Dboys and the RoHS

JonAnderton

Just noticed this on Airsoft Scotland

“Due to the newly enforced RoHS import regulations. We will no longer be importing D-Boys AEG's due to the lead and Chromium-6 content. They have refused to change their manufacturing process for the UK market. Jing Gong have however agreed to make us full metal M4 and M16 models which will be available at the end of September 2008. JG are by far the best quality ACM manufacturer anyway so we have lost only slightly to gain much more in the end”

As this is an EU directive, I guess the Republic will be complying. Does this mean the end for Dboys imports?. I recall one retailer mentioning JG M4’s coming in soon to replace the Dboys.

As I’m a bit ignorant to the RoHS and what it implies, can anyone who may have a better insight explain how this could affect us and more importantly, are their any health concerns with previous DBoys products.

RoHS on Wikipedia
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Restriction_of_Hazardous_Substances_Directive

Hivemind187

To be honest the Chromium and Lead content in most AEG's is reletively harmless unless you open the gear box, remove the gears, pop them in your mouth and chew vigorously.

The RoHS directives tend to err on the side of safety and in a few aspects are more a political move than a sound scientific one (ie keeping the eco-nutters happy while not inconveniencing ost folk too much).

JonAnderton

Thats what I was thinking, cheers...

So whats the state of play with importing them into Ireland? and will our retailers still be selling the AEG's and spare parts, etc

Hivemind187

Hopefully JG will switch to using steel and we'll all be very happy

JonAnderton

Here here...

weeder

long shot but id buy a steel one

i have a full metal dboys m4 reciever and casv fitten on my m4, oh noes ima die!

NakedDex

Oh ffs, nothings bloody sacred anymore. I'm been exposed to more liquid Cr6 in 30 seconds on any given work day than I'll ever be exposed to in hazardous form in an aeg in a lifetime of use. The sheer levels of it and lead in those alloys are minuscule. Unless you bought a crate of them, ground them all into a fine powder and inhaled every last gun, they're going to do shag all to you. Poxy PC, eco warrior, save the f***ing artichoke, health police ruining yet more items that could only kill someone by the most extreme and unimaginably difficult to attain situation possible.

If anyone dies from Cr6 or Pb poisoning from using an aeg, they've clearly done something immensely moronic, like enacting my little scenario above. In which case, it's Darwin's Law at work and the persons death should be celebrated as another moron leaving the world, rather than making us suffer because some jumped up intern wants to impress their boss and make a name for themselves, and in doing so, invoke a continent wide ban on one of the most popular starter rifles.

/rant.

Hivemind187

NakedDex wrote: »

save the f***ing artichoke

No, really - can I have this printed on a t-shirt?

rofling with great pleasure,

Hivemind.

Shiva

JonAnderton wrote: »

Thats what I was thinking, cheers...

So whats the state of play with importing them into Ireland? and will our retailers still be selling the AEG's and spare parts, etc

Well this one bloody well will.

Echo everything Dex says.

Anyway....I haven't seen any evidence of what a DBoys (or any other) AEG is composed of, and I doubt anyone else in this country has either.

As I think I mentioned before on here somewhere, JG are increasing prices across the board as they change their market focus. Now, I wouldnt dream of suggesting that a retailer might use that as an excuse to stop selling less expensive DBoys guns and substitute them with more expensive JG kit....

iceage

Wow....now theres a reaction! chemical or otherwise. Naked you really should lay off the caffeine man.;) I believe my compadre was asking out of interest as it seems there is a hold on them being brought into the UK. Also its not only the internals that are at issue, its the lead in the paint.... Chinese manufacturers have a happy knack of ignoring this, and continue to do so on a wide range of exports.

Masada

JG have announced that they will be producing their stuff in metal so combined with their superior internals its will be one hell of an AEG, but as tony said the prices will increase a little but as it is their the best value for money.,

Fallschirmjager

NakedDex wrote: »

Oh ffs, nothings bloody sacred anymore. I'm been exposed to more liquid Cr6 in 30 seconds on any given work day than I'll ever be exposed to in hazardous form in an aeg in a lifetime of use. The sheer levels of it and lead in those alloys are minuscule. Unless you bought a crate of them, ground them all into a fine powder and inhaled every last gun, they're going to do shag all to you. Poxy PC, eco warrior, save the f***ing artichoke, health police ruining yet more items that could only kill someone by the most extreme and unimaginably difficult to attain situation possible.

If anyone dies from Cr6 or Pb poisoning from using an aeg, they've clearly done something immensely moronic, like enacting my little scenario above. In which case, it's Darwin's Law at work and the persons death should be celebrated as another moron leaving the world, rather than making us suffer because some jumped up intern wants to impress their boss and make a name for themselves, and in doing so, invoke a continent wide ban on one of the most popular starter rifles.

/rant.

BAWHAHAHAHAH!!!! Dex get cookie for post of the day!!! yep more nappyism from the EU...ah yes all of Europes tax money at work....

defenderdude

iceage wrote: »

Also its not only the internals that are at issue, its the lead in the paint.... Chinese manufacturers have a happy knack of ignoring this, and continue to do so on a wide range of exports.

You are quite right in what you say but it's mostly the heavy metal content and subsequent chrome passivations on items such as gear boxes and other items used in the internals as opposed to the lead concentrations in the paint.

Any recent heavy metal issues from China have mainly concerned pigments such as lead chromate in childrens toys - I'm not saying this is ok; but these ingredients are used in bright pigments such as yellow,red,green... typically not the sort of colour you'd typically find on an AEG:D

iceage

I think you'll also find its used as a rust inhibitor in primers and certain base layers i.e. paint.

defenderdude

iceage wrote: »

I think you'll also find its used as a rust inhibitor in primers and certain base layers i.e. paint.

Really. Thanks for that.:p

iceage

I know....its spookey the stuff we all know, useless bits of drivel!!:D

defenderdude

:D:D:D

Could be worse - you could have spent the last 21 years formulating/manufacturing the shaggin stuff...:rolleyes: Only to have to watch it dry...:D:D:D:D

mcgovern

I thought RoHS was only an issue for export?
I work in a large manufacturing plant, and we still import non-ROHS complaint parts (more than ROHS compliant), we just can't ship them in orders to the EU or several other countries who also adhere to it.