Part worn tyres in Cork area?

Top Dog

I got 4 new tyres fitted back at the start of July. Got the tracking done at the same time, and noticed immediately that the car was pulling to the left. I put it down to the car (being 13 years old and approaching 100k) and gave the tyre place the benefit of the doubt, figuring they wouldn't send me on my way with my tracking f**ked.

Last Friday I spotted the inside shoulder of my right front tyre completly destroyed. Outside and center fine, but inside only a matter of time before it went.

Sure enough, while on my way to the city this morning it let go.







The chunk gone from the outside wall was from driving on it. It let go on one of the climbing lane sections of the main road to Cork so I had to keep driving due to no hard shoulder or area to pull in.

Anyway, I now need to find a part worn 205-45-16 tyre to replace it (and somewhere that can actually track a car properly :rolleyes:) so does anyone have any recommendations? I don't want to buy a new tyre as the other 3 were all replaced at the same time and usually I prefer to replace tyres in pairs at the same time. Don't want the imbalance of a brand new tyre on just the one corner.

Oh and by Cork area I'm talking City/Mallow/Buttevant/Kanturk/Charleville

Avns1s

Could you replace the two and keep the other part worn one as a spare.

I'd be very wary of using a part worn tyre, especially one I wouldn't absolutely know the history of. It's not worth the risk of what might happen because of previous damage.

snowman707

it is late & i have just finished an 16 hour day #

am i reading this correct ?

you knowingly drove on that tyre for almost a week ?????????


it is not a tyre centre you want

YOU NEED TO SEE A F**CKING SHRINK & GET YOUR HEAD EXAMINED

Top Dog

You almost read correct. I've KNOWN about the tyre for a week. I haven't been driving much though with work and other things, so tried by old means (friends/phone) to find a replacement. Came up empty (not exactly a common size) so posting up here now.

Figured the worn tyre was a better bet than the crappy space saver thats in its place now. Knew that when it went it'd be a gradual deflation and not a blow out - and before anyone jumps on me for making this assumption, I was right so please don't bother.

Avns1s - I could replace 2, though I'm not sure if I can stretch to it. Last one I bought in that size was €120, so double it would be a big sting in the wallet that I hadn't budgeted for (if I'm honest I don't know if my wallet actually could stretch to an unforeseen €240 + tracking bill this week.) Hence my considering a part-worn. I wouldn't see it as any different to buying a used set of alloys with tyres on them. I wouldn't know their history either, but a quick inspection should identify most risks.

Esel

You definitely need to get your head felt, mate. :eek:

Top Dog

Thanks for the vague, and ultimately useless post. :rolleyes:

At least snowman actually cited something in his criticism of me.

FuzzyWuzzyWazza

Are the wheels too big for the car??? could be spaced wrong maybe??

45 is a bit of a rare size, used to have a set of 205-45-17 myself, so I know how hard it is to source, might be easier getting 50 or 55, if these won't fit I would suggest that the wheel is too big for the car and that may be the problem.

Top Dog

Thanks for the post fuzzy. When I got the car it had 205-55 tyres on it which were too big - hence the change to 205-45 to get the correct rolling radius. I did drive it for about 5 months on the oversize tyres and there was no uneven wear, pulling to the side or anything. The only slight problems were the speedo being slightly out and a little rubbing in the front arches on full steering lock.

The only thing that prompted me to change all 4 wheels was destroying the sidewall of one tyre on a rock at the edge of the road. I'd already ordered 2 tyres online and then found myself forced to get another 2 so the car wasn't messed up with different profile tyres.

The other front tyre is perfect - well, evenly worn after 3 months driving, so I'm convinced that when the tracking was done the camber angle of the front right was set up incorrectly. There are spacers on the front alright to correct the offset (I've a Mk3 Golf running Mk4 wheels). Considering that only 1 of 4 tyres fitted at the same time had severe wear (and I check the air pressures at least every 2 weeks) then I can't see the size being the issue.

craichoe

A. Why are you putting that type of tyre on your car when you live in an around : City/Mallow/Buttevant/Kanturk/Charleville. How many potholes are around there ?

B. The tracking must have been REALLY off to wear down the tyre that much, i'd look at getting other bits and pieces checked out, its possible that no amount of adjustment will fix that.

Mr.David

Yeah, get the whole suspension setup properly checked. Running it on the bigger tyres would induce higher loads in the knuckle and hence the other suspension components so maybe there is some underlying damage. I mean, that tracking is miles out!

cashmni1

call the garage where they were supposed to track your car. Tell them the story, and demand a tyre. It is their fault after all. They should have told you the concequences of not getting the car tyres tracked after a new set is put on, or did they warn you?
The tyres didn't wear like that until they fitted new tyres. Now look whats after happening.
By the way, it will be cheaper in the long run to get 2 new tyres and keep the existing partly worn tyre as a spare. Espically with the odd sizes.
Anyway, I'm sorry for your troubles and have to apologise for the idiots that just posted that you need your head examined. Whether you do or not is irrlivant, it dosn't help the situation.
This is the reason I couldn't be bothered reading stuff on Motors anymore. Someone puts up a question and gets ridiculed for their mistake. It's like shcool for motorists.
It gets old.

Top Dog

craichoe wrote: »

A. Why are you putting that type of tyre on your car when you live in an around : City/Mallow/Buttevant/Kanturk/Charleville. How many potholes are around there ?

B. The tracking must have been REALLY off to wear down the tyre that much, i'd look at getting other bits and pieces checked out, its possible that no amount of adjustment will fix that.

A) What sort of tyre? Low profile? Yup, there are plenty of potholes about, but isn't that true of most of the country? Our other car runs 205-40-17 and never had any issues. Just drive for the conditions really and avoid as many holes as possible.

Agree the tracking must have been severly off. I'm just holding on to the hope that since there was no abnormal wear BEFORE the tracking was supposedly corrected, that reversing what was done before will have the alignment straight again.

Mr.David wrote: »

Yeah, get the whole suspension setup properly checked. Running it on the bigger tyres would induce higher loads in the knuckle and hence the other suspension components so maybe there is some underlying damage. I mean, that tracking is miles out!

As above. Will be getting them to check everything now when getting tracked again.

cashmni1 wrote: »

call the garage where they were supposed to track your car. Tell them the story, and demand a tyre. It is their fault after all. They should have told you the concequences of not getting the car tyres tracked after a new set is put on, or did they warn you?
The tyres didn't wear like that until they fitted new tyres. Now look whats after happening.
By the way, it will be cheaper in the long run to get 2 new tyres and keep the existing partly worn tyre as a spare. Espically with the odd sizes.
Anyway, I'm sorry for your troubles and have to apologise for the idiots that just posted that you need your head examined. Whether you do or not is irrlivant, it dosn't help the situation.
This is the reason I couldn't be bothered reading stuff on Motors anymore. Someone puts up a question and gets ridiculed for their mistake. It's like shcool for motorists.
It gets old.

I would go back to the fitters, but given that 3 months have elapsed (and this is Ireland) I know they'd just deny any wrongdoing and probably blame it on potholes. Its obvious that they set the front up waaaay off, but it'd be hard to prove and they'll just deny it. Don't ya know its the Irish way

They didn't have to warn me of the importance of getting the tracking done, they did it for me (and charged me too). What basically happened was I got 2 tyres fitted on a Thursday (to the rear), the tyres I ordered online arrived on the Friday so I got them fitted and the tracking set up on the Sunday. All should have been rosy and I should have seen 15,000 miles out of them all without problem.

I dunno if you might have gotten confused with all the posts, but there's no different size tyres on the car now (excluding the sexy black spacesaver). They're 205-45-16 all round. Hence the problem with keeping the existing tyre as a spare - I'll only run into the same problem down the line when I have one part worn tyre and nothing to match it with.

Will see. If I've no luck today or tomorrow I might have to bite the bullet and get a pair of new tyres. Though I'm due to go to the UK on Wed so I might be able to pick them up cheaper over there. Ebay here I come:D

Avns1s

The cause may not be totally tracking.

Is the corresponding tyre on the same axle equally or at least somewhat worn similarly? If not you could be looking at damaged suspension components on that side you have shown us.

JimmyCrackCorn!

The only time iv seen tyres wear like that was with a bent suspension trailing arm. You need to find the problem i dont think that kind of wear is down to only tracking and its definatly a safty issue.


You are a nutter by the way to drive on them. Just in case you had any dout after the above posts

Owen

To answer your question about where to buy cheap tires, try EPT in Ballincollig. Egon is an agent for Eiretyres, and is about as cheap, without resorting to part worn as you can get.

For your own sake, buy new tires, and get the vehicle checked out.

snowman707

JimmyCrackCorn! wrote: »

The only time iv seen tyres wear like that was with a bent suspension trailing arm. You need to find the problem i dont think that kind of wear is down to only tracking and its definatly a safty issue.


You are a nutter by the way to drive on them. Just in case you had any dout after the above posts

I notice I have been called an idiot for my comments earlier .


I had 1 experience of a blow out on a tyre that nothing as poor as the picture

no control & 3 young children walking towards you in the grass margin is a scary scenario , luckily I had done a bit of hotrod racing & experience gained which saved the day

From that day not 1 of the family or staff are allowed drive on rubber less than 3mm across the full width of the tyre, & all tyres are visually checked every few days

TOP DOG. I hope you get the problem sorted & didn't mean to be harsh with you, but I still think you were foolish to drive that car on a public road.

Top Dog

Who called you an idiot snowman? Hope you don't think I did.

Bought new tyres for it today, and have it booked in for proper alignment and checking of components late next week (everywhere booked up or closed this weekend for the Cork 20).

For those who asked, the corresponding front tyre was perfectly evenly worn, as are the 2 rears. It was only the front right that got destroyed. Will be getting the suspension and components on that corner checked next week as I don't want to be destroying another tyre in record time.

The guy who fit the tyres was stunned that only 1 tyre was so badly worn, and suggested that somehow while doing the tracking, the last place screwed up the camber angle on that corner. He didn't have the equipment to set proper camber which is why it wasn't done today.

delma_s

late answer, but the camber has nothing with tyre worn, make any camber degree and do good tracking for that camber, will be so good, the problem, is that loads of tyre place dont know how to do good tracking

Kenny Logins

delma_s wrote: »

late answer, but the camber has nothing with tyre worn, make any camber degree and do good tracking for that camber, will be so good, the problem, is that loads of tyre place dont know how to do good tracking

Over 5 years late.

Soarer

And still no recommendation for part worn tyres in the Cork area!

Kenny Logins

Soarer wrote: »

And still no recommendation for part worn tyres in the Cork area!

Kellehers? :pac:

Supraman

Theres a fella on boreenmanna road behind jerh o connors funeral home in same premises . Has a good selection of sizes in part worns . They look decent too . Ajs tyres 087<snip>

biko

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