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  • 13-09-2008 2:32pm
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    Registered Users Posts: 136 ✭✭


    Where is the best place to find the latest news re freesat , free to air , freeveiw. Also a laymans explanation of each of these systems ,an unbiased one as it seems a lot of those who contribute have vested intrests
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  • Registered Users Posts: 32,417 ✭✭✭✭watty


    Freesat: UK BBC/ITV software/brand platform that uses same TV feeds as UK Free To Air and signals that work on a Sky Digibox without a Subscription. (ITVHD is a bit weird, but is only a few hours a week and only via interactive on Freesat).

    Free to Air (FTA)
    . Any freely available Satellite signal from any satellite. Also includes Analogue traditional TV and freely available Digital Terrestrial TV. Sky Digiboxes really only work well with FTA from one Satellite, 28.2E

    FTV, or Free To View: Used to include all UK main channels, but now only "five"'s channels. Exists in Switzerland, Netherlands etc. Absolutely needs a viewing card and won't work on FTA or Freesat. Sky rebranded this "Freesat from Sky" after BBC & ITV pulled out.


    Freeview
    is the UK terrestrial Digital System brand name. Topup TV is payTv that uses a viewing card on the same system.

    There is no Irish FTA satellite, FTV or any kind of Digital Broadcast system till the Irish DTT launches publicly in 2009. The Irish DTT will be in two parts:
    1) RTE provided Free To Air Digital Terrestrial (maybe 6 to 8 channels, initially RTE1, RTE2, TG3 and TG4)
    2) Boxer TV pay TV channels requiring a viewing card.

    UK freeview (DTT) equipment won't work on the irish system which has some test transmissions on some transmitters since at least August 2008 (there was an earlier political trial).

    Virtually no-one that contributes here has a vested interest other than wanting to be able to receive a service. Some of us have strong opinions and of course as this is a public forum anything needs taken with a pinch of salt, posters vary in reliability. You don't get totally accurate and impartial on Web 2.0 :)

    Commercial pimping and shilling is stamped on very hard on boards.ie

    This is the best place for IRISH viewpoint. For an exclusively UK view (with a lot more celeb sillyness at times) go http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/satellite/news/ and http://www.mediauk.com/

    The regulars here have been contributing 6 or 7 years and to ICDG before that. Many are involved in installing or other Industry aspects or have various trade/industry contacts, though some info can't be given in advance of public release, i.e. the UPC Digital TV and Digiweb Broadband / Phone combo offer. The more inside info you know the less you can post about it. :)

    There are about 22 satellites you can receive in Ireland, most with some FTA channels, giving over 3500 FTA TV and over 2000 FTA radio. A normal dish setup can only "see" one Satellite.
    www.lyngsat.com is best site for GENERAL world wide satellite information. The "Footprints" of the satellites between about 42E and 45W indicate if it can be received and what size of dish is needed. There are many, many more Pay TV channels (Subscription mandatory, any other solution is criminal in EU and Ireland).


  • Registered Users Posts: 32,417 ✭✭✭✭watty


    ubeonek wrote: »
    Where is the best place to find the latest news re freesat , free to air , freeveiw. Also a laymans explanation of each of these systems ,an unbiased one as it seems a lot of those who contribute have vested intrests

    Welcome to these forums and *DO* read the stickie rules that are enforced fiercely. Especially regarding personal abuse. We roast trolls.


    See also the ICDG wiki in my signature.


  • Registered Users Posts: 136 ✭✭ubeonek


    Given the competion Sky must be under it would be foolish to assume it does not try to subvert cost free alternatives .I am sorry if I offended the righteous.


  • Registered Users Posts: 32,417 ✭✭✭✭watty


    Don't worry we have a Witchfinder General* who captures and burns people that use the forums to promote pay TV/Sky. The installers that post here prefer installing FTA systems actually as the pay is better and they can customise it to the client requirements.

    A lot of posts are how to get lots of legitmate TV without paying Sky or UPC :)

    The "Foreign Satellite" forum is really came into existence due to people looking for foreign satellite alternatives to Sky for Football. Legitimate alternatives (perhaps not in English) exist at lower subscription costs.

    There have been allegations regarding the source of funding and technology to crack viewing card systems, that curiously Sky does not use. Sky uses NDS's Videoguard.

    NDS, Sky, FoxNews, News International etc are all related Murdoch companies. We make no allegation, I'm only reporting allegations that have been made. Canal+ settled their court action against NDS with no admission of blame nor proof of allegations.


    (* a historic humorous reference with no slight intended to Wiccans)


  • Registered Users Posts: 136 ✭✭ubeonek


    Are you a computer on the loose or ateam of people .How one human can have so much information isbeyond belief ,keep up the good work. Ubeonek


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  • Registered Users Posts: 12,426 ✭✭✭✭TheDriver


    Welcome to the nerd base of satellite info, we love our topic!!


  • Registered Users Posts: 223 ✭✭micratoyota


    :pac:
    TheDriver wrote: »
    Welcome to the nerd base of satellite info, we love our topic!!
    :)HI My Daughter has Sky basic package in her front room but the children only want to watch Kids programms. In her back room she has a tv point and the chap that installed her sky said that she should get a "magic" eye for that room, but I believe she could only watch whats on in the front room. Now, if she bought a second hand sky box and remote (cash converters€60) could she plug that into the tv point and get separate sky programms. Also she had sky several years ago and still has the old dish up on her roof while the new sky dish is at the side of her house. Can anyone see a solution. She lives in Cork City. (no man in her life)


  • Moderators, Regional North West Moderators Posts: 19,103 Mod ✭✭✭✭byte
    byte


    :pac:
    :)HI My Daughter has Sky basic package in her front room but the children only want to watch Kids programms. In her back room she has a tv point and the chap that installed her sky said that she should get a "magic" eye for that room, but I believe she could only watch whats on in the front room. Now, if she bought a second hand sky box and remote (cash converters€60) could she plug that into the tv point and get separate sky programms. Also she had sky several years ago and still has the old dish up on her roof while the new sky dish is at the side of her house. Can anyone see a solution. She lives in Cork City. (no man in her life)
    Well, she has a few options.

    Sky Multiroom - she'd get a second Skybox from Sky, and a duplicate subscription card, so the same channels would be available on both boxes. Downside is telephone line needs to be connected to both boxes, and an extra €15 monthly fee for Multiroom.

    Free to air box (or Skybox without card) - it'll give free channels, so the kids would have access to channels like CBBC, CBeebies, CITV and maybe a few others. However, channels like Disney, Nick or Cartoon Network channels wouldn't be available.


  • Registered Users Posts: 223 ✭✭micratoyota


    byte wrote: »
    Well, she has a few options.

    Sky Multiroom - she'd get a second Skybox from Sky, and a duplicate subscription card, so the same channels would be available on both boxes. Downside is telephone line needs to be connected to both boxes, and an extra €15 monthly fee for Multiroom.

    Free to air box (or Skybox without card) - it'll give free channels, so the kids would have access to channels like CBBC, CBeebies, CITV and maybe a few others. However, channels like Disney, Nick or Cartoon Network channels wouldn't be available.
    She does'nt want any more expensises so a skybox without card would be her answer but will she get reception by just putting a cable into the tv socket or does she have to get someone to go up into her attic to make a connection or what???


  • Moderators, Regional North West Moderators Posts: 19,103 Mod ✭✭✭✭byte
    byte


    She'd need the second box wired directly to the dish outside. The dish, in turn, would need a quad LNB fitted to allow for extra connections (assuming she doesn't have one already).


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