Irish teacher from HELL

cailin_donn

OMG, not only does she speak to us as if we're 4 year olds, she also makes no sense in her notes. my notes for "Cearrbhach mac Cába" are as follows.

"The main character was a gambler. He carried a pack of cards. The neighbours helped his wife give birth. He met a stranger on the road, who was young and handsome. He was angry with God. He met an ugly, skeletal stranger. He was death. He was his sons godfather. God baptised the child."

That is IT. I have NO IDEA what's going on,does anyone have any good Irish sites links??:pac:

Fad

cailin_donn wrote: »

OMG, not only does she speak to us as if we're 4 year olds, she also makes no sense in her notes. my notes for "Cearrbhach mac Cába" are as follows.

"The main character was a gambler. He carried a pack of cards. The neighbours helped his wife give birth. He met a stranger on the road, who was young and handsome. He was angry with God. He met an ugly, skeletal stranger. He was death. He was his sons godfather. God baptised the child."

That is IT. I have NO IDEA what's going on,does anyone have any good Irish sites links??:pac:

While thats paraphrasing the story a bit, its not far off it

qz

LOL how's that for condensing your notes.

littlneutralone

I know the sting of a bad Irish teacher...stilted and fragmented notes being their weapon of choice..I just made Fiuntas 2 my friend. Didn't go memorising long paragraphs from it though. Just remember Irish is like a really ridiculously easy version of English, just that in another language :pac: The questions are standard, the concepts of the stories and poems are easy, and your own opinions and interpretations are fine, probably refreshing. You only need the vocabulary to express them in, which the adjective junkie that wrote Fiuntas will eagerly provide.

I never actually did find a good notes site, in fact I never found any site, just skoool.ie, which seems to just whittle down Fiuntas notes.

If you have answers or plans prepared for all paper and sample paper questions, you'll most likely have every angle to the poems and prose covered.


Don't envy anyone sitting the '09 Irish paper, people are going to have to study Cearrbhach again :pac:

leesmom

revise wise is excellent,only 8.95 aswell. i originally did the leaving in 2006 and am repeating this year,bought this book the other day an it summarises all the stories,films an poems and gives sample answers and good avise on letter writing,stories ,essays etc.
from what i remember of 2 years ago,this book seems pretty much the same as the notes i was given in the institute,although thats probably because my teacher wrote the book,its staright to the point,no bull****

KnifeWRENCH

Wow, those are pretty shocking notes alright! :eek:
Out of curiosity are you doing Higher or Ordinary?

Either way, it would probably be worth getting Dreimire if you haven't done so yet. I found the notes on the prose, and indeed all other aspects of the course, quite good.

There are some notes on Cearrbhach on skool.ie: http://www.skoool.ie/skoool/examcentre_sc.asp?id=3802
It's not much but it's a handy summary to have once you understand the story a little better.

Is your teacher really that bad? How are ye going to manage all the poetry and essays if she can't even teach ye An Cearrbhach?!

cailin_donn

littlneutralone- im sitting the 2010 paper, not '09, thank God!! If I was doing the Leaving this year.... oh I shudder thinking about it!:eek:

leesmom- ooh revisewise, I'd forgotten all about them!! my saviour!! I'm getting that tomorrow for DEFINETE

square_igloo- I'm doing Higher, sorry I should've mentioned it!! Although I'm seriously thinking about getting Grinds after Easter or something maybe... And yes, she's terrible. She doesn't do any grammar at ALL :eek: all I can say is thank God for the Gaeltacht, I'm holding onto the notes I got there for dear LIFE

The Walsho

Is she hot?

DanOB

The Walsho wrote: »

Is she hot?

my thoughts exactly

challengemaster

In fairness, it's a pretty stupid story anyway.. that is (a quite condensed) summary of it.. but you're right, doesn't make all that much sense. That said, the story didn't either...:pac:

phasers

My Irish teacher doesn't let us take down notes while she's speaking and doesn't let us write down translations. She'll read a poem in class and never explain it. We've done no oral or aural work and haven't even started an triail. I dropped down to ordinary level the other day after getting a B in higher level in the junior. One person can really ruin something for you, I'm off the language forever.

Sorry for the rant OP, I guess I was trying to say I feel your pain...

MathsManiac

I would strongly recommend "Smaointe! - Aistí don Ardteist (Ardleibhéal)" by Diarmaid Ó Tuama, (pub. C J Fallon) if you're looking for a good resource to help develop your essay-writing.

fh041205

phasers wrote: »

My Irish teacher doesn't let us take down notes while she's speaking and doesn't let us write down translations. She'll read a poem in class and never explain it. We've done no oral or aural work and haven't even started an triail. I dropped down to ordinary level the other day after getting a B in higher level in the junior. One person can really ruin something for you, I'm off the language forever.

Sorry for the rant OP, I guess I was trying to say I feel your pain...

LC is not a scratch on this great language. Its just a memory test forcing you to learn of reams of ridiculous poetry, non-sensical stories and random pockets of history. Your decision to move to pass is a great one IMO. I did the same just because of the workload and the crazy irrellevance of what I would have had to learn. IMO the subject which requires the most work for the LC is Irish even if you have a talent for it. But please don't let it put you off the language itself.

KeyLimePie

cailin_donn wrote: »

square_igloo- I'm doing Higher, sorry I should've mentioned it!! Although I'm seriously thinking about getting Grinds after Easter or something maybe... And yes, she's terrible. She doesn't do any grammar at ALL :eek: all I can say is thank God for the Gaeltacht, I'm holding onto the notes I got there for dear LIFE

the notes that the teacher gave you would get you an A1 in ordinary
and teachers don't teach irish grammar, it's a fact of life

if you REALLY want to know the grammar( and it's really easy too) go into a library and look for "Irish Grammar: A Basic Handbook" by Noel McGonagle
http://www.amazon.com/Irish-Grammar-Handbook-Noel-McGonagle/dp/0781806674
it's all you need if you wanna the grammar

TheJeanGenie

I had a teacher like that. Also my Irish was poor. Got a B in my junior but I literally just learned everything off. Anyway my LC teacher was the devil reborn and just barely skimmed over the information. Also despised me cause I hated the language and she knew it! But I stuck with it and got a C1 in higher level. Even tho it wasn't counted for my LC it is an achievement I'm proud of You should be okay if you've gone to the Gaeltacht and don't get grinds till you're closer to the actual leaving.

Davidius

Your Irish teacher should probably have added "The moral of the story is that good things only happen to bad people". At least that's what I got from it.

gaeilgegrinds

I'm here for any questions.

The Walsho

gaeilgegrinds wrote: »

I'm here for any questions.

Are you hot? :pac:

cailin_donn

The Walsho: if you would call an old woman in her late 50s, white hair, huge lovehndles and a red face hot, well then she's pretty hot. :pac: my teachers wierd... :(oh well...

phasers

My teacher's a witch. Honest to god, she always talks about them and once she started a sentence with "us witches" :pac:

Conor108

I've always found Irish teachers to be the worst.

TheJeanGenie

Conor108 wrote: »

I've always found Irish teachers to be the worst.

That's because they're fighting a losing battle

Gavin "shels"

Can anyone tell me what he used the 3 wishes to do in the story?

annabel

Hi I am a n Irish teacher and if it helps I have simplified Clare sa spéir and Cearrbhach An cearrbhach very complicated If I were you I would not concentrate heavily on it or Lig sin i Gcathu and concentrate on Fiche Bliain ag fás , An Bhean óg and Clare sa spéir , if you like I could Pm some of my notes for obvious reason can't say too much online annabel

annabel

The Cearrbhach used his three wishes for Bua Dochtuiri an Domhain ( To be best doctor in the world
Bua cearrbhaigh an Domhain ( To Be best gamler in the world)
aon duine a ghoideann ull ó chrann an chearrbhaigh beidh a lámh greamaithe don chrann

Anyone who took an apple from the gamblers tree would have their hand stuck to the tree .

hope this helps

sorry couln't put fadas in for some reason alt gr not working

happy_feet

my teacher is an absolute witch aswel. the way she goes on it absolutely wrecks my head!!
on all the poems all she ever talks about is ''friotal'' and ''uaim'' and then she gives us a lc question and every1 gets it wrong and she goes mad! :

oh and i feel your pain about an cearrbhach. i was out for the week we did that and i missed the whole thing

GA361

cailin_donn wrote: »

OMG,she speak to us as if we're 4 year olds, :pac:

You think thats treating you like a 4 year old.
Our teacher gave us out 3 pages of pictures as our notaí on Cearrbhach.
Daah, We isn't the smartiest class:p

happy_feet

actually now that we are talking about cearrbhach i need help coz i missed some of it and i have a test!

what are the tricks he plays on death? just a quick explanation in english so i dont fail if anyone can help

macroman

Mine knocks us down at every opportunity and leaves nothing to the imagination...:(

RALL!

I have a terrible Irish teacher:rolleyes:

KnifeWRENCH

GA361 wrote: »

You think thats treating you like a 4 year old.
Our teacher gave us out 3 pages of pictures as our notaí on Cearrbhach.
Daah, We isn't the smartiest class:p

That is one of the saddest things I have ever read.

Although I do love the mental image of someone in your class doing their exam and answering on An Cearrbhach with just drawings and no words!

GA361

square_igloo wrote: »

That is one of the saddest things I have ever read.

Although I do love the mental image of someone in your class doing their exam and answering on An Cearrbhach with just drawings and no words!

The thing is. . . someone probably will do that:D

Pigwidgeon

in the last week my teacher has decided to take a whole new teaching approach.
even though we haven't finished the course we have for some reason stopped and started revising. we have done no essay work, since 5th year we have written 1 essay which wasn't even graded. we have done tape once this year.
last week she decided to get us to do spider diagrams for all the exam poetry questions in 2008 for homework, then we spend the next class writing our answers on the blackboard.

for an triail all we have done is read and translated it. she got us to take down summary's of each scene and gave us 2 handouts and told us to learn them on the characters and past exam questions. that's all we've done for it and all we're going to do.

we haven't started stair na gaeilge yet. have done no comprehensions or oral work either. all we do is translate the notes in the book. we may be the lowest honours class but this is ridiculous, if i didn't need the points i would drop down to pass just to get out of that class.

G_R

i kno exactly how the OP feels

our irish teacher is possibly the worst teacher in the history of irish teachers everywhere.

he REFUSES to speak english in class...point blank REFUSES...even if we have no idea what the hell he is talking about...which is most of the time...before J.C. i was doing higher....changed school and went into his class and i had 2 drop to ordinary....i;ll be lucky if i even pass the L.C. at ord level....which i need for uni......

Pinkycharm

i had a teacher like this when i was doing my leaving cert! How did i get over it? I became an irish teacher- i now work in that same school and am giving grinds to her students- i had 5 move in to my class from hers!!!! do not drop down to pass if you are honours!! request to be moved to the other irish class!!