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Foetal Alcohol Syndrome

sock.rocker* · 2008-09-22 16:53:03

didn't even know it existed.. Foetal alcohol syndrome occurs in about one-third of babies born to women who drink at least 18 units of alcohol per day during pregnancy. (18 units is the equivalent of around nine pints of beer). While this sounds like a huge amount of alcohol, this would not be unusual for an alcoholic who…

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didn't even know it existed..

Foetal alcohol syndrome occurs in about one-third of babies born to women who drink at least 18 units of alcohol per day during pregnancy. (18 units is the equivalent of around nine pints of beer). While this sounds like a huge amount of alcohol, this would not be unusual for an alcoholic who continues to drink during their pregnancy. They are especially at risk of injuring their unborn baby.

if ya search for it on google, link, irishhealth.com comes up first.. before wikipedia. google tryin to tell the irish something?

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#2 22-09-2008 4:56pm

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sock.rocker* wrote: »

didn't even know it existed..

Foetal alcohol syndrome occurs in about one-third of babies born to women who drink at least 18 units of alcohol per day during pregnancy. (18 units is the equivalent of around nine pints of beer). While this sounds like a huge amount of alcohol, this would not be unusual for an alcoholic who continues to drink during their pregnancy. They are especially at risk of injuring their unborn baby.

if ya search for it on google, link, irishhealth.com comes up first.. before wikipedia. google tryin to tell the irish something?

Don't get pregnant, i imagine.

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#3 22-09-2008 4:56pm

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Hmm it seems ears sticking out it a surefire way of detecting it...

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#4 22-09-2008 4:57pm

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sock.rocker* wrote: »

if ya search for it on google, link, irishhealth.com comes up first.. before wikipedia. google tryin to tell the irish something?

Not really - you searched from google.ie, so presumably Irish sites are given a better ranking. Search for it from google.com and it doesn't make the first page.

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#5 22-09-2008 5:01pm

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eoin_s wrote: »

Not really - you searched from google.ie, so presumably Irish sites are given a better ranking. Search for it from google.com and it doesn't make the first page.

touché.

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#6 22-09-2008 5:02pm

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You haven't? Well, lots of people haven't, including Jordan, who has a son suffering from it.

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#7 22-09-2008 5:02pm

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Irritable baby who has a poor suck and sleeps badly

That sounds like just a crap baby.

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#8 22-09-2008 5:02pm

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sock.rocker* wrote: »

touché.

But to get back on topic - "at least 9 pints a day"? That's a crazy amount, pregnant or not.

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#9 22-09-2008 5:09pm

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I'd say you could get milder forms of it if your mother drank less then that.

I'd be inclined to say that alcohol in general impairs the development of the child (especially the brain area). Obviously the more the worse, but i'd say every glass is having a very very small effect.

You can get foetal alcohol effect which means you don't have the full blown syndrome but you still have some of the symptoms.

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#10 22-09-2008 5:12pm

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AnonoBoy wrote: »

That sounds like just a crap baby.

Sucks at sucking? Epic fail baby.

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#11 22-09-2008 5:13pm

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Neesa wrote: »

You haven't? Well, lots of people haven't, including Jordan, who has a son suffering from it.

I thought her son's condition wasn't linked to her drug and alcohol abuse during pregnancy...

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#12 22-09-2008 5:18pm

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Dudess wrote: »

I thought her son's condition wasn't linked to her drug and alcohol abuse during pregnancy...

According to her PR firm it wasnt.

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#13 22-09-2008 5:20pm

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when i said i havnt heard of it, i meant i didnt realise there was a name for it.. everyone knows it cant be good for babies..

if i knew a girl who's child got it, breakface.

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#14 22-09-2008 5:21pm

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syklops wrote: »

According to her PR firm it wasnt.

and maybe/probably doctors

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#15 22-09-2008 5:28pm

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There is a characteristic "look" to children with F.A.S and Jordans son doesn't have it.
Also as far as I know it can take a relatively small amount of alcohol at the critical developmental stage of the foetus that can cause it.

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#16 22-09-2008 6:12pm

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Studies have shown even one small glass wine causes a transient hyperactive/anxious response in foetus. I think it's safest to avoid alcohol alltogether. F.A.S is a spectrum disorder so you can have minimal up to severe symptoms. Who knows , a glass of wine a few times a week could increase risk of baby/foetus suffering physical or mental health probs later in life, or may reduce IQ or increase chances of ADHD. If in doubt, leave it out. Would you give a new born baby a shot of vodka?

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#17 22-09-2008 6:26pm

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An acquaintance of mine would regularly get tipsy and smoked daily throughout her pregnancy, and would storm out in a huff if anyone attempted to broach the subject... Nice lady. One of the main reasons she was never more than an acquaintance tbh.

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#18 22-09-2008 7:58pm

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eoin_s wrote: »

But to get back on topic - "at least 9 pints a day"? That's a crazy amount

Well she is drinking for two.

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#19 22-09-2008 10:20pm

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sock.rocker* wrote: »

and maybe/probably doctors

A friend who's a paediatric doctor said that the condition is virtually unknown outside of mothers who took cocaine while pregnant.

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#20 22-09-2008 10:28pm

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I knew a girl who studied the effects of alcohol consumption during pregnancy for her thesis in college and she said that if alcohol is consumed during the 18th week (I think it was 18th week) of pregnancy, it could significantly affect the baby's facial features. It can cause eyes to be seperated further apart than is normal and also the distance between the upper lip and nose can be abnormally large aswell.

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#21 22-09-2008 11:08pm

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syklops wrote: »

According to her PR firm it wasnt.

The same PR company that faked the moon landings, right?

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#22 22-09-2008 11:19pm

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Stupid wagons whose babies are born with this should be monitored and have to prove themselves worthy before they get to keep the child.

I sincerely hope there is some kind of monitoring system in place when babies are born with FAS.

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#23 22-09-2008 11:23pm

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Peared wrote: »

Stupid wagons whose babies are born with this should be monitored and have to prove themselves worthy before they get to keep the child.

I sincerely hope there is some kind of monitoring system in place when babies are born with FAS.

There will be soon...

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2055383599

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#24 23-09-2008 12:15am

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jiltloop wrote: »

I knew a girl who studied the effects of alcohol consumption during pregnancy for her thesis in college and she said that if alcohol is consumed during the 18th week (I think it was 18th week) of pregnancy, it could significantly affect the baby's facial features. It can cause eyes to be seperated further apart than is normal and also the distance between the upper lip and nose can be abnormally large aswell.

Pics or GTFO

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#25 23-09-2008 12:18am

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jiltloop wrote: »

I knew a girl who studied the effects of alcohol consumption during pregnancy for her thesis in college and she said that if alcohol is consumed during the 18th week (I think it was 18th week) of pregnancy, it could significantly affect the baby's facial features. It can cause eyes to be seperated further apart than is normal and also the distance between the upper lip and nose can be abnormally large aswell.

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#26 23-09-2008 12:39am

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I play a gig in a local bar most Thursdays and there is a woman in there who is there every Sunday and she drinks and smokes like a trooper. Now I drink and smoke plenty myself but it just seems so selfish to impose this on an unborn baby who has no say in the matter.

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#27 23-09-2008 7:49am

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Crea wrote: »

A friend who's a paediatric doctor said that the condition is virtually unknown outside of mothers who took cocaine while pregnant.

Your mate needs to go back to the books!!!

No-one really knows how much u need to booze to give your kid FAS.

If anyone is interested, the royal college of obstetricians and gynaecologists in the UK have published some guidlines regarding alcohol and pregnancy that people might find useful....

http://www.rcog.org.uk/index.asp?PageID=1816

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#28 23-09-2008 8:01am

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I used to work with a couple of kids that had it. They were incredibly annoying and ugly. It put me off the idea of drinking when preganat altogether. I think pregnant drinkers should have too look after one for a week to see how it will affect their kids.

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#29 23-09-2008 10:09am

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Neesa wrote: »

You haven't? Well, lots of people haven't, including Jordan, who has a son suffering from it.

Must. Not. Make. Harvey. Wallbanger. Jokes.

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#30 23-09-2008 11:18am

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eoin_s wrote: »

Must. Not. Make. Harvey. Wallbanger. Jokes.

LOL

But seriously, 9 pints a day, wtf:eek:

I presume it would occur even if drinking a lot less than that too (potentially)

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#31 23-09-2008 12:05pm

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An occasional drink won't do any harm. Hell there's even research to suggest it's good for the baby! Nine pints a day though......

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#32 23-09-2008 1:07pm

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Padraig Mor wrote: »

Hell there's even research to suggest it's good for the baby!

Aye, Guinness for strength

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#33 23-09-2008 1:56pm

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sock.rocker* wrote: »

if ya search for it on google, link, irishhealth.com comes up first.. before wikipedia. google tryin to tell the irish something?

Try it with google.com rather than google.ie. Then google.co.uk? Notice how the results keep changing?
It tries to show local results first.

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#34 23-09-2008 2:20pm

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Pretty scary stuff alright...

http://images.google.com/images?ndsp=20&um=1&hl=en&rls=com.microsoft:*:%7Breferrer:source%3F%7D&rlz=1I7GGIK&sa=X&oi=spell&resnum=0&ct=result&cd=1&q=fetal+alcohol+syndrome&spell=1

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#35 23-09-2008 2:45pm

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What Jordans son has is not even in the same neighbourhood as FAS.

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