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Civil servant told to remove GAA flag from car

  • 12-09-2008 11:26am
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 156 ✭✭


    What is People Opinions on this. Maybe It should be Moved to a different forum But I will post it here.

    http://www.breakingnews.ie/ireland/mhqlqlmhauau/

    I think its a Disgrace that she had to remove th flag.
    (Not trying to get into a political Discussion here about the situation in Northern Ireland but may end up that way) but at the end of the Day it was the Co Tyrone flag she had up. Anybody from County Tyrone should be allowed to fly the Flag if they wish. It political Correctness gone wrong if you ask me. But If anyone has an opinion and a valid reason for this action I would like to hear it.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,166 ✭✭✭✭Zzippy


    PC taken too far, downright silly. Its not like it was a Union Jack or a Tricolour...
    What next, "take that jacket off cos it has a Linfield crest on it"? Or "sorry you cant wear that Ulster rugby scarf anymore"!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,269 ✭✭✭cabrwab


    Wow crazy but i suppose need to keep the peace up there!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,913 ✭✭✭Danno


    Stupidity of the highest order.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 255 ✭✭oh well


    imagine if person was wearing a GAA or rugby jersey would they have to take it off??????


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,370 ✭✭✭GAAman


    Zzippy wrote: »
    PC taken too far, downright silly. Its not like it was a Union Jack or a Tricolour...
    What next, "take that jacket off cos it has a Linfield crest on it"? Or "sorry you cant wear that Ulster rugby scarf anymore"!
    I can tell you my friend from livin up here the last three years that if it had of been the other way around the person would not have had to remove it and i have seen this first hand
    cabrwab wrote: »
    Wow crazy but i suppose need to keep the peace up there!
    It is nothin to do with keepin the peace i reckon from experience it was a bitter protestant again just from my experience being in various countys up here
    oh well wrote: »
    imagine if person was wearing a GAA or rugby jersey would they have to take it off??????
    In one college (tec) i know of up here in derry you are not allowed any sports top i was kicked out returning a video camera cos i wore my Dublin jersey not knowing about it


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,676 ✭✭✭✭smashey


    Welcome to the twisted world that is Northern Ireland. The incident in question took place in Strabane at the dole office. Further down the road, at the border with Lifford there are five sculptures known as "Let the dance begin", or known locally as the Tinneys. :D Anyway, these have been kitted out with full Tyrone strips (they are each 18' tall) including boots and look really well. That is unless you happen to be a certain local Unionist politician who is up in arms about it as he maintains they are public property and should not be dressed in such a way as to cause offence to any side of the community. :mad: Why then doesn't he demand that the Union Jacks, King Billy flags, Northern Ireland flags, Scottish Saltires and Israeli flags be removed from every lamppost in Bready, Donemana, Magheramason, Newbuildings and Castlederg (his home town)?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,218 ✭✭✭bobbysands81


    cabrwab wrote: »
    Wow crazy but i suppose need to keep the peace up there!

    Terrible post.

    What is it about a GAA flag on a car that would incite somebody to violence?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,676 ✭✭✭✭smashey


    Terrible post.

    What is it about a GAA flag on a car that would incite somebody to violence?
    Nobody mentioned violence.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 153 ✭✭RSF Cill Dara


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    A MEMBER of staff at the Social Security Offices in Strabane has been told to remove a Tyrone GAA flag from her car after a complaint was received.
    The employee was asked to remove the red and white flag on Wednesday after the show of support was deemed offensive.

    A spokesperson for the the Department of Health and Social Services confirmed the complaint was made after the presence of the vehicle at the Strabane jobs and benefits office car park.

    "To ensure that the Social Security Agency fully complies with policies in terms of creating a neutral and harmonious working environment, the member of staff was requested to remove this item," she said.

    "This request was complied with and no further action was taken."

    Tyrone face Kerry in the All-Ireland final on Sunday 21 September

    http://www.newsletter.co.uk/3425/Civil-servant-forced-to-remove.4487056.jp


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 153 ✭✭RSF Cill Dara


    And they call this a normal society. Disgrace. Yet the jobs and benefits office can closed over the 12th of July to allow the orangemen to march, hardly a neutral working environment.

    The GAA has no religious bigotry attached to it so how do they think that a GAA flag goes against the 'neutral and harmonious working environment'.
    Yet another example of discrimination in the occupied 6


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 90 ✭✭news for you


    Kinda ironic - the above poster complaining about the absence of a normal society while glorifying the IRA whose goals included making Northern Ireland an unworkable state.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 43,311 ✭✭✭✭K-9


    And they call this a normal society. Disgrace. Yet the jobs and benefits office can closed over the 12th of July to allow the orangemen to march, hardly a neutral working environment.

    The GAA has no religious bigotry attached to it so how do they think that a GAA flag goes against the 'neutral and harmonious working environment'.
    Yet another example of discrimination in the occupied 6

    Unfortunately some do not like the playing of the National Anthem before GAA Matches, grounds being named after "terrorists", matches and tournaments being held in memory of "terrorists" and commemoration of the Hunger strikes.

    I mightn't see that as political etc., some do! That's life!

    Mad Men's Don Draper : What you call love was invented by guys like me, to sell nylons.



  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,062 ✭✭✭walrusgumble


    Kinda ironic - the above poster complaining about the absence of a normal society while glorifying the IRA whose goals included making Northern Ireland an unworkable state.

    in those days which group of people ni was really workable for though?why do you think the ira actually got what ever support/tolerance they did? cant see how the state could effectively work in westminister, could you? where many unionists into devolution? i doubt any history lesson is needed here? anyway we shouldn't get into all this crack.

    i still do not see how it was offensive. if belfast harelequinns can coperate with st brigids of belfast why cant people, particularily those who only a skip over a bridge to the "republic" can't display some county pride, is ridiculous. the whole county should be buzzing. i suppose people of tyrone wouldn't be allowed to decorate the massive sculture on the donegal side of the town then. how can displaying a seemingly innocent flag cause problems? does the authorities not realise that they now also represent not just "their people"


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 90 ✭✭news for you


    in those days which group of people ni was really workable for though?why do you think the ira actually got what ever support/tolerance they did? cant see how the state could effectively work in westminister, could you? where many unionists into devolution? i doubt any history lesson is needed here? anyway we shouldn't get into all this crack.

    I think you're getting the SDLP (John Hume et al) and the Provisional IRA mixed up. The IRA didn't kill people in an effort to share power at Stormont. Up until I was about 15, I supported Sinn Fein and the like (I'm a republican/nationalist/whatever from County Tyrone). Then I actually did some reading about the whole thing (not, you know, Gerry Adams' autobiographies), and have grown to dislike the IRA etc. By the way, I don't actually support the SDLP either. I currently support none of the political parties up north.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 43,311 ✭✭✭✭K-9


    i still do not see how it was offensive. if belfast harelequinns can coperate with st brigids of belfast why cant people, particularily those who only a skip over a bridge to the "republic" can't display some county pride, is ridiculous. the whole county should be buzzing.

    Indeed, the way forward, Rugby being played in GAA schools, GAA being played in Rugby schools, this is what's going on at grassroots level.
    i suppose people of tyrone wouldn't be allowed to decorate the massive sculture on the donegal side of the town then. how can displaying a seemingly innocent flag cause problems? does the authorities not realise that they now also represent not just "their people"

    I agree. Maybe when somebody can display a Linfield or Ulster flag in Strabane with no complaints, I'll agree even more! ;)

    Mad Men's Don Draper : What you call love was invented by guys like me, to sell nylons.



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 153 ✭✭RSF Cill Dara


    Kinda ironic - the above poster complaining about the absence of a normal society while glorifying the IRA whose goals included making Northern Ireland an unworkable state.
    unworkable state? how so?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 153 ✭✭RSF Cill Dara


    Seanies32 wrote: »
    Unfortunately some do not like the playing of the National Anthem before GAA Matches, grounds being named after "terrorists", matches and tournaments being held in memory of "terrorists" and commemoration of the Hunger strikes.

    I mightn't see that as political etc., some do! That's life!

    terrorists ? give me an example?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 43,311 ✭✭✭✭K-9


    terrorists ? give me an example?

    You are asking the wrong person, hence the inverted commas! :pac:

    Mad Men's Don Draper : What you call love was invented by guys like me, to sell nylons.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,729 ✭✭✭Pride Fighter


    It seems ridiculous IMO.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,316 ✭✭✭✭the_syco


    Seanies32 wrote: »
    You are asking the wrong person, hence the inverted commas! :pac:
    If you cannot name these terrorists you speak of, don't call them terrorists.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,729 ✭✭✭Pride Fighter


    terrorists ? give me an example?

    Roger Casement is probably a terrorist in Unionist eyes, even though he was a knight of the realm. Casement Park is therefore named after a 'terrorist'.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 43,311 ✭✭✭✭K-9


    the_syco wrote: »
    If you cannot name these terrorists you speak of, don't call them terrorists.

    Eh, is it not getting through, I mightn't see them as terrorists, other do.

    There was a match to commemorate Aidan McAnaespies murder last year.
    I see his death as murder.

    Others don't! That's the point!

    Anyway, I look forward to seeing Rangers flags on civil servants cars in the Bogside or Strabane with no complaints!

    Mad Men's Don Draper : What you call love was invented by guys like me, to sell nylons.



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 90 ✭✭news for you


    unworkable state? how so?

    The IRA sought to cause Northern Ireland to fail economically by bombing the crap out of commerical businesses etc. Rightly or wrongly they didn't give a crap about powersharing until John Hume's secret talks with Gerry Adams (who had realised that the whole thing was doomed to fail i.e. achieving United Ireland via a military campaign).

    You probably think the Civil Rights Movement was controlled by Sinn Fein as well! Ironic that the person who wrongly thought this in the first case was Ian Paisley!

    Sinn Fein are a very revisionist party.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 90 ✭✭news for you


    Roger Casement is probably a terrorist in Unionist eyes, even though he was a knight of the realm. Casement Park is therefore named after a 'terrorist'.

    The problem is more to do with, for example, the club in Derry named after a Hunger Striker (I forget his name). I can understand why Unionists can be uncomfortable with that, though I can't see why anyone would be offended by a Tyrone flag.

    Seanie, pretty much everyone of any persuasion sees Aidan McEnespie's death as murder.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,676 ✭✭✭✭smashey


    Threads merged and locked as we're getting wayyyyyy too political now.

    Also, mea culpa.


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