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'U'! 'S'! 'A'!?

  • 20-09-2008 2:50am
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    Closed Accounts Posts: 24


    Anyone know when this started? I was watching the golf and every US person shouting USA! repeatedly. I have to admit I did not notice it before Sept 11th 2001. Now it seems to be used alot. Never heard it in golf till now. TBH it has given me a rise to say we better beat them! - It sounds arrogant and unnessacary. But when and why have they all of a sudden started this chant for events in sport in particular?


    Note - they also did it when Bush visited WTC scene. That was the first I heard it.

    Is it a 9/11 inspired reactionary thing or was it done before?
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  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 47,812 CMod ✭✭✭✭Black Swan


    Naaaaaa, this is an old chant by the crowds of Americans. I can remember televised sporting events years ago when I was very young and they did this.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 23,316 ✭✭✭✭amacachi


    It was done well back in the 80's at the very least.

    There were things happening in the world before you started paying attention.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 995 ✭✭✭Ass


    OK.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 36,634 ✭✭✭✭Ruu_Old


    Four! more! years! Four! more! years! is another one.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 24 noobie


    Ruu wrote: »
    Four! more! years! Four! more! years! is another one.



    Not until they win the next 'World Cup'.....oh wait I mean in Baseball:P;)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,562 ✭✭✭connundrum


    I think it started with that mighty ducks movie.


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 10,912 Mod ✭✭✭✭Ponster


    It's probably older than many of the posters on boards :)

    I remember it being chanted during the 1984 LA Olympics a few times.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,778 ✭✭✭tallaght01


    I remember it in that ancient ****ey WWF "wrestling". This guy called the irison sheikh and his mate, some russina chap who's name I can't rememeber used to fight Americans and the crows would always chant that. It was like the cold war being lived out in my living room as a 6 year old :P


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,404 ✭✭✭✭rossie1977


    yeah wrestler jim duggan used to get the crowd chanting U'S'A before and during his matches as early as 1988 or so, i was talking to duggan in march of this year, his family originally come from cork and he has been to ireland on numerous occasions


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,778 ✭✭✭tallaght01


    rossie1977 wrote: »
    yeah wrestler jim duggan used to get the crowd chanting U'S'A before and during his matches as early as 1988 or so, i was talking to duggan in march of this year, his family originally come from cork and he has been to ireland on numerous occasions

    man,how did we ever watch that crap. I have really chilled parents. They were never particularly tough on me. As long as I didn't do anything too mental, they never really hassled me. But my dad banned me from watching WWF wrestling when I was a kid. I always had to watch it in secret. I thought it was mental at the time. I couldn't understand it, as I was allowed watch all other kinds of violent stuff. He said WWF was so retarded that if I watched it I'd turn retarded.

    I think time has proved him right :P


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,727 ✭✭✭✭Sherifu


    I guess USA was too complicated. Break something up and make it easier so everyone can join in.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,097 ✭✭✭IRISH RAIL


    Wasnt it not rowdy rowdy pipers chant after he ran in


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,543 ✭✭✭JerryHandbag


    So good ol Hacksaw Jim Duggan is the man to blame...thought I saw him in the crowd at the ryder cup allrite :D

    Personally I think it was the cavemen who stared saying "ooooh!....eehhh!....aaaay!" and that evolved into what we hear today :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,477 ✭✭✭✭Raze_them_all


    i think it started roughly around the time of the miracle on ice. Could be wrong though.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,816 ✭✭✭Acacia


    I remember hearing it on 'The Simpsons' when I was a kid, so, no I don't think it came about because of 9/11.


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 21,250 Mod ✭✭✭✭Dub13


    The movie Rocky started it,remember the USSR crowed started chanting USA,USA,USA.That still brings the hairs on the back of my neck up.

    That moment is never mentioned in history books but a lot of people suggest that moment was the start of the end of the cold war.Maybe in years to come the history books will give that moment the credit it deserves.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,324 ✭✭✭RGDATA!


    noobie wrote: »
    Anyone know when this started? I was watching the golf and every US person shouting USA! repeatedly. I have to admit I did not notice it before Sept 11th 2001. Now it seems to be used alot. Never heard it in golf till now. TBH it has given me a rise to say we better beat them! - It sounds arrogant and unnessacary. But when and why have they all of a sudden started this chant for events in sport in particular?


    Note - they also did it when Bush visited WTC scene. That was the first I heard it.

    Is it a 9/11 inspired reactionary thing or was it done before?

    how is this chant any more "arrogant and unnecessacary" than any that Irish crowds use at international sporting events (say soccer/rugby/boxing) held here?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,799 ✭✭✭Tha Gopher


    The movie Rocky started it,remember the USSR crowed started chanting USA,USA,USA.That still brings the hairs on the back of my neck up.

    That moment is never mentioned in history books but a lot of people suggest that moment was the start of the end of the cold war.Maybe in years to come the history books will give that moment the credit it deserves.


    Stallone dedicating Rambo III to the brave fighting people of Afghanistan surely means he did more than Gorbachev and Reagan combined.

    It is in at least two early 90s Simpsons (Homer shouts it while honking the horn after getting to see Lisas teacher rather than Barts. And then th end of school term riot :) )

    I havent seen anything like it since the fall of Saigon......


  • Posts: 14,266 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    As has been said, Hacksaw Jim Duggan used to get the crowd doing it a lot during his WWF run. Even today he has the fans doing it.


    For as long as i can remember it was chanted at some time in WWE history. Usually when an American good guy was wrestling against a bad guy from a different country (Sgt. Slaughter, Yokozuna, etc.)


    Not too sure about other sports, but it was definitely around Pre-9/11.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 32,865 ✭✭✭✭MagicMarker


    They're actually shouting YOU!! ARE!! GAY!!, YOU!! ARE!! GAY!!


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,477 ✭✭✭✭Raze_them_all




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 31,859 ✭✭✭✭Sharpshooter


    As has been said, Hacksaw Jim Duggan used to get the crowd doing it a lot during his WWF run. Even today he has the fans doing it.


    For as long as i can remember it was chanted at some time in WWE history. Usually when an American good guy was wrestling against a bad guy from a different country (Sgt. Slaughter, Yokozuna, etc.)


    Not too sure about other sports, but it was definitely around Pre-9/11.
    Yeah, wasn't it The lron Shiek , SGT Slaughter and Hacksaw that got all that going?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,082 ✭✭✭lostexpectation


    seems they are trying to make the ryder cup like 20/20 cricket with football type razmataz and loutism


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,729 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    noobie wrote: »
    Anyone know when this started? I was watching the golf and every US person shouting USA! repeatedly. I have to admit I did not notice it before Sept 11th 2001. Now it seems to be used alot. Never heard it in golf till now. TBH it has given me a rise to say we better beat them! - It sounds arrogant and unnessacary. But when and why have they all of a sudden started this chant for events in sport in particular?

    Note - they also did it when Bush visited WTC scene. That was the first I heard it.

    Is it a 9/11 inspired reactionary thing or was it done before?
    Sounds like something that would have been inspired out of the Cold War.

    You should know better by now that American Sportsmanship is a disgrace. I mean everyone involved European and American alike crushes beercans off their face and screams liverpool staggering home from the pub at 3am but yeah I saw the Ryder Cup today and I didn't like how the crowd was treating the European side. No class at all.
    The "U.S.A." cheer has even been banned at a Wisconsin school because it has a second meaning. "One banned cheer in particular, where students chant 'U.S.A.,'" brought parents to a school board event. "Even after learning that the chant had a second meaning to many students — the acronym YOU Suck Ass — parents said that only applied to overly-sensitive ears."

    lol. Sad that.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,759 ✭✭✭✭dlofnep


    This is the man responsible.

    http://www.guresmania.net/pics/duggan/04.jpg


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,201 ✭✭✭✭_Kaiser_


    seems they are trying to make the ryder cup like 20/20 cricket with football type razmataz and loutism

    I blame Happy Gimore myself :)


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 10,912 Mod ✭✭✭✭Ponster



    Well I wasn't too far saying it was 1984 :)

    Suggesting it was a post 9/11 thing makes me wonder how old the OP is :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,370 ✭✭✭HalloweenJack


    RGDATA! wrote: »
    how is this chant any more "arrogant and unnecessacary" than any that Irish crowds use at international sporting events (say soccer/rugby/boxing) held here?
    I was just about to mention hearing "You'll never beat the Irish" at the Ryder Cup the other day, along with that chant, the goons singing it were dressed up as leprechauns.:( At least Americans don't dress up like Uncle Sam when they do it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 845 ✭✭✭nhughes100


    I wonder how confused the Americans were when the leprechaun brigade started chanting Ole Ole Ole etc, Spanish Leprechauns perhaps?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,005 ✭✭✭Creature


    Rocky VII - Rocky vs America's crippling debt.


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