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Helicopter crash in Bettystown

Wishbone Ash · 2008-09-18 16:21:58

A helicopter has crashed into the Neptune Hotel in Bettystown, Co Meath. Emergency services at scene.

18-09-2008 4:21pm

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A helicopter has crashed into the Neptune Hotel in Bettystown, Co Meath.

Emergency services at scene.

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#2 18-09-2008 4:24pm

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RTE http://www.rte.ie/news/2008/0918/bettystown.html

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#3 18-09-2008 4:27pm

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It has just appeared on Aertel. 1 person believed to be on board.

/*snap

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#4 18-09-2008 4:35pm

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The Neptune is now a temporary school :eek:..... Hope no one is hurt:(

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#5 18-09-2008 5:23pm

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saw pics on rte there:eek::eek::eek::eek:

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#6 18-09-2008 5:37pm

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mad pics on tv no deaths atleast

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/northern_ireland/7623959.stm

they being very slow to say who's helicopter it is.

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#7 18-09-2008 8:38pm

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N399BH Sikorsky S-76B

Pic here on Airliners.net http://www.airliners.net/photo/Barrack-Homes/Sikorsky-S-76B/1319566&tbl=photo_info&photo_nr=1&sok=WHERE__%28reg_%3D_%27N399BH%27%29_&sort=_order_by_photo_id_DESC_&prev_id=&next_id=NEXTID

A google search says she is/was owned by Barrack Aviation.

See here:http://www.aviongoo.com/aviongoo/faa_info.php?nnum=N399BH&ac_id=57822

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#8 18-09-2008 9:11pm

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any initial indication as to what caused the crash?

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#9 18-09-2008 9:39pm

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There has been some comment recently about US-registered aircraft based here and in the UK skimping on regulation.

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#10 18-09-2008 9:57pm

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tracker-man wrote: »

any initial indication as to what caused the crash?

Rumour has it he hit one of the lamp posts with his rudder and then went down... He was flying very low..

3 people in hospital, including the pilot. Thank god no one was killed..

Fair play to the emergency services who were on the scene in minutes..

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#11 18-09-2008 10:24pm

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Victor wrote: »

There has been some comment recently about US-registered aircraft based here and in the UK skimping on regulation.

Now now, lets not start jumping to conclusions :cool:

Quality wrote: »

Rumour has it he hit one of the lamp posts with his rudder and then went down... He was flying very low..

3 people in hospital, including the pilot. Thank god no one was killed..

Fair play to the emergency services who were on the scene in minutes..

What, he caught the tail rotor ?

I am not allowed discuss …

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#12 18-09-2008 11:05pm

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My wife was out for a walk shortly before the crash about 5 miles from bettystown. When it flew over she looked up as it was making quiet a load noise. We're used to helicopters flying over, as we must be in a flight path or similar, but this was quiet a different sound than normal.

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#13 19-09-2008 7:48am

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Its a miracle nobody was killed, it was a fireball within seconds

It was being operated by property developers I believe

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#14 19-09-2008 8:26am

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The IAA has new "Surveillance Procedures" for N reg'd aircraft operating in Ireland. See attached.

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#15 19-09-2008 3:41pm

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jmayo wrote: »

What, he caught the tail rotor ?

Yes the tail rotor... is what I am led to believe...

They removed the wreckage this afternoon...

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#16 19-09-2008 4:21pm

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=apQ0E0pnSdA

Here ya go...

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#17 19-09-2008 4:25pm

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:eek::eek::eek::eek:
Can't believe no one was seriously hurt after that!

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#18 19-09-2008 5:45pm

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there was talk in the paper of the pilot attempting an emergency landing in the car park which is very close to the beach where it took off from earlier.

To me the video seem to portray a reasonably controlled landing that goes wrong?

Couple of aerial views of that car park in the papers and the car park is pretty small.

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#19 19-09-2008 5:49pm

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BrianD wrote: »

To me the video seem to portray a reasonably controlled landing that goes wrong?

Obviously I'm guessing but the rotors could have easily snagged on something nearby (building, cables?) which sent the chopper off.

Looking at that though, it's a miracle no one was killed...

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#20 19-09-2008 6:18pm

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That is ****ing mental.

You know what they say, "if its wings are travelling faster than its body, its probably not safe"-cod4

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#21 21-09-2008 10:31am

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is it just me or is the video clip not working?

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#22 21-09-2008 10:35am

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rogue.goofball wrote: »

is it just me or is the video clip not working?

Working fine for me.

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#23 21-09-2008 10:35am

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It is for me

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#24 21-09-2008 10:37am

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God Almighty

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#25 22-09-2008 8:33pm

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Victor wrote: »

There has been some comment recently about US-registered aircraft based here and in the UK skimping on regulation.

Tell me more !

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#26 23-09-2008 5:33pm

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It appears the helicopter dropped people off on the beach and the accident happened shortly afterwards.
I have no idea what the beach is like but what are the chances of picking up FOD (Foreign Object Damage) from sand or loose stones on the beach and doing some serious damage to engines, blocking filters or damaging fuel flow?

Just a thought!

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#27 26-09-2008 9:21pm

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FOGOFUNK wrote: »

That is ****ing mental.

You know what they say, "if its wings are travelling faster than its body, its probably not safe"-cod4

Good thing a helicopter doesnt have wings then, isnt it?

The S76 is a twin engine helicopter and is certified to operate in performance class 1 which basically means in the event of an engine failure it has sufficent power to continue its climb... he was clearly trying to land in the carpark which had clearance of 1/2 meter either side of the helicopter....tailrotor clipped a lampost and hence the uncontrolled yawing on the helicopter.

He was lucky to escape. The accident report should be very interesting to read. One would wonder if there are going to be any ramifications so as this sort of accident is prevented from happening again!!

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#28 27-09-2008 12:39am

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sharkman wrote: »

Tell me more !

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=57307408&postcount=14

Aircraft owners / operators are primarily required to follow the rules of the country of registration.

It would appear that some US-registered aircraft are spending the vast majority of their time here or in the UK.

I understand some regulatory requirements are stricter here than in the US.

Hence, some aircraft that spend most of their time here are not following all Irish regulatory requirements.

Note most helicopters can't fly across the Atlantic.

I do not know if this applies in this case.

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#29 28-09-2008 4:29pm

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reading pprune, oh he's one of the most experienced pilots in ireland, oh he's hero lets not jump to conclusion, he didn't have the right licence twat.

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#30 30-09-2008 2:13pm

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Landing in this car park doesn't sound like the best of ideas.

http://www.independent.ie/multimedia/archive/00204/chopper3_204366t.jpg

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#31 16-10-2008 12:30am

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http://www.rte.ie/news/2008/1014/bettystown.html

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#32 16-10-2008 5:19am

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If anyone is interested in the actual report: http://www.aaiu.ie/upload/general/11003-0.pdf

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#33 17-10-2008 1:05am

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Must watch out for lamposts....:D

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#34 17-10-2008 1:53am

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was hte lampost flying the helicopter?

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#35 17-10-2008 5:12am

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no, but the lampost prob would have done a better job tbh!!
For the first time an Irish helicopter pilot was found guilty of dangerous flying recently.... i think i might know who number 2 is going to be.:pac:

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#36 17-10-2008 5:03pm

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who was found guilty? details please....

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#37 19-10-2008 6:46am

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This Genius: http://www.independent.ie/national-news/car-park-landing-puts-pilot-on-shaky-ground-1371901.html

Here is another link of the story before he got the slap on the wrists he deserved http://www.independent.ie/national-news/car-park-landing-puts-pilot-on-shaky-ground-1371901.html

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#38 19-10-2008 7:21am

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I love the whole "lost my logbook" in the crash thing!

Having said that...what does actually happen if a pilot loses his logbook? Mine has spaces down the bottom for the CFI or an instructor to sign, who's to say its real? is the whole log book thing just down to trust and people beleive what you're showing them is fact? What does a commercial logbook look like from that point of view?

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#39 19-10-2008 4:29pm

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electric69 wrote: »

This Genius: http://www.independent.ie/national-news/car-park-landing-puts-pilot-on-shaky-ground-1371901.html

Here is another link of the story before he got the slap on the wrists he deserved http://www.independent.ie/national-news/car-park-landing-puts-pilot-on-shaky-ground-1371901.html

You have included the same link twice. I thought there was no decision on this case yet.

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#40 19-10-2008 11:46pm

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Victor wrote: »

You have included the same link twice. I thought there was no decision on this case yet.

Apologies about that. http://www.rte.ie/news/2008/1007/obriens.html

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#41 20-10-2008 12:24am

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What was the outcome of the investigation did he lose his licence or have it endorsed in some way?

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#42 20-10-2008 9:59am

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pclancy wrote: »

I love the whole "lost my logbook" in the crash thing!

Having said that...what does actually happen if a pilot loses his logbook? Mine has spaces down the bottom for the CFI or an instructor to sign, who's to say its real? is the whole log book thing just down to trust and people beleive what you're showing them is fact? What does a commercial logbook look like from that point of view?

The aircraft logbook should match your pilots logbook so you should be able to transfer your hours over from that, Obviously easier said than done if you've 1000's of hours in various types. With the airlines its all stored in a database easier to get hold of.

If you own your own aircraft and are flying from a private strip then its 'trust' but if your operating from a controlled aerodrome the aircrafts movements will be recorded in the tower log so there is a paper trail.

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