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photographer needed

  • 15-09-2008 2:59pm
    #1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6


    Hi all,

    I've been advised to look for an amatuer photographer here for my wedding as my budget is very strict . and all i am looking for are ood photos and a cd with every pic on it at the end. So is there anyone out there who can do me a great deal and show me some previous work they have done? also we are on the look out for a videographer as well??

    Thanks
    tracey


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,263 ✭✭✭✭Borderfox


    Whats the budget and whats your location and when is the wedding on, lots of questions. :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,542 ✭✭✭Tactical


    What area of the country?

    Posting this info will help you get a better response.

    Strange though that you expect an amateur to be able to show you previous work and provide a great deal. Don't get me wrong I'm not having a go at you, its just that your request seems contradictory.

    Have you a budget in mind?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,250 ✭✭✭pixbyjohn


    3 grand and it can be done as you wish, stills only.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,497 ✭✭✭✭Dragan


    traceyf wrote: »
    Hi all,

    I've been advised to look for an amatuer photographer here for my wedding as my budget is very strict . and all i am looking for are ood photos and a cd with every pic on it at the end. So is there anyone out there who can do me a great deal and show me some previous work they have done? also we are on the look out for a videographer as well??

    Thanks
    tracey

    It would help massively if you give information about what your budget actually is, where and when the wedding is and what kind of hours.

    Do you want the photographer just for the ceremony and after or do you you want them there till the first dance for example.

    It will help people a lot.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,547 ✭✭✭City-Exile


    Looking for all images on a CD should mean that you pay extra.
    It's not uncommon to pay €500 for this alone.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,273 ✭✭✭Morlar


    pixbyjohn wrote: »
    3 grand and it can be done as you wish, stills only.

    For 3 grand you should get more than an amateur/wannabe. For that much dont accept less than a high level talented professional (whether they do it fulltime or partime) photographer who will provide the works and have proven experience + an impressive portfolio. For that much they will also provide an assistant on the day to make sure everything is covered. They will have backup camera gear too in case of emergency.

    Make sure whoever you get treats it seriously - scouts all the locations in advance and has high level equipment and also of course a good eye for composition and so on. They should also rely heavily on and take a keen interest in what it is exactly that you as a couple are after.

    If you dont get all that and more then your then being shortchanged. Seriously for 3k you will get a talented energetic and dedicated photographer if you shop around. If you go through the wedding mags you run the risk of getting a meat market type person who will go through the motions.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,934 ✭✭✭egan007


    Can recommend Keith Jack if you are in louth Dublin Meath area.
    http://www.keithjackphotography.com
    Weddings from €500


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 348 ✭✭SonOfPerdition


    City-Exile wrote: »
    Looking for all images on a CD should mean that you pay extra.
    It's not uncommon to pay €500 for this alone.

    you're taking the piss, right?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,219 ✭✭✭Calina


    No he is not. Handing over the images on CD is akin to handing over negatives in film days and that is not something I would have ever done then, or now.

    OP, I am not sure what you want, but if you want a more fruitful response I would highlight ballpark what part of the country you are looking for all this to happen. Secondly, while this is not part of my remit here if budget is really all that tight I would sit down and decide what aspects of your wedding are important to you and what aspects, perhaps, you can do without as I see you're looking for a videographer as well.

    I'd choose one or the other if it were me.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,146 ✭✭✭Morrisseeee


    Do you think the OP is ballhopping ? Doesn't seem interested in responding !

    If you (OP) are on a tight budget, I'm sure someone here (on boards.ie) could do photos for you and then put them on a DVD with Menus & backing-tracks (music of your choice), etc. for a reasonable price !!


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,281 ✭✭✭Ricky91t


    Do you think the OP is ballhopping ? Doesn't seem interested in responding !

    Not everyone is online all day!
    But most of boards are...:pac:

    I think she maybe expects us to be some kind of super breed of people that can read minds


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6 traceyf


    Hi all, sorry bout the lack of details its my first time on this thing!! Well at the mo i can get the pics for church, after ceremoney, castle grouns and then recpeption speeches and then cutting of the cake and then 1st dance for approx 800 with the CD and dont have much info on the video yet. So i am looking to do the Video and Photos for approx. 1000 at the most!

    I know a few students/photo enthuasists who do this as a hobbie and a bit of cash so if anyone has previous experience doing it i would be very interested.

    my wedding is on a Thurs in august 2010 in Drogheda and the reception is in Cabra castle. I know its early but i've been advised to book as early as i can.

    Thanks a million
    Tracey


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 617 ✭✭✭sasar


    Aug 2010 :eek:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6 traceyf


    well i have been refused 5 photographers already because they are booked out already so that speaks for itself!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,542 ✭✭✭Tactical


    Tracy,

    it sounds like you are getting a really good deal for E800 and given what you're looking for I doubt you'll get it for much less.

    The main thing that concerns me is that you seem to want a professional job done as you have asked for examples of work done. An amateur will simply not have the portfolio to show you.

    I highly doubt that most professionals will give you a CD of high resolution images for E500 as like Calina has already said, handing over a CD is like giving away the negatives. Very few professionals will do this. The editing required for such a CD would be at least a days work. Remember that a well as the day on site that some post processing work will be involved (and don't cringe all those who say get it right in camera, 'cause developing is still an art...) after the event. So you're looking at not less than 2 days work.

    The way to look at is like computer software. When you purchase a piece of software, what you in fact are purchasing is a license to install and use a copy of that software on your machine. You are not actually purchasing the software itself. Same with professional photography.

    I charge for every commercial shot I give a client and for the use of the shot. If a client wants more than one copy of the shot I charge for each print. I don't go overboard but I do have to make a living, pay for my equipment, pay taxes, etc... so its not unreasonable to chrg properly for things.

    Costs here in Ireland are high. Have you looked at the price of an album in Ireland? ave you looked at the cost of printing in Ireland?

    For E500 in regard to the list you've been good enough to post, I'd have no problem in attending the event and taking the necessary shots. I'd then put them in low res on a CD or DVD with my standard copyright watermark across the image. i.e. a proof DC or DVD. Prints would have to charged for seperately.

    I offer these comments by way of some realistic and friendly advice. i.e. you'll get what you pay for. I seriously doubt that any photograher can quote a firm price for two years into the future. This is mainly because of increasing costs of doing business in Ireland. If someone is able to quote a firm price they would seem to have a generous margin built into their costing model. I'd much prefer to hear someone say that couldn't give a firm quote as they re being more honest. Imagine if costs actually came down and you had been locked into a higher price.:eek:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,497 ✭✭✭✭Dragan


    *must give some practical thought to breaking into wedding photography*


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,542 ✭✭✭Tactical


    eh? For E500 for about 2 days work:confused: You're kidding right?

    Even the guys and gals doing it semi-pro wouldn't usually charge less than E800 (inc album + 24 shots)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6 traceyf


    I take your advice on board but I have had 4 experienced photographers get back to me saying they could do me a deal for 650-750e with CD (No album JUST CD) for the whole day and they’re work looks great and then a lot of amateur photographers who have done a few weddings in the past and their work looks really well also!!. I think that it is possible to get prices I am looking for (as i know people in the past who have) and not all people charge mad amounts like I was led to believe.

    It is good to know that there are honest and good people who won’t take advantage regarding money with potential customers. People are getting too greedy these days and its not just how our economy is going its been going on a very long time! J


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,542 ✭✭✭Tactical


    That's great news on the pricing and the CD.

    Just make sure the images are high res and have an adequate dpi for the size printing you are interested in (if you're getting any prints done later).

    Also be aware that most photographers (well pro anyway) will take a booking fee rather than a deposit. The booking fee is non-refundable where as the deposit can sometimes be refundable. Its all in the wording...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,547 ✭✭✭City-Exile


    C'mere traceyf, you're the one who is sounding greedy!
    You expect someone to spend a Saturday (Double-time in my company), giving you wonderful pictures, of your special day. In order to do that, someone would need to spend at least one other day processing the images & compiling them on a disc. You seem to think that it's just a matter of taking a few snaps & dropping them onto a CD.

    I've had to listen to so many women crying about the bad pictures they have from their wedding day. Like you, they tried to do it on the cheap. The first thing you need to do is to start showing some respect to the photography profession.

    Who knows what state the economy will be in by the summer of 2008, but there's no way you'd get me agreeing to €800 now.
    One thing is worth remembering though, you get what you pay for.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6 traceyf


    City-Exile wrote: »
    C'mere traceyf, you're the one who is sounding greedy!
    You expect someone to spend a Saturday (Double-time in my company), giving you wonderful pictures, of your special day. In order to do that, someone would need to spend at least one other day processing the images & compiling them on a disc. You seem to think that it's just a matter of taking a few snaps & dropping them onto a CD.

    I've had to listen to so many women crying about the bad pictures they have from their wedding day. Like you, they tried to do it on the cheap. The first thing you need to do is to start showing some respect to the photography profession.

    Who knows what state the economy will be in by the summer of 2008, but there's no way you'd get me agreeing to €800 now.
    One thing is worth remembering though, you get what you pay for.

    Get off your high horse!
    And stop being a drama queen! I don’t know were you dreamt up the fact that I was at all dis-respecting photographers when its them who make the day special ! I was merely stating facts about what a rip off the whole wedding industry was! As everyone knows, its common sense! And who said it was a Saturday? With your double time? Its not a weekend at all! So get back into bed and get out on the right side so you will not try attack with words again.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,713 ✭✭✭DaireQuinlan


    :(

    why do these threads always follow this well worn course ? I figured it would take at LEAST another few replies before it got to this point :rolleyes:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6 traceyf


    i know i know its a shame - these sites are great for help but there is always someone who disrupts the balance and of course they have to get a telling off... i just ont get it ... if people are not going to offer advice or help in a way why even bother posting a comment in the first place ? don't get it i know i'd never anyways


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,624 ✭✭✭✭Fajitas!


    If you've found someone willing to do it for 800, and you're happy with exactly what they're giving you, and what their previous work is like, then go for it - Book book book!

    While I know you're thinking paying 1600 or whatever for a wedding is an incredible expense, but trust me, a lot goes into it, more than you would imagine. The day itself is only half of the work, 2 to 3 days can be spent processing the images. While I don't have a problem with giving CD's myself (in fact, it's generally what I include, and work up from there). You've also got to bear in mind the stress of the day, and the fact that you're paying a photographer to NOT get it wrong.

    But, as I said, if you're happy with previous work, go for the chap for 800, defo. You won't be finding much cheaper.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,547 ✭✭✭City-Exile


    Any interested photographers now have a clear view of the person they will be dealing with. You have to ask yourself if the money is worth the grief.

    As a photographer, it would be in your best interest to draft up a contract.
    Plenty people on here to give you advice about how to cover yourself.
    Good luck to whomever takes up the challenge.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,713 ✭✭✭DaireQuinlan


    traceyf wrote: »
    i know i know its a shame - these sites are great for help but there is always someone who disrupts the balance and of course they have to get a telling off... i just ont get it ... if people are not going to offer advice or help in a way why even bother posting a comment in the first place ? don't get it i know i'd never anyways

    I was actually referring, in my post, to your reply, not city-exiles :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,497 ✭✭✭✭Dragan


    Tactical wrote: »
    eh? For E500 for about 2 days work:confused: You're kidding right?

    Even the guys and gals doing it semi-pro wouldn't usually charge less than E800 (inc album + 24 shots)

    Nope, was simply thinking if 5 people can be booked for a weekend in 2010 then it must be fairly busy work. Not sure if i could survive the samey nature of it though.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,497 ✭✭✭✭Dragan


    traceyf wrote: »
    i know i know its a shame - these sites are great for help but there is always someone who disrupts the balance and of course they have to get a telling off... i just ont get it ... if people are not going to offer advice or help in a way why even bother posting a comment in the first place ? don't get it i know i'd never anyways

    It is not your place to decide if anyone needs a telling off or not. If you have an issue with a post then report it.

    If you are now asking yourself how do i report a post it is the little red symbol of an exclamation mark surrounded by a red triangle to the bottom left of posts.

    City Exile's post was completely valid from what i can see. You will get what you pay for at the end of the day.

    Dragan
    Moderator.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,219 ✭✭✭Calina


    I sense agro. I can do without agro on this board please.

    OP, you are asking a lot here. You are asking for a professional wedding photography job done on a fairly limited budget and you are expecting the sun the moon and the stars for that budget. Oh and you want someone with a portfolio but who needs the work and will do the shoestring job. It does not work that way.

    Organising weddings is hard work; stressful. It sounds to me like you have budgetary issues but instead of setting priorities for what you really want, you want it all on the cheap, for want of a better term. If you come onto a board which is peopled by who actually know a little bit about what they are doing, abusing them is not really kosher.

    This thread is being locked. I see no productive output from it from this point on.


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