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Problem With Jeff Hardy?
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17-09-2008 11:25pm#1
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pwinsider.com reports:According to an eyewitness, there was an incident shortly before 11 AM Wednesday morning at the Nashville International Airport involving WWE star Jeff Hardy, who was removed from his flight heading to North Carolina. Hardy, who was traveling with Gregory Helms and his brother Matt, was taken off his flight flanked by several police officers.
"Hardy wasn't in handcuffs, but he was clearly being 'escorted', said an eyewitness who asked not to be identified. "They weren't touching him though, but they had him flanked. He was wearing the same clothes he left the building in Tuesday night. Once they got him off the plane they allowed him to use his phone, before leading him away."
There were conflicting stories floating around among WWE performers following Wednesday's incident. At this point we are still looking to confirm exactly what the reason was that Hardy was removed from the plane and we don't want to speculate any further beyond that.
We can confirm Hardy was removed from his scheduled flight after boarding the plane and that the story had made its way around Titan Tower, where there was concern about his standing with the company. The story was a big topic of conversation among WWE's workers yesterday as well.
Calls made on Wednesday to the Nashville International Airport's Investigations department by PWInsider.com were not returned.
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Slightly of topic but is Hurricane Helms almost back?
Have read that he was backstage this past week but he hasn't returned wrestling yet. He's been out for 17 months :eek:
So many reports about Jeff now, it was him/ it was his girlfriend etc.. I hope it's nothing that would make it his third strike. Always something seems to happen with him when he is getting any sort of push. 0 -
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Deleted User wrote: »I don't understand the whole Meltzer thing at all. Its like he has fans or something. I mean.. what?
Kane has fans, so why not Meltzer? I mean he has contributed more to wrestling than Kane has!
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OK, I'm going to reply to the above, but then i'm not replying to anything "off-topic" again.Meltzer has documented and commented on wrestling for about 20 years I think.
Documented how? Like.. Keep records and stuff?
As for Commenting.. I've commented on wrestling for years too. Lots of people i know have. We just don't broadcast it on the net.Minto wrote:Kane on the other hand has had a 24 hour title reign
As i've sead in here before, I don't acre about title reigns. If a wrestler can present himself to the general audience as a main event or mid-card wrestler (wherever he will be used) then a shin belt doesn't mean much.Minto wrote:I can't recall him ever having a good match
Even if thats true (i doubt it), it has nothing to do with anything. Its purely opinion. I could say i don't think Randy Orton has ever had a good match.. but.. other people like him so it makes no sense.Minto wrote:(the idea of a 3 DVD set dedicated to him sickens me)
Thats crazy. Cos the idea of Ric Flair getting a 'retirement' T-Shirt sickened me. Didn't make me sit around posting about it though. If you don't want a Kane DVD, don't buy one. Its really not that difficult.Minto wrote:he refuses to be put over (this pisses me of the most)!
That bastard! How dare he :pac: I'm actually confused by you saying that. If you don't like him, surely you'd rather he didn't get put over? Besides, with Triple H, Undertaker, etc. killing people on the roster, you need someone like Kane to balance things out. If he decides that he can and will help build people up, then thats a very, very good thing in my opinion.rovert wrote:Closer to 30. I dont want this to drag the thread off topic. But Meltzer is better at his job than Kane is. End of story.
And My uncle's friend's son is better at his job than Meltzer is.Fozzy wrote:If you read his writing or listened to his shows over the years then you wouldn't need to be sarcastic. He's an incredibly intelligent and nice guy who works as hard as anyone I can think of and I respect him for that
I don't have a problem with Meltzer himself. I don't think he looks/acts stupid, i don't think hes poorly educated, etc. I just hate the way he could turn around and say "Triple H is retiring in early 2009 and Chris Jericho is having a backstage affair with A-Train" and people will spread his word as though its 100% solid fact. Obviously thats not everyone, but Meltzer seems to be expressing his opinions or thoughts as though they were fact.
Rovert, for example, will heavily rely on Meltzer's word. If i start an argument with Rovert right now about Kane, it will only take a replies before he quotes something Meltzer related. (Rovert, that isn't an attack on you, I'm not trying to start an argument with you, but you're just the best relevant example on boards, so don't take that the wrong way).
Right. thats me done with that.. anyway..Fozzy wrote:I don't really care about Jeff's personal life either, apart from when it affects his job. There's indications that this may affect his job, so I'm interested in how it plays out
Pretty much exactly how i feel.
This is pretty off topic, but seen as we're talking about wrestlers personal lives that don't really affect us at all... How is Big Daddy V getting on these days?
I believe he was asked to try and lose some weight (he suffers from Chronic Obesity i think) but they released him shortly after. Has he managed to help himself out at all since? Its a shame they released him like that. Waste of a draft pick, too
Aren't WWE still being 'investigated' or something because of drug use in their company?
Have TNA got a wellness policy or anything like that?
If Jeff gets sacked i really don't see them taking him back. This would be the second time he let them down, and I'm pretty sure they can live without him. Jeff Hardy is, in my opinion, an easily replaceable member of the roster.0 -
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Deleted User wrote: »Documented how? Like.. Keep records and stuff?.
Yes he does in fact he does. But doesn’t seem to rely on them outside of writing bios and obituaries (his strong suit) as he honestly in my opinion has the best memory Ive ever encountered. He can remember nearly every aspect of most wrestlers careers. He has an amazing head for figures. As he can pull attendances, buyrates, live gates of a great number of shows. He can be rain man like.Deleted User wrote: »As for Commenting.. I've commented on wrestling for years too. Lots of people i know have. We just don't broadcast it on the net.
This statement is so laughable. Have you been speaking office workers, bookers, owners and top Pro Wrestlers for decades? With the same type of people reading your publication and scrutinizing your every word? Not to mention all the subscribers outside of the Wrestling. Have you been called one of the most accomplished journalists in American? I could go on…Deleted User wrote: »And My uncle's friend's son is better at his job than Meltzer is. .
Care to make that case?Deleted User wrote: »I don't have a problem with Meltzer himself. I don't think he looks/acts stupid, i don't think hes poorly educated, etc. I just hate the way he could turn around and say "Triple H is retiring in early 2009 and Chris Jericho is having a backstage affair with A-Train" and people will spread his word as though its 100% solid fact.
Again the Observer is read widely by those in the industry if Dave writes an untrue story he will be pulled up on it. Again as I’ve already said Dave has tunnel vision when it comes to the facts (especially in the area of Wrestling history.) Dave publishes corrections when he gets things wrong without excuses either. Dave has said he tries to verify stories via three separate sources.Deleted User wrote: »Obviously thats not everyone, but Meltzer seems to be expressing his opinions or thoughts as though they were fact.
If you read the Observer there is clear separations between facts and opinions. There are rare expectations when he is part of a story or has strong feelings about a topic/issue for example.Deleted User wrote: »Rovert, for example, will heavily rely on Meltzer's word.
I like many consider what Meltzer writes as fact due his reputation for reporting such. There are biases and errors in everything but what Meltzer reports is the closest thing to fact in Wrestling, a business based on deception.Deleted User wrote: »If i start an argument with Rovert right now about Kane, it will only take a replies before he quotes something Meltzer related. (Rovert, that isn't an attack on you, I'm not trying to start an argument with you, but you're just the best relevant example on boards, so don't take that the wrong way).
I don’t think I’ve done that here when expressing my opinion about a wrestler.Deleted User wrote: »This is pretty off topic, but seen as we're talking about wrestlers personal lives that don't really affect us at all... How is Big Daddy V getting on these days?
I believe he was asked to try and lose some weight (he suffers from Chronic Obesity i think) but they released him shortly after. Has he managed to help himself out at all since? Its a shame they released him like that. Waste of a draft pick, too .
He hasnt loss any weight and he is doing film workDeleted User wrote: »Aren't WWE still being 'investigated' or something because of drug use in their company? .
No the US government has bigger fish to fry (fixing the economy.)Deleted User wrote: »Have TNA got a wellness policy or anything like that?
No, but they tested wrestlers and loads failed but none were punished. Jeff Jarrett was found with a crack or pot pipe at an airport two or three years ago. No charges were issued.0 -
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http://www.wrestlezone.com/article.php?articleid=223604343
"Today talent had medical tests & had blood work for HIV & Hep, but also signed forms giving permission for TNA to do drug testing too."
Dunno how reliable wrestlezone is but, if true, TNA do care.
No they don’t if took them three years to do anything. They were pretty calous in their treatment of Killings and Konnan. Also going by rumour's Dixie's "party house" in Florida sounds like a fun place.
The term "drug testing" is very vague. What are they testing for, will people be supervised when providing, will people be punished and will results be made public etc?
I wouldn’t consider Wrestlzone to be reliable in the slightest in general.0 -
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Deleted User wrote: »And My uncle's friend's son is better at his job than Meltzer is.
Either back that statement up (by proving how wrong Meltzer's reporting has been in the last 25 years), or else stop posting please, because with all due respect, you have no idea what an idiot you have made yourself look like with that one mere statement.I just hate the way he could turn around and say "Triple H is retiring in early 2009 and Chris Jericho is having a backstage affair with A-Train" and people will spread his word as though its 100% solid fact. Obviously thats not everyone, but Meltzer seems to be expressing his opinions or thoughts as though they were fact.
No he doesn't, he brings the facts and THEN expresses his opinions, as opposed to sites like wrestlezone who give their opinions (most of the time not reading Meltzer's reporting properly or misquoting him) and THEN expressing that as fact. There is somewhat of a fundamental difference there. What he reports, and what a lot of sites report, claiming to quote him are often two different things there, dude.Rovert, for example, will heavily rely on Meltzer's word. If i start an argument with Rovert right now about Kane, it will only take a replies before he quotes something Meltzer related. (Rovert, that isn't an attack on you, I'm not trying to start an argument with you, but you're just the best relevant example on boards, so don't take that the wrong way).
Kane has done f*ck all to note with the promotion in all the time he's been with the company. I know you have somewhat of a mental love affair with Kane... not that there's anything wrong with that... But if Meltzer reports anything about Kane (or anyone else for that matter), be it injury, responsible for lousy ratings, backstage issues. You can take it to the bank. Rovert isn't the only one on the internet that quotes Meltzer, most people who know what they're talking about quote The Observer...
...probably the reason they know what they're talking about in the first place!
Compare it to the news, KKV, are you gonna say Anne Doyle doesn't know what she's talking about because you don't like what she's saying, despite the fact that she has a team of reporters and researchers bringing it to her?
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Bit harsh isn't it? It's not like he's Jake Roberts, Marty Jannetty, Eddie Guerrero or Ron Simmons is it?
All of which had (or still have) issues with Alcohol, which did a lot more harm than being drunk once at an airport.
Wouldn't want you in power of anything, that's for sure!
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