Sasha - Invol2ver

jonny68

Out today just listened to it, ill give it 2 out of 10,only one song that's only ok,the rest are plain boring prog/trance (not cheesy trance like Tiesto,etc) just plain boring in my opinion, really not into this style at all,Sasha is a classic case of a DJ who should stick to what he does best which is dj'ing, even then he's not half as good as what he was in the past, classics like the Renaissance and Northern Exposure albums were the business, this new effort is p*ss poor.

L1011

Might give this a listen, if you don't like it and call it trance I probably will :P

jonny68

MYOB wrote: »

Might give this a listen, if you don't like it and call it trance I probably will :P

well you do that mate, if your into prog/trance that is going nowhere and is just plain boring then bobs yer uncle:p

Jay D

Sasha was a good DJ. Doesn't give a damn now and doesn't dj much either, well here anyway, so good riddance.

franklyshocked

Is it just me or is Sasha lost the plot.

I thought the first involver was rubbish too. It doesn't go anywhere. You could put it on in the background if you wanted to have a snooze. Now if thats the report for the second involver album is bad then he needs to take a step back and ask himself what he's playin at.

He used to be good.

tman

Kind of enjoyed the recent set he put up on on his website... I'm assuming that Invol2ver is in the same vein as that?
http://www.djsasha.com/Thank_You_Mix_2008.zip

Ladytron remix at the end is quality, but then I love Ladytron:P

jonny68

franklyshocked wrote: »

Is it just me or is Sasha lost the plot.

I thought the first involver was rubbish too. It doesn't go anywhere. You could put it on in the background if you wanted to have a snooze. Now if thats the report for the second involver album is bad then he needs to take a step back and ask himself what he's playin at.

He used to be good.

ditto

Anima

Just listened to it in its entirety and I agree, quite boring. Very clinical and bland.

franklyshocked

Anima wrote: »

Just listened to it in its entirety and I agree, quite boring. Very clinical and bland.

I hear he's using his own software (A cross between Live and traktor) and a control device called a maven, that he designed.
He's trying top do to trance what richie hawtin did to techno.

He's stripped out the individual loops and track elements so he can play and control them as he likes.

Unfortunately if you're a boring fart Like old sasha that means you can also cut the character and appeal out of the track, while adding insanely long build ups and breakdowns that really lead you nowhere.

copeyhagen

ill grab this later and see what its like. i like the few involv2eredits e has throw into his mixes last few months.

ladytron - destroy(sasha involv2er edit) is a quality tune alright.

when him and diggers go back to back mixing in a gig like done in the states and canada earlier this year, how do they mix.

i presume sasha doesnt go back to cds or vinyl? so does diggers use ableton with him.

i thought with the nature of ableton was that it was near impossible to do that sort of thing

franklyshocked

copeyhagen wrote: »

ill grab this later and see what its like. i like the few involv2eredits e has throw into his mixes last few months.

ladytron - destroy(sasha involv2er edit) is a quality tune alright.

when him and diggers go back to back mixing in a gig like done in the states and canada earlier this year, how do they mix.

i presume sasha doesnt go back to cds or vinyl? so does diggers use ableton with him.

i thought with the nature of ableton was that it was near impossible to do that sort of thing

I'm sure he's playing off CD when He's back to back with digweed, but There's no reason he couldn't use a re-wire setup to control Ableton either.
Its an extremely flexible piece of kit.

Zascar

I'm not much of a sasha fan really, might give this a listen later, but a quick search on the net seems that it's got some pretty good reviews! Then again I sometimes feel DJ's like this have a following who will always love their releases no matter what...

I do this it's pretty cool how he has remixed every track to his liking in advance to mould this album into what he wants it to be... Will give it a listen and see how it goes

jtsuited

slightly related -

did anyone hear digweed's mix on the front of djmag this month (think it's djmag)?

it's probably the worst music I've ever heard.

Horrible.

seannash

franklyshocked wrote: »

I'm sure he's playing off CD when He's back to back with digweed, but There's no reason he couldn't use a re-wire setup to control Ableton either.
Its an extremely flexible piece of kit.

you can manually beatmatch with ableton using the nudge buttons and turning quantization off for when you "throw" the track
as for digweed mixing into ableton,ableton will be routed into a channel and digweed will just beatmatch to sashas last tune and do any eq work on the channel,its no different to a cdj playing on that channel.
that being said ive no clue what there at because frankly there ****ing ****.:D

jonny68

copeyhagen wrote: »

ill grab this later and see what its like. i like the few involv2eredits e has throw into his mixes last few months.

ladytron - destroy(sasha involv2er edit) is a quality tune alright.

when him and diggers go back to back mixing in a gig like done in the states and canada earlier this year, how do they mix.

i presume sasha doesnt go back to cds or vinyl? so does diggers use ableton with him.

i thought with the nature of ableton was that it was near impossible to do that sort of thing

ladytron - destroy(sasha involv2er edit) isa the only decent tune on it, the rest are brutal.

jonny68

Zascar wrote: »

I'm not much of a sasha fan really, might give this a listen later, but a quick search on the net seems that it's got some pretty good reviews! Then again I sometimes feel DJ's like this have a following who will always love their releases no matter what...

I do this it's pretty cool how he has remixed every track to his liking in advance to mould this album into what he wants it to be... Will give it a listen and see how it goes

Your right there mate, im not like that though, ive always been a massive Carl Cox fan but ill be the first to admit asides from a few tunes he produced im not overly into his music, his dj'ing however has been consistenly brilliant since the early 1990's.

Fintomiginto

Sasha and digweed are absoulute and utter cack. I absolutely love all of gthere renaissance, northern exposures and all sashas old mixes from shelleys and chuff chuffs and the like but somewhere in the late 90's the boys lost there way and have remained in no-mans land ever since. I seen sasha in lovebox last year and it was one of the most disappointing sets i've ever heard, monotonous averageness. I actually get very angry and bitter when I listen to some of sashas old mixes. Why the **** did you change so much!!! What ****ing happened to ya!!!!! AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh:mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad:

Stab*City

Fintomiginto wrote: »

Why the **** did you change so much!!! What ****ing happened to ya!!!!! AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh:mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad:

he didnt change, the music progressed as the title suggests.. sasha has been my fav dj for some 16 years while i will admit that his sound did go through a bit of a soul searching period a few years back hence fundicion.. but for you guys to say this album is completly cack is mad.. firstly its not just sasha at the controls its also spooky and other production engineers..
so to say that this is a dj sasha mix is slightly nieve.. this is part artist album part dj mix part education on where the progressive scene is heading.. i mean if you want to hear techno listen to carl cax or ritchie hawtin.. but if your into prog like i am this album is the direction sasha is pushing progressive house like he has done so many times before.. i remember when northern exposeure 1 first came out and people where saying the same things u guys are now.. dont get me wrong this album aint no exposure but it is state of the art prog house.. my friends are the same as you guys whinging about all sasha and digweeds old work.. "bring back exposure" i have heard many a time.. those albums were timeless and will never be equaled.. but i think this latest effort in a society where music consumption is at a crazy pace is actually quite good considering all the run of the mill dance tracks that have come and gone recently.. plus this mix id say is more aimed at the american scene where sasha and digweed spend most there time now.. i mean just cuz u say u couold fall asleep to it dont mean the next guy will.. long live sasha, digweed & progressive house..

L1011

jonny68 wrote: »

well you do that mate, if your into prog/trance that is going nowhere and is just plain boring then bobs yer uncle:p

Didn't like it at all, as it happens....