Uk Building regs Vs. Irish

jozi

Is there a whole lot of difference between Uk and Irish regs? Would i be wrong in saying that Irish regs are based a lot on Uk regs?

Are they available to download as pdf anywhere?

EDIT: I think this is them here

smashey

jozi wrote: »

Is there a whole lot of difference between Uk and Irish regs? Would i be wrong in saying that Irish regs are based a lot on Uk regs?

Are they available to download as pdf anywhere?

EDIT: I think this is them here

That's the UK version alright. There are similarities but you should compare the two.

RKQ

I would say its safe to say our Building Regulations are based on the UK Regs, certainly in 1991 up to about 1997 / 2000. TGD A,M, and K etc.

All our regulations refer to British Standards, so it makes sense that they are similar as our climate and traditional construction methods / details are very similar.

TGD B and certainly TGD L haved delevoped slightly differently to UK. So its always useful to keep an eye on both sets of regulations and Scotlands Building Regs as well.

jozi

I was thinking they where quite similar alright.

Reason i was asking was because i'm talking to an architect and he asked me did i know muc habout uk regs as he has some work there.

DOCARCH

Just be careful what you mean by 'UK'. Yes Irish Regs are pretty much based on English Regs but Scotland have their own regulations which in some instances can be quite different.

I heard of one English architect doing a job in Scotland - windows were designed and ordered on English Building Regulations - Scottish Building Control officer comes out - non-complaince - all had to be changed!

jozi

I'd think he'd be talking about England, but i'll keep an eye on it if i get the job.

Thanks

Mellor

Best of luck with the work Jozi,
I understand your year are hit pretty bad

jozi

Mellor wrote: »

Best of luck with the work Jozi,
I understand your year are hit pretty bad

Yeah it's a little hearth breaking hearing about past students getting jobs handed to them (as did i last year but they didn't have the work to take me and a few others on) and now we can't find anything at all really. There's 2 or 3 from the year that found jobs. Few are going on to do architecture, few going/gone to London the rest searching or doing something else.

Your a past student as well?

Retro-Fit

Its a pity, the colleges wouldn't run courses to up-skill technicians to become energy experts. I heard of someone who got an energy assesment done on her house. The assesor walked around, charged 300 euro and told them things they already knew, but missed some blatently major energy losses like the gaping holes in the fabric caused by services penetrations , downlights and the lack of pressure in the rads. It turns out the assessor was an estate agent retrained as an assessor. Technicians know how buildings are put together and hw plumbed services work. There will be a demand for competent people in the field of building energy, so don't export our techies on the hoof to England and Saudi Arabia. You could, if you had the money, just do all the courses in energy assessment and building testing and becme an assessor

The RIAI has not provided sufficient guidance to its members to prepare to deal with the avalange of new legislation in Energy and ventilation and sustainable water use and waste water treatment, embodied energy, passive houses. An independant and integrated approach to using scientific methds of analysis to determine the best methods of achieving compliance and budget is required and who better to provide this. Besides there will be little demand for graduate Architectural technicians in the future in this country as the 3 new architecture courses pour out graduates as competant in computer skills and technical ability and likely to be cheaper than Techies. A sustainable design level 8 add on is needed urgently for the Arch tech course to remain viable. Some of the most knowledgable and able experts operating in the sustainable design field are from an Architectural Technology background, lets take advantage of this. There will soon be a demand for a new discipline some are referring to as 'Ecotect'. Jay Stuart, Joseph Little, Paul Leech, and Pat Daly, are examples of professionals operating in this arena which cannot be defined by the disciplines of Architecture, Technology or Building Services Engineering. It is a scientific discipline which amalgamates those diverse fields and integrates the micro and macro elements and components of our built environment.

The UK part L and SAP focuses on Carbon rather than primary energy demand. They have building control and accredited details, They also have the BRE which is streets ahead of our SEI. The UK could be a very usefull learning oppertunity. I would recommend going back to college, if you can, the economy's is going through a techtonic shift not a temporary correction, it will not bounce back in 2010, prepare for that future.

RKQ

Very true. CPD is very useful but I also assume that people learn everyday.

I didn't stop learning over the last decade / decades!
I'm very up to date on passive house design from direct experience. I'm not the only one. We have all continued to develop and learn.

We are very up to date on all the changes to regulations, planning law and sustainability etc. I have no choice we must all continue to develop.

I don't have qualifications in each new topic but I do have first hand experience, as do many. I might call myself an Ecotect, Cadtect, Designtech, Certect as no-one can stop me.... neither term is "Registered". (Some might feel its abit pompous to invent your own "term" to describe your job to the world!)

Colleges should offer courses, as many would benefit and enjoy them, myself included.

Maybe the term Technician should encompass all these skills, BER Asessor, Building Control, Planning Law, Mechanical Ventilation, Passive Building, Sustainable design etc (Building Services was a subject)