eventually they will collide and one will suffer altho obviously there is the odd exception that manages to juggle the 2.

rebel girl 15

Lads ye do realise that this thread is over 2 years old!

Clareman

I was going to lock it, but there's nothing in the charter about thrawling out old threads and most GAA discussion is good discussion

Fandango

I was replying to blablabla123's post which i think is still valid as players are still let go because of this and to be honest, if they cant put 100% into all teams they play for, its time to choose or else the manager will choose for them.

corcaighabu92

Fandango wrote: »

Simply, the manager of a team doesnt give a rats if someone plays multiple sports, so long as they are available for his team. Why should he make allowances for someone which may adversely affect his own team? Im not saying this girls performance in GAA was sufferring because of other sports she plays but if it is the case, the manager is well within his rights to make the decision to drop her. Her busy sporting schedule isnt his concern, his team are. If you choose to play 2 sports, eventually they will collide and one will suffer altho obviously there is the odd exception that manages to juggle the 2.

If you look at the likes of Eoin Cadogan. He only gives 50% of his time to hurling and the other 50% to football. So are you saying he should be dropped. He cant give 100% of his time to both but he is still on both panels because he is good enough. If that young girl had anything to offer that might change a game she should have been kept on the panel. It wasnt as if she decided to stay at home and watch TV instead of training. I presume that anytime she wasnt able to train for the football she had to train with her soccer team.

Fandango

Fandango wrote: »

Why should he make allowances for someone which may adversely affect his own team? Im not saying this girls performance in GAA was sufferring because of other sports she plays but if it is the case, the manager is well within his rights to make the decision to drop her.

corcaighabu92 wrote: »

he is still on both panels because he is good enough.

As above, if it adversely affects the team then yes. If he is good enough that the team is still stronger with him there then no. Its fairly straight forward. If the manager decided that this girls game was sufferring because she was missing training then why wouldnt he replace her with someone who is fitter and sharper?

aDeener

hisholinessnb wrote: »

Its a fact that people are pressured to stop playing in other codes.

When I was younger I played soccer and GAA and the local soccer manager told the lads who also played GAA to stop or they would no longer be picked for the soccer team.

People would have you believe the GAA are the only organisation at this.

yes the anti-gaa brigade are quite loud about this and they always fail to realise that managers in whatever sport they follow do the same